hemosep – blood recycling system.
a blood recycling system, the hemosep cell savage, was developped at brightwake ltd. it is praised as costsaving and lifesaving device for jw who undertake major surgery.
one of the company's trading arms advancis surgical markets the device.
I am curious.
Does anybody know at what point the Hospital Information Services get a kickback from this company?
At what point in the distribution network is the HLC involved? This cell saver was trialed on Jehovah's Witness patients - that is an indication of HLC invovlement.
And...are there JWs who profit from this company? Are there JWs invested in Advantis Surgical and/or Brightwake? Does Advantis sponsor any of the JWs who are in the HLC network?
seen a few discussions asking if the wts are hurting for $$ or still sitting on a mountain of gold.. regardless of their child abuse legal fees and ongoing broadcasting for more dough, i believe they have piles and piles of cash.. talked with a diff'd accountant who sat in the accounting dept.
at the conventions for years.. a football stadium (or the like) costs them about $70 - 90,000 to rent for a 3 day dub show.
they take in $400,000 in donations from the r&f.
zappa: ...And this Bethel is now a major campus - it seems to be going balls to the wall there!
Otherwise the GB are just highly deluded and convinced of the imminence of the Big-BuggerUp ....or there is some strange "Third Force" factor at play ????
Makes total sense...on a couple of levels.
Blood politics being one
cult expert steven hassan analyzes the death of young canadian jw mother: https://freedomofmind.com/…/2016/10/21/a-watchtower-tragedy/.
Thanks for posting that link, Lee. Excellent article by a well known expert on cults.
This case is drawing a lot of attention. Facebook is pretty active.
I think that the Canadian setting is making a difference - Canada has a public health system so the public is naturally interested. Special treatments demanded by the JWs cost all of Canada extra and the treatment that Eloise did get was expensive. And we are a small country - she was everybody's neighbor.
The blood refusal deaths don't always get media coverage but this one is an example of how much collateral damage occurs when a JW patient enters a hospital with a no blood card. So many others impacted and traumatized. This death was like a physiological and emotional bomb going off that spread its ugly shrapnel everywhere - family, friends, medical staff...the whole country is feeling the pain and wondering why
So many people are horrified by this senseless death of a young mother who had been instilled with a blood phobia from birth.
one comment-giver during the rules study, remarked that ww1 was predicted by wt to arrive in 1914, despite the fact that everyone expected an era of unparalleled peace.. this was something continuously drilled into our heads - how peaceful everything was prior to ww1.. when you look at wt library under 'world war i' - "unexpected" - the results are all offline - there are no recent references ( unexpected: re 106; w92 5/1 4-5; yb87 124; w86 2/15 5; w86 11/1 6 ).
http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200276290.
the offline quotes are as follows:.
Rutherford was a Democrat in his early days:
http://jwdivorces.bravehost.com/rutherford.html
An unsuccessful Democrat. In true Rutherford fashion, he turned on socialism and took an oppositional stance to his former friends, now turned enemies once he was rejected by the Democrats.
one comment-giver during the rules study, remarked that ww1 was predicted by wt to arrive in 1914, despite the fact that everyone expected an era of unparalleled peace.. this was something continuously drilled into our heads - how peaceful everything was prior to ww1.. when you look at wt library under 'world war i' - "unexpected" - the results are all offline - there are no recent references ( unexpected: re 106; w92 5/1 4-5; yb87 124; w86 2/15 5; w86 11/1 6 ).
http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200276290.
the offline quotes are as follows:.
Wonder: Why did Rutherford later "hate"(?) Jews and when did he begin to write against Jews? One knows that Russels wrote in some books full of glorification for Zionism when he understood Zionism and resettling of the holy land as prophetic fullfillments that had to happen in the last days.
The years between the predicted date of 1925 and the beginning of Rutherford's new religion in 1931, the JWs, were years that saw over 75% of members leave the Bible Students.
Rutherford re-grouped, re-groomed financiers, and re-established his struggling publishing empire. His political alliances changed as his financial needs demanded it.
what do you think about these things.
it seems like a monumental waste of time and money, a pipe dream of the governing body based on wishful thinking.
this corporation is going down the tubes with these asshole deluded genius's calling the financial investment shot.. buying chemical dump property around the world to build their financial empire headquarters on while facing massive child molestation lawsuits now and many more in the future means it looking kind of bleak for these messed idiots running things.. http://jw-branchoffices.blogspot.com/p/watchtower-remote-translation-offices.html.
Wonder: Is there any public funding for this literisation work?
In some places, yes.
Not to mention that literacy programming is worth its weight in gold in political influence and image making. Awards and recognition from governments like Mexico and Zimbabwe. Alliances with UN organizations to make ease of passage in areas of 'need'. And so on...
And, as Sir says...a good "charitable" activity to fly under the tax radar
i just received the following message from a friend this morning.. barbara.
eloise dupuis, 27 years old, died at the hotel dieu hospital in lévis, quebec, canada, wednesday, october 12th.
she died because of her religious principles.
The comments are flying fast and thick on the CBC facebook page
Hot topic
Stephane: I bet they will say the coroner will have done a bad job. That he didn't truly cooperate with the HLC to understand fully everything that was involved. He is just a coroner, not a doctor, this case was too complicated for him to get it. He's hand in hand with the hospital doctors who probably lied and fabricated evidence, blah blah blah, Satan is behind this, blah blah blah, these are truly the last day, we must remain loyal to Jehovah. blah blah blah - I'll go fill a bucket of puke.
Well, the JWs can say what they like but a Canadian coroner might have a bit different standards than they do.
The coroner in this case is Luc Malouin. I couldn't find much about his qualifications or background other than he has investigated some significant cases.
I did find this which explains what to expect for Canadian coroner qualifications:
The provinces of Alberta,[7] Manitoba,[8] Nova Scotia[9] and Newfoundland and Labrador[10] have a Medical Examiner system, meaning that all death investigations are conducted by specialist physicians trained in Forensic Pathology, with the assistance of other medical and law enforcement personnel. All other provinces run on a coroner system. In Prince Edward Island, and Ontario, all coroners are, by law, physicians. In the other provinces and territories with a coroner system, namely British Columbia, Saskatchewan, Quebec, New Brunswick, Northwest Territories, Nunavut, and Yukon, coroners are not necessarily physicians but generally have legal, medical, or investigative backgrounds.
Of course there will be the true believers who will remain true believers in the face of whatever. But, there will also be those, both in the JWs and in the public, who will be waiting with great interest to discover what the Quebec coroner has to say
one comment-giver during the rules study, remarked that ww1 was predicted by wt to arrive in 1914, despite the fact that everyone expected an era of unparalleled peace.. this was something continuously drilled into our heads - how peaceful everything was prior to ww1.. when you look at wt library under 'world war i' - "unexpected" - the results are all offline - there are no recent references ( unexpected: re 106; w92 5/1 4-5; yb87 124; w86 2/15 5; w86 11/1 6 ).
http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200276290.
the offline quotes are as follows:.
This following Bible Student article, I think, is critical background to understanding why Charles Russell made his 1914 prediction and how his doctrine was embedded in political concerns of the time:
http://agsconsulting.com/articles/zionists.htm
Regarding the significant Land issue, Pastor Russell's position is reflected in a statement he made while Palestine was yet part of the Ottoman (Turkish) Empire. In 1911 he proclaimed:
"The message to them [Jews] now is that the land is theirs -- that their period of chastisement is at an end and that shortly divine blessing will come to them -- not as Christians, but as Jews."
In November 1914 after showing that the "sevenfold" or "seven times" period of gentile possession of the Land (Leviticus 26:23-42) had expired, Pastor Russell said:
"Now we are able to tell them [Jews] that the Gentile Times have expired, and that they may go up and take possession of the land. We do not know how soon they will take possession. According to their faith it will be unto them."
The Pastor also stated that every effort should be made to buy the land from a nearly bankrupt Turkey since if Turkey lost Palestine in the war, it would be a total loss.
When Pastor Russell died October 31, 1916, the Herzl Year Book observed: 10
Russell himself, according to the testimony of the American Jewish Press from the years 1910 to 1916 maintained excellent and friendly relations with the leaders of American Jewry to his last days.
Historians observe that Zionism was at its lowest ebb between 1904 and 1917. But Pastor Russell just before his death was gratified to observe that he did much to revive it. The work of Pastor Russell on behalf of the Jewish People can best he summed up by recognizing that never before had the Jewish People opened their hearts to a Christian minister...And never before had a Christian minister brought such heartening comfort to the Jewish People.
researchers have found evidence that modern genital warts – otherwise known as the human papillomavirus (hpv) – were sexually transmitted to homo sapiens after our ancestors slept with neanderthals and denisovans roughly around 100,000 years ago.....
flipper: According to the DNA testing service company called " 23 and Me " that tested my DNA it stated that I am 3.1 % Neanderthal ( which I sit at 98 % more Neanderthal than the rest of the planet - only 2 % of the population is more Neanderthal than me or higher than 3.1 %
I think I have met some close relatives of yours a time or two in my life.
*to add - and by that...I meant to say that they are genuinely affectionate :)
...which might have some bearing on the wart thing
i know i will get a lot of backslash on this forum for saying this, but as it looks like, i won't ever be able to escape the jws.
i have been a born in, third generation jw and awoken in one way or another (i joined this forum 15 years ago) for a very long time.
but i have adapted to the jw lifestyle to a point where it does not bother me anymore.
Stealth: I Didn't intend to come off as being sexist in my comment about watching porn. I was just speaking from my own experience after leaving the cult and dating women on the outside.
I had no issues what so ever with meeting and interacting with worldly women with the exception of my lack of sexual experiences and that was a direct result of being raised a JW and their bedroom rules. And yes, watching a little porn did help me get up to speed in that area.
Fair enough.
I can understand that but a lack of sexual experience is not a very good reason to stay in the org.
Saying that all he has to do is watch some porn to figure out worldly women lacks perspective. It says that the only reason that he fails as a confident male is solely based on whether or not he can measure up sexually. That is not what most 'worldly' women want in a mate. There is far more to a relationship than knowing how to behave like a porn star.
The best way that a man can learn how to be sexy is to learn how to respect women outside of the bedroom. And I am not talking about doing it on the kitchen counter or in the laundry room either.
If he wants to learn how to interact with women, he needs to learn how to treat them like more than a sexual plaything. And preying on vulnerable JW women isn't going to help him.
To be fair, I don't think he is much different than any male that has been raised with the sense of male entitlement that the org promotes and practices. It is a difficult indoctrination to overcome and sadly, a lot of JW males never do. And not just JW males.
