Posts by OrphanCrow

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Subliminal images - why and who are the individuals behind it?

by UnshackleTheChains in

i remember about 5 years ago reading on another site about subliminal images in wt literature.

i honestly thought it a load of bs until i checked out one glaringly obvious image of a creepy skull in clouds within the knowledge book.

i was shocked and even showed my wife at the time who thought it was creepy.. so my question is why?

OrphanCrow

UTC: Sorry. But can't quite read what it says on boys shirt. Enlighten me?

ENEMY

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The most successful teaching of Jehovah's Witnesses and an amazing new book on the divine name

by slimboyfat in

jehovah's witnesses have had to revise their chronology and various doctrinal interpretations due to events and scholarly corrections.

but the one teaching where they have been consistently ahead of the curve is the importance of jehovah's name.. .

i'm going to run through a (necessarily selective) timeline of jw events and scholarly publications that demonstrate the phenomenal success of this teaching in the last days.

OrphanCrow

Ruby456: edit: and seriously how many women hold their own here on JWN nowadays? besides blondie none!!!! mind you I haven't seen her around lately. I guess those that do hold their own move on thanking the guys for giving them the opportunity or something like that? i'd really like to know

*sorry...I know this is off topic, but I can't help myself...I have to reply to this

Ruby, I think I do just fine here. I think I can hold my own. Seriously.

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Using Illegal Means for Righteous Activism

by John Davis in

i wanted to get people's opinion on something.

how do you feel when people use illegal means while performing their activism to shed light on the watchtower.

there have been people who have illegally recorded conversations with elders and with branch offices or at meetings.

OrphanCrow

John Davis: ...do you think it is right to willfully break the law to get this accomplished?

Absolutely.

The way to fight an organization that has no respect for the law itself, is to fight with the same tools.

The org has an established history of challenging the law and breaking the law at every opportunity that it can when it suits their purposes.

Think of the children that have been kidnapped from hospitals to avoid a legal, court ordered blood transfusion. Think of the children who were instructed to defy the law back in the 40s...just so Rutherford could challenge US law (and don't forget the one boy who was castrated for his loyal efforts to break the law).

Think of all those Gilead special pioneers (or are they "need-greaters"? I dunno...whatever...specially trained ones) trained to break the law in countries where the WTS has been banned or restricted. Think of all the clandestine smuggling they engage in that the org brags about - the smuggling of money and literature.

The org is a legalistic organization that breaks the law, challenges the law, and hides behind the law.

If the org followed the law and respected the law...then it would be reasonable to expect the activists to do the same.

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Subliminal images - why and who are the individuals behind it?

by UnshackleTheChains in

i remember about 5 years ago reading on another site about subliminal images in wt literature.

i honestly thought it a load of bs until i checked out one glaringly obvious image of a creepy skull in clouds within the knowledge book.

i was shocked and even showed my wife at the time who thought it was creepy.. so my question is why?

OrphanCrow

August 22, 1991 Awake! magazine.

Page 8:

detail of boy's t-shirt:

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Jehovahs Witnesses and Babylon The Great.Why the Emphasis on the R.C.Church and not on Islam.

by smiddy in

i was thinking back to when the book babylon the great has fallen gods kingdom rules.was published many years ago when it was believed religion was declining in the world.. the book took exception to the r.c.church as the worst of christendom substituting themselves for the kingdom of god on earth , the counterfeit kingdom i think they called them.vicar of christ on earth.. and while its true to some degree in western lands today that religion is declining as regards christendom it is not happening in non christian religions around the world.. which brings me to the unprcedented rise and spread of islam in the world today .. with the war in iraq ,syria ,etc,and the people fleeing these war torn countries to europe and elsewhere around the globe with refugees and asylum seekers the spread of islam in the short space of time now beats any missionary projects conducted by christendom.. judaism ,christendom and islam all have their roots in the bible.the jews first then christians then muslims.. the bible only relates to the first two jews and christians and is completely silent about muslims.even in prophecy.. the book mentioned earlier btggkr nowhere mentions islam or muslims.as if they didnt even exist ,yet today they equal in numbers to all of christendoms religions.. islam today is by far a greater threat to christianity and especially to jehovahs witnesses than anything the roman catholic church ever posed before.. obviously the holy bible and the holy spirit or jehovahs chosen people the jehovahs witnesses never did forsee the rise and influence of the religion of islam in todays world.. the bible is completely silent about islam or the rise of muslims on the world stage.. could it be that they could no more predict the future than i could ?.

the wtb&ts the publishing house of jehovahs witnesses have for the past 100 years have continually attacked the roman catholic religion and portrayed them in an unfavourable light.time after time in mags and books,.

how many times have the wtb&ts attacked and challenged the religion of islam and muslims and condemned them as a principle member of babylon the great the empire of false religion.. to this day jehovahs witnesses cannot freely go door to door preaching their message in muslim dominated countries where proselytism is forbidden.

OrphanCrow

Smiddy: The book mentioned earlier BTGGKR nowhere mentions Islam or Muslims.as if they didnt even exist ,yet today they equal in numbers to all of christendoms religions.

Smiddy, try doing a search in that book for "Mohameddans". (and "Moslems")

You will find those terms used in the Babylon book. And never as part of "Babylon the Great". That role was solely for "Christendom".

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Facebook shuts ex j-dub site for "hate speech"

by GoneAwol in

sorry if this has been posted, havnt had much time to look..

OrphanCrow

It may have been temporarily unavailable, but the Facebook page is still accessible:

https://www.facebook.com/avoidjw/

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Jehovah's Witnesses Crimes Against Fellow Jehovah's Witness Victims

by Hecce in

i ran a search and it seems that this was not posted before, there are 5 pages of criminal cases involving jws.. in the following criminal cases, the watchtower society - jehovah's witnesses religion served as the spiritual element of the perpetrator's and/or other actor's formative environment, or otherwise served as a major influencer of the perpetrator's and/or other actor's behavior.

the following cases are often tragic, and speak for themselves.. http://jwdivorces.bravehost.com/familicide4.html.

OrphanCrow

Simon: Yes, anyone conducting "affinity fraud" would be classed as a JW because they masquerade as such to conduct their crimes.

There are several "affinity frauds" that are documented on those pages where the perpetrator was and/or is currently a JW. There is nothing "masquerading" about them being JWs - the masquerade is them pretending to be financial experts.

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Jehovah's Witnesses Crimes Against Fellow Jehovah's Witness Victims

by Hecce in

i ran a search and it seems that this was not posted before, there are 5 pages of criminal cases involving jws.. in the following criminal cases, the watchtower society - jehovah's witnesses religion served as the spiritual element of the perpetrator's and/or other actor's formative environment, or otherwise served as a major influencer of the perpetrator's and/or other actor's behavior.

the following cases are often tragic, and speak for themselves.. http://jwdivorces.bravehost.com/familicide4.html.

OrphanCrow

smiddy: Their are other sites that show crimes comitted by Jehovahs witnesses , and every crime you can think of has been comitted by a practicing JW from murder to robbery ,extortion ,fraud, and child sexual abuse to name a few.

6 pages of JW crimes against non-JWs

http://jwdivorces.bravehost.com/jwcrime.html

Halfbanana: What is problematic for the researcher is the absence of references in most cases.

I have found some information just by looking for my own sources. Most of the cases have a reference and for the ones that don't, they are outweighed by the wealth of reliable information on the site.

The commentary, however, leaves a bit to be desired at times - some of the comments make me cringe. But, I try to ignore the commentary and look up the primary sources to do my own digging around if the case sounds interesting so that I can make my own conclusions.

The pages that are really difficult to go through are the ones concerning children:

Legal Issues Affecting Children of Jehovah's Witnesses

http://jwdivorces.bravehost.com/

There are several pages of blood transfusion cases involving children

http://jwdivorces.bravehost.com/blood.html

...and many more

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Jehovah's Witnesses Crimes Against Fellow Jehovah's Witness Victims

by Hecce in

i ran a search and it seems that this was not posted before, there are 5 pages of criminal cases involving jws.. in the following criminal cases, the watchtower society - jehovah's witnesses religion served as the spiritual element of the perpetrator's and/or other actor's formative environment, or otherwise served as a major influencer of the perpetrator's and/or other actor's behavior.

the following cases are often tragic, and speak for themselves.. http://jwdivorces.bravehost.com/familicide4.html.

OrphanCrow

The pages that expose JWs who have exploited fellow JWs in financial scams are invaluable.

JWs are especially vulnerable to con artists and the JWs have many who will take advantage of those who don't know any better.

I found this page to be especially interesting:

http://jwemployees.bravehost.com/NewsReports/2062.html

The details of Goldfarb's and Prodi's involvement in the pornography industry are revealing.

And at the end of their escapades...this little item:

Click this AMICUS CURIE BRIEF link to see who the members of the U.S. Congress and U.S. Senate sought out in 1998 to provide them with expert information regarding the intricacies of credit card processing in the Internet Pornography industry. Yes, one of the experts interviewed was a Manager employed at ATS named Scott Lockwood. Google that name along with the keyterms "jehovah's" and "software".

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Blood Transfusions/Blood Salvage

by NJ501 in

hi all,i've been doing some research on blood transfusions and fractions.

i found out a patient can donate their own blood, so it can be used for elective surgery...i was wondering if theirs really any difference between a blood transfusion of your own blood and the blood salvage procedure.

i think quite similar since its just a re-transfusion of your own blood.. what are your thoughts?

OrphanCrow

NJ501: I think quite similar since its just a re-transfusion of your own blood.

It isn't the same.

When you get an autologous transfusion, where you have pre-donated your own blood, you get your blood back. Simple. Give. Store. Give. Store. And maybe give again. Store. Transfuse same blood back into patient. (or not). This type of blood transfusion is straightforward but isn't used much - it was popular back in the early days of the HIV/Aids scare. However, the administrative burden added substantial cost to this method of donating. And, not everyone is a candidate for this type of specialized service. But, it can be done and still is in some cases.

Cell salvage is quite different than that. In cell salvage, the shed blood from a surgical site is suctioned up and put into a canister to be processed and cleaned. And, then the packed red cells that are left are re-tranfused into the patient. The filtration process strips away platelets and other components of the blood that are needed for coagulation. The only part of the blood that a patient gets returned to them is the oxygen-carrying cells - the packed red cells.

And, it is by examining that process, cell salvage and filtration/processing, that a person begins to understand why the JWs are allowed those "minor" fractions of blood.

However, the WT never does explain how that "pouring on the ground" part of the bible verse applies in the use of cell salvage machines.

This court case describes a cell salvage procedure being used during a surgery:

http://caselaw.findlaw.com/pa-superior-court/1868129.html