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  Do you believe in god?

  by freakyAL in

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  2. beliefs

  i used to be a staunch believer in god.

  maybe its technology and science advancing so much thats got me doubting idk.

  do you believe in god?

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  venus: The fact that God is not doing anything to remove suffering is not a problem for me to disbelieve in Him because we all know humans are capable of removing suffering, but they are not inclined to do (they are even inclined to increase the suffering)

  You can't have it both ways, venus. You had made this statement:

  Similarly, God has put in an invisible mechanism whereby every one receives what he deserves or takes birth where he deserves to be in

  which claims that every one deserves their place of birth yet then you try to shift the blame of suffering that arises from that place of birth onto the shoulders of other human beings, not God.

  Which is it?

  God's "invisible mechanism" that knows who is deserving or not in order to place their birth in a position of privilege or a position of starvation? Or is it a way to test us lowly undeserving/deserving humans? Are the poor ones put on earth as a test for the rich ones? Are they God's measuring stick? Is that their function?
  
  
  
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  Do you believe in god?

  by freakyAL in

  1. watchtower
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  i used to be a staunch believer in god.

  maybe its technology and science advancing so much thats got me doubting idk.

  do you believe in god?

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  venus: Cofty,
  You have no enthusiasm because of your atheistic disposition which is understandable.

  Condescending

  venus: I have no problem in believing in a God who is responsible for the fine-tuning of earth so that various forms of life can enjoy their lives here.

  Self-elevating and pompous
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  Do you believe in god?

  by freakyAL in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i used to be a staunch believer in god.

  maybe its technology and science advancing so much thats got me doubting idk.

  do you believe in god?

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  venus: In effect, you are asking "is law of cause and consequence working according to conditional love or unconditional love?

  Don't be obtuse. And don't misdirect.

  You know exactly what I am asking and my question is far simpler than that.

  You are/were speaking about "God" and using your experience of parenthood as an analogy to understand your concept of what/who "god" is. And now you have changed up your language and pulled the discussion into the "law of cause and consequence".

  Stay on track. Keep it simple. Don't be obtuse and misdirect.

  So. No. In effect, I am not asking you that. I am asking you exactly what I had said - within your concept of love (not law of consequences...blah, blah, blah....), does it include a concept of unconditional love?

  It is a simple yes or no answer.

  Experience shows it's just blind--you can bring it to your benefit if you want or to your harm if you want--it is you who decide it.

  Bullshit.

  See above photo of child

  That is what you say is "god's invisible mechanism" doled out according to who "deserves" it

  
  
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  Do you believe in god?

  by freakyAL in

  1. watchtower
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  i used to be a staunch believer in god.

  maybe its technology and science advancing so much thats got me doubting idk.

  do you believe in god?

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  OrphanCrow

  venus: As a parent when you make sure your children get inheritance according to each one deserves, there is a communication in that act. Similarly, God has put in an invisible mechanism whereby every one receives what he deserves or takes birth where he deserves to be in. It takes more than ordinary seeing to see this.

  Venus, is your view of "love" one of conditions?

  Are you aware that there are parents in this world who do NOT give inheritance according to "what they deserve" because the parents simply see ALL their children as deserving of loving kindness?

  Do you have a concept of unconditional love?

  Similarly, God has put in an invisible mechanism whereby every one receives what he deserves or takes birth where he deserves to be in.

  Oh. So, is it God's "invisible mechanism" that has determined that each and every human being on this planet is "getting what they deserve"? Is it God's Invisible mechanism that is responsible for this?

  
  
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  JW Broadcasting: Russian Convention Travel Report w/Mark Sanderson

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  https://tv.jw.org/#en/mediaitems/latestvideos/pub-jwb_201709_12_video.

  a few things about this video:.

  it's very nice that they managed to host a convention for the russian brothers and sisters, and that they all got fed.

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  Oh. Duh.

  The first photo of the Brotherhood of Suits has "21" brothers. The Airport Brotherhood has 18 brothers.

  3 were left behind - the Russian Brothers didn't take the Last Flight Out of Moscow.
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  JW Broadcasting: Russian Convention Travel Report w/Mark Sanderson

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  https://tv.jw.org/#en/mediaitems/latestvideos/pub-jwb_201709_12_video.

  a few things about this video:.

  it's very nice that they managed to host a convention for the russian brothers and sisters, and that they all got fed.

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  OrphanCrow

  Okay. I was bored. I broke down and watched Mark's broadcast.

  A couple things.

  Brothers. Brothers, Brothers, Brothers and Brothers. BROTHERS.

  And sisters.

  In the first image of all those "brothers" (1:27), stop the video and play a game. I call it "spot the brothers". I found "4" definitive brothers and a couple of maybe boys from tiny wee heads that might be men. And I counted at least 21 women in the frame.

  Brothers.

  And speaking of brothers - the Brotherhood of 18. The ones pictured in suits at the Supreme Court who apparently got "The Last Flight Out of Moscow" (!!!! - that could be a song title or maybe a movie....). That Brotherhood - the Blessed Ones.

  Well...please correct me if I am wrong, please do, but...two of the Russian brothers who are pictured in the first Brotherhood of 18 ( the Suit Brotherhood) are not in the Brotherhood of 18 Who Escaped Russia AKA the Airport Brotherhood of 18.

  I dunno - I think there were some replacement brothers who got the seats out of Russia because I can't find the Russian brothers in the Airport Brotherhood of 18 pic.
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  JW Broadcasting: Russian Convention Travel Report w/Mark Sanderson

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  https://tv.jw.org/#en/mediaitems/latestvideos/pub-jwb_201709_12_video.

  a few things about this video:.

  it's very nice that they managed to host a convention for the russian brothers and sisters, and that they all got fed.

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  pale.empeor:
  Mark Sanderson tells us that when the appeal at the Supreme Court was negative that they had to leave Russia immediately... but they had no tickets.

  Huh? Whaaat?

  Why? Why no tickets? Did they really believe that the appeal wouldn't be negative?

  So they up and trotted off to Russia on one way tickets. 18 of them. One way tickets to Moscow. Flying in with Jehovah's blessing and assurance of a win. So they can stay in Russia. And sunbathe on the beach north of St Petersburg, likely.

  Huh. Cut those holiday plans short, didn't they?

  But why? Why buy one way tickets? 18 f***ing one way tickets to Russia. To appeal a Supreme Court ruling. Uh....that wasn't too bright, was it?
  
  
  
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  Kleenex Head Covering

  by jwundubbed in

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  2. experiences

  growing up a woman in the cult was pretty bleak.

  most of the adult women i knew were either depressed sad women or an embarrassment to me.

  i was typical kid in that regard.

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  Bycnl: I remember one sister who put a diaper on top of her head to conduct the meeting for field service

  That is really and truly awful.

  However, I find solace in creating a mental image of all the JW men I know, and have known, with a diaper on their heads.

  Role reversal. Now, when I have flashbacks/memories of the horrible encounters I had as a young girl growing up inside the Kingdom Hell, I will be sure to slap a diaper on those pompous a-holes' heads.

  Ah yes, there you are, Brother ****, telling me what to do, wearing a diaper on your head. Not so powerful now, are you, huh?
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  Oddest front covers on Watchtower or Awake

  by usualusername1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in my comedy i want to show the audience a large version of some weird front covers from the watchtower or awake.. do you have any suggestions?.

  cheers.

  paul.

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  The wonder of scientific research

  by amicabl in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this has possibly been brought up before however here goes.. constant reference is made by many posters to scientific research as being the only way to prove something factual that would otherwise have to be taken on faith.

  there actually seems to be "faith" in scientific findings.. my experience over many years is that most scientific research is fake.

  nothing oftencomes of the big announcements made to raise more money.. money, prestige, pride, human error, suppositions etc., are rife amongst the scientific community.. i realise that there have been many advances over hundreds of years but humankind is in a mess, although very different to even a century ago.. the medical profession now has vaccinations for everything, antiviral drugs etc.

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  amicabl: The point I was trying to make in my obviously fractured English was that the life expectancy of 30 or 40 or whatever was caused by the large number of small children who died which reduced the statistical life expectancy or maybe I am wrong there too. No offence meant to the ladies with whom in the real world I usually get on quite well with.

  And hence your name, right? :)

  Yes, I understood what you were saying. And of course, that point has merit. However, it is not the whole picture. Infant and maternal mortality rates have been impacted dramatically by the advent of science. It is not reasonable to make the assertion that the world was better off, health-wise, before scientific advancements.

  And yes, women have benefited largely by medical advancements. We actually can anticipate living past our childbearing years, our children can anticipate having their mothers around longer...unless, of course, you are a JW woman. Or a JW child. Then, your mortality risks go through the roof. JW women and children enjoy the primitive state of medicine during and previous to the 19th century.

  The point that I was making, amicabl, was that "common knowledge" is knowledge that is suspect - we have to stop and examine if that "common knowledge" is rooted in our own personal biases. Things that we can believe are 'facts" because they are "common knowledge" can be simply manifestations of our own desires and/or position and/or limited access to information.