Posts by OrphanCrow

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The Blood Workbook - HLC handbook

by OrphanCrow in

this appears to be the latest hlc handbook (pdf download).

workbook to assist with conscience matters involving .

.. *image of body with heart and blood.... reference material for making informed decisions on matters of conscience.

OrphanCrow

darkspliver: What makes you think that this PDF is "the latest HLC handbook" ?

Because it contains all the information that an HLC person would use for making decisions about "conscience matters" and because it obviously isn't a 'regular' WT publication

And okay...so it might not be the "latest" in technical terms...but it is the latest one I have seen. 2013 isn't that long ago

I suspect that this is purely the work of an over-zealous person back in 2013 thinking they're being helpful by pulling together a few WT articles

Ah...so...like a school project.

Thanks for your input, but I am going to go with my suspicions on this one instead of your suspicions...no hard feelings

Did it occur to you that this "workbook" may very well be just that - a 'workbook' used to train the HLC guys? Maybe it isn't what they use directly with the JW patients...maybe this is one their training tools

But, then again...we may never know the source of this handbook, seeing as all that HLC stuff is so secret

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The Blood Workbook - HLC handbook

by OrphanCrow in

this appears to be the latest hlc handbook (pdf download).

workbook to assist with conscience matters involving .

.. *image of body with heart and blood.... reference material for making informed decisions on matters of conscience.

OrphanCrow

I lost some of that post...

If this is the handbook that the HLC uses in 'helping' a JW come to an informed decision, I can see why the JW father in the article that Lee Elder posted felt like he had been under 'undue influence'.

This book is a mixture of Watchtower directed 'medical/scientific' advice and religious myth and superstition.

A conscience matter indeed.

The WT has NO conscience. That matter needs to be addressed. They have blood on their hands

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The Blood Workbook - HLC handbook

by OrphanCrow in

this appears to be the latest hlc handbook (pdf download).

workbook to assist with conscience matters involving .

.. *image of body with heart and blood.... reference material for making informed decisions on matters of conscience.

OrphanCrow

This appears to be the latest HLC handbook (pdf download)

Workbook to Assist with Conscience Matters Involving . . .

*image of body with heart and blood...

Reference Material for Making Informed Decisions On Matters of Conscience

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Riding the Scarlet Colored Beast

by OrphanCrow in

the hypocrisy is astounding.

(both these links go to jw..org).

in this first link to the mother, we are educated as to what is the scarlet-colored beast of revelation chapter 17?.

OrphanCrow

Chook: ...could you imagine GB turning down a cheque of a million dollars from Catholic Church . Big Anthony Morris would personally deposit it( gift from Jah)

Huh. Maybe they are.

Maybe there is more to the WTS not turning over documents and making such a firm stance in court over child sex abuse than we know about

We do know that $$$ flowed the other way during the ARC. Applewhite, the Catholic expert hired by the WTS, did not come free

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A JW Father Learns about Blood

by Lee Elder in

this father contacted us a few months ago about his experience with the watchtower's blood policy, and how his daughter nearly died as a result of it.

hopefully, other jw parents can learn from this before the wt policy claims the life of their child.

the wts has very few meaningful interventions or "non blood alternatives" for anemia.

OrphanCrow

Crazyguy: WT sick and discusting this blood issue was the final staw for me, researched it myself after my wife almost needed a C section and what the hotpital liaison committee told me was quite startling !

The WT noblood propaganda is quite different than reality, isn't it?

And the WT wants the world to believe that the JW noblood choice "is a conscience matter". Pffft...sure it is. A conscience that has been fed a bunch of lies and half-truths

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JWs accused of pressuring Syrian refugees in Northern Greece to convert - so far, 40 have converted

by AndersonsInfo in

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friends

i just received the following link to a video where some claim that jws are pressuring syrian refugees in northern greece to convert.

fyi, i tried to locate the date of the video, but couldn't, so don't know if it is recent or not.

https://www.facebook.com/ajplusenglish/videos/vb.407570359384477/791011651040344/?type=2&theater.

OrphanCrow

There you go.

40 more people in Greece who will take an anti-government stand.

And keep the bloodless clinics busy

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where have the demons gone?

by aboveusonlysky in

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friends

does anybody remember some of the sensational demon stories jw's would tell back in the day?

i was a kid in the early 80's and i remember a few times hearing of people having real life encounters with demons.

for example, one sister claimed that before she became a jdub she would regularly talk to demons and they would even fix stuff like her washing machine!

OrphanCrow

Hiemere: ...I mentioned in my previous post that Witnesses turn all stories about ghosts into stories about demons.

Yes. You have made a critical point.

In JW land, a ghost is a demon. Demons pretend to be dead people. Other belief systems accept the ghost theory that ghosts are departed people and not demons having fun with humans. In most cultures, ghosts are ghosts...dead people's spirits floating around.

JWs don't believe in the spirit of a person having agency...the spirit dies in death. Therefore...demons

I don't disagree with you at all, Hiemere. It is a big picture thing...lots going on to add to the JW culture of demons and a devil.

I think the demon culture of the JWs is why the WTS has a reasonable success rate with indigenous cultures. Most traditional forms of diety worship have active demonology as part of their belief systems. It is strange, though, how the WTS can successfully put the ancestors to sleep and yet keep the demons alive

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where have the demons gone?

by aboveusonlysky in

jw
friends

does anybody remember some of the sensational demon stories jw's would tell back in the day?

i was a kid in the early 80's and i remember a few times hearing of people having real life encounters with demons.

for example, one sister claimed that before she became a jdub she would regularly talk to demons and they would even fix stuff like her washing machine!

OrphanCrow

LUNE: ...and is cleaner than a nun's knickers.

Only if she doesn't have a bad habit...

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where have the demons gone?

by aboveusonlysky in

jw
friends

does anybody remember some of the sensational demon stories jw's would tell back in the day?

i was a kid in the early 80's and i remember a few times hearing of people having real life encounters with demons.

for example, one sister claimed that before she became a jdub she would regularly talk to demons and they would even fix stuff like her washing machine!

OrphanCrow

I realize that the history of the JW religion isn't something that most current JWs are concerned with...but how can we forget

C. J. Woodworth: The Demon Possessed Editor of The Golden Age

Notions of demon possession run deep in the JW cult.

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where have the demons gone?

by aboveusonlysky in

jw
friends

does anybody remember some of the sensational demon stories jw's would tell back in the day?

i was a kid in the early 80's and i remember a few times hearing of people having real life encounters with demons.

for example, one sister claimed that before she became a jdub she would regularly talk to demons and they would even fix stuff like her washing machine!

OrphanCrow

Hiemere, I think your hypothesis is upside down. The JWs have never needed demons stories and such to come in from the 'outside'. They have had plenty of material concerning demons and such right from the Mother's mouth - years and years of it

https://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/bible-teach/angels-and-demons-spirit-creatures/

People who want to serve Jehovah need to get rid of everything related to spiritism. That includes books, magazines, movies, posters, and music recordings that encourage the practice of spiritism and make it seem appealing and exciting. Included, too, are amulets or other items worn for protection against evil.