Posts by OrphanCrow

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I found my wifes new blood card

by Steel in

i would like to say i am not in and my wife is a marginal witness at best.

she doesn't say anything bad about the borg or live an amoral lifestyle.

she just doesn't read the bible, or even the tracts anymore and generally has no clue about anything biblical or doctorial related.. i found my wives new card yesterday.

OrphanCrow

Steel: Something I find kind of funny while researching the subject is there is an old blood card that goes into much more detail about rights and fractions and such.
It had a section about childbirth and mothers rights over the fetus and actually sited a Planned Parenthood ruling.
My jaw just dropped.
The only true religion sited a court case by the world biggest abortion provider just sited Planned Parent.

The legal precedent that refers to an unborn child as a fetus is really important to the WTS.

The reason for this was so that a pregnant JW woman could not be forced to have a blood transfusion on the grounds that she was endangering her unborn child. With the Planned Parenthood ruling, the WT lawyers could argue that she could die and not harm her baby...she was only killing a fetus. Even if the baby was full term.

To allow a "fetus" to die because of blood refusal was/is easier for a lawyer to argue than if the courts regarded that baby as an unborn child.

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Spain: A group of elder requires clarification to Ministry of Justice regarding sexual molestors

by sp74bb in

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letter sent today to the ministry of justice... .

spain bethel sent a letter recently last oct 3 interpreting that no elder or sm should request a certificate of sexual offenses as other churches or persons in contact with kids.

again jw.org interprets the law to their behalf.. a group of elders in madrid has sent this letter to ask clarification !!.

OrphanCrow

vidiot: Jeezus, after reading those two KM entries, I'm starting to think they actually don't believe their policies and actions are contributing to an environment that pedos thrive in.

Regardless of what they believe, it is obvious that they don't care

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BIG news Trump...His lewd conversation leaks.

by James Mixon in

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if he get pass this, america deserve him...... conversation 10 years ago..

OrphanCrow

DoC: What Trump said can be heard in any locker room at any gym or country club every day of the week. Yes, it's "juvenile" and "sexist", but it really is the way things are and the fact of whether you like it or not will not change it. My wife's comment was "Don't these people already know that all men are assholes?"

Not ALL men are assholes.

In fact, I have read several rebuttals written by male journalists who are appalled that a man would blatantly encourage sexual assault. They don't like being lumped into the same boat as Rump. Lots of men would not speak like that, ever.

It is more than juvenile or sexist. It is condoning illegal behavior.

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BIG news Trump...His lewd conversation leaks.

by James Mixon in

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if he get pass this, america deserve him...... conversation 10 years ago..

OrphanCrow

Sir82 :
Trump: "I sexually assault women and get away with it because I'm famous"
GOP: "We are shocked - shocked! to discover that our candidate is morally degenerate."
Hey, I'm thankful - whatever is bad for Trump is good for the country. I just can't wrap my head around that it is this which is imploding his campaign.

It sounds like a straw that broke the camel's back, doesn't it?

A little thing like sexual assault.

The difference between the "straw" and the other ignorant things that Rump has said...is that the "straw" is illegal. And, the "straw" affects 51% of all the other groups that Rump has insulted and it takes a slice of 51% of his own voters.

Sexual assault is more than just morally degenerate. It is illegal.

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FOLLOWING/WALKING BEHIND

by somebody in

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according to this publication published by none other than those who want to gain followers of themselves, christ assigned the preaching work to themselves and not jehovah's witnesses.. *** w07 4/1 pp.

24-25 loyal to christ and his faithful slave ***.

giving loyal support.

OrphanCrow

This is why WT doctrine makes my head hurt. It isn't logical at all.

The biblical verse they are using to say that "the other sheep" should follow "the anointed" is speaking about foreign/rival nations coming into subjection to Israel. The other nations did not worship Israel's god.

How does that apply to "the other sheep" who already worship the same god as "the anointed slave class and the Governing Body"? Are the "other sheep" to be viewed as rival nations? Are the "other sheep" in opposition to the anointed and the GB?

At what point did "the nation of Israel" only apply to the "anointed slave class and the GB"? Does the WT's replacement theology not apply to all JWs?

I am confused

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I found my wifes new blood card

by Steel in

i would like to say i am not in and my wife is a marginal witness at best.

she doesn't say anything bad about the borg or live an amoral lifestyle.

she just doesn't read the bible, or even the tracts anymore and generally has no clue about anything biblical or doctorial related.. i found my wives new card yesterday.

OrphanCrow

Steel: I am really pissed off right now.

No doubt. You have every right to be pissed.

Do you have children? If you do, your wife's decision (elder's decision, actually) has bearing on your child(ren's) welfare.

Very concerning. Glad to hear you are seeing a lawyer. This would be good to get legal advice on.

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Can Someone Explain To Me, Are The Org In Debt Or Rich?

by pale.emperor in

hi guys.. im aware of the orgs blatant hints to donate, donate, donate to the org, the sacking of bethel staff, selling of buildings, reducing mags and books, emphasis on digital rather than physical books etc which is obviously a money saver - but are the wt org in money difficulty?

because elsewhere on here and on youtube there's stories of the watchtower being mega rich, one even called it "a billion dollar organization".

and if there is any money in there, who's benefiting off it?

OrphanCrow

For all the concern and activity that has been undertaken with where and how the WTS invests their money, I think that is mostly a moot point. The WTS has money. They spend it on all sorts of things - translation offices, literacy programs in developing countries, maintaining a hospital network, carts...

What is the most telling is where the donations come from - the gifts to the WTS. Where does the WTS get their money? Who are the biggest donors? Where do those donors have their money invested?

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Can Someone Explain To Me, Are The Org In Debt Or Rich?

by pale.emperor in

hi guys.. im aware of the orgs blatant hints to donate, donate, donate to the org, the sacking of bethel staff, selling of buildings, reducing mags and books, emphasis on digital rather than physical books etc which is obviously a money saver - but are the wt org in money difficulty?

because elsewhere on here and on youtube there's stories of the watchtower being mega rich, one even called it "a billion dollar organization".

and if there is any money in there, who's benefiting off it?

OrphanCrow

Somebody has to pick up for the slack for when they lost Prince

Everybody has to chip in and make up for the loss of his donations. That may have been sizable

*to add - I think the most revealing and damning "list" that the WTS has is their list of donors. If a person could ever get their hands on a list of their biggest donors...who and how much...it would explain a LOT. Doctrinal twists and so much more

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Can Someone Explain To Me, Are The Org In Debt Or Rich?

by pale.emperor in

hi guys.. im aware of the orgs blatant hints to donate, donate, donate to the org, the sacking of bethel staff, selling of buildings, reducing mags and books, emphasis on digital rather than physical books etc which is obviously a money saver - but are the wt org in money difficulty?

because elsewhere on here and on youtube there's stories of the watchtower being mega rich, one even called it "a billion dollar organization".

and if there is any money in there, who's benefiting off it?

OrphanCrow

When I was looking at the Canadian charity site, I took a quick peek at the Mormons - the Latter Day Saints. I did some quick calculations - not sure if I had the right stats on membership...I think so. Anyways, those Mormons have donating down way better than the cheap Canadian JWs do.

If my figures and calculations were correct, the Mormons donate almost twice the amount per membership than the JWs do. In Canada, at least.

The Watch Tower Society has their work cut out for them.

And the Jehovah's Witnesses have to get over themselves - that "free ticket" that Russell promised you was pie in the sky. If you want to be a JW, it is gonna cost you.

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Can Someone Explain To Me, Are The Org In Debt Or Rich?

by pale.emperor in

hi guys.. im aware of the orgs blatant hints to donate, donate, donate to the org, the sacking of bethel staff, selling of buildings, reducing mags and books, emphasis on digital rather than physical books etc which is obviously a money saver - but are the wt org in money difficulty?

because elsewhere on here and on youtube there's stories of the watchtower being mega rich, one even called it "a billion dollar organization".

and if there is any money in there, who's benefiting off it?

OrphanCrow

People talk about how to take down the Watch Tower Society. It really is simple. You take down the industries and businesses that she has received money from over all these years. You go after the whore's johns. Stop the john trade.

The donations. The "gift$". The "favor$" given. From the big john$. The ones with money. Who get tax breaks and favors (propaganda, etc) from "donating".