this is the most weird story.
if you read half way down you will see the protagonists are jdubs.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/alberta-family-kidnapping-naked-nisku-1.4398942.
Weather for Edmonton on Monday November 6:
High of -6C (21.2F)
Low of -14C (6.8F)
*your fridge temp is plus 4C and your freezer temp is about -18C, for those of you who know nothing about living in sub-freezing temperatures
A little bit nippy for shucking off your clothes and going for a naked joyride. I am still trying to figure out the drug induced logic behind that move. By all of them.
Lol! Talk about a group of people who are highly susceptible to suggestion. Oh my lord
i think with all the child molestation lawsuits the watchtower corporation is and has been hit with is the main reason for all the prime property sell off recently.
the silent lambs protest back in 2001, and the dateline prime time expose probably was the death knell for the watchtower's hey day in brooklyn.. their membership is drying up, young people are leaving in droves, the situation is no doubt far worse than the annually published yearbook figures show and so they ceased it's publication permanently.
and those left remaining are experiencing a huge grab of money from their congregations accounts and now are required to make pledges about how much they can contribute which i think is a last ditch effort by the governing body to squeeze more money out of the rank and file watchtower indoctrinated drones.. i think all this is happening because even those still loyally attending are hearing reports of these tremendous pay out that the watchtower is making to the victims of their self serving policies that put young ones at great risks so that even the rank and file don't want to contribute to pay court costs and so are withholding giving contributions to a very great extent.
Nose dive in donations?
The Canadian Branch has consistently reported an increase in donations up to and including last year:
well, this is awkward !
these are jehovah's witnesses...lol.
http://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/naked-suspects-in-nisku-kidnapping-may-have-consumed-hallucinogenic-tea-1.3671452.
Update from CBC:
Alberta family taken in naked kidnapping case were frightened, want answers
An Alberta family allegedly kidnapped by a group of naked neighbours, who may have unknowingly drunk some hallucinogenic tea, say it was a frightening experience.
And the family members say until they learn more facts about what happened, they don't know how to feel about the ordeal.
"We just don't have enough information," said one family member, who asked not to be named. "We have no answers as to whether anything was purposely taken or not purposely taken."
The family members were reluctant to share their experience because of the ongoing court case, but they told The Canadian Press they know the accused as neighbours. They are all members of the same Jehovah's Witnesses church.
Read more at link
i'm gobsmacked.. the 7 rock star popes in warwick know darned well that the 2 witness rule allows child rapists to get away with their crime.. geoff (whacko jacko) jackson was at the australian royal commission and should have seen first hand what a vile man made law the 2 witness rule is.. my question is, why do they still insist on this pervert protecting rule?.
i know it's a highly controlling cult but still...........................stuff my old boots, mate!.
the above is more a rhetorical question.
Oh Fisherman. You and your loaded Watchtoweresque language contortions.
I was not "trying to pass off" anything. I said nothing about blanket international requirements. You did.
I am not confused.
You are.
i'm gobsmacked.. the 7 rock star popes in warwick know darned well that the 2 witness rule allows child rapists to get away with their crime.. geoff (whacko jacko) jackson was at the australian royal commission and should have seen first hand what a vile man made law the 2 witness rule is.. my question is, why do they still insist on this pervert protecting rule?.
i know it's a highly controlling cult but still...........................stuff my old boots, mate!.
the above is more a rhetorical question.
Steph: So the problem really is the fact that the JW do not encourage the victims to seek out help from the police in order to get the second witness
Exactly.
A child who says "I have been abused/raped/touched, etc is the first witness. The second witness may very well be the medical report that the police would pursue if and when they were contacted. The second witness then becomes the physical evidence that the doctor finds. Like ripped anal tissue, vaginal tears, etc. Second witness is forensic evidence that is discovered if and when the child is taken to the police/doctor.
Eyewitnesses are unreliable. Physical evidence is reliable and valid.
genesis says a lot about both pre-flood and post-flood giants.the really big nasty ones drowned in the flood but there were lots of others the israelites had to overcome including the king of basham with his 11 foot iron bed.people nowadays are much smaller and i think its due in part to us losing more and more of adams perfection.
i turn my attention to the animals that went onboard the ark but are as yet undiscovered.
during president knorr's time the panda bear was discovered in a market place in china and eventually an american team tracked them down in the wild.
I think I need one of these:
genesis says a lot about both pre-flood and post-flood giants.the really big nasty ones drowned in the flood but there were lots of others the israelites had to overcome including the king of basham with his 11 foot iron bed.people nowadays are much smaller and i think its due in part to us losing more and more of adams perfection.
i turn my attention to the animals that went onboard the ark but are as yet undiscovered.
during president knorr's time the panda bear was discovered in a market place in china and eventually an american team tracked them down in the wild.
waton: Saturday? satire? Here in the North America, , home of the Sasquatch, it is only Friday,
Oh damn. I lost/gained(?) a day on the other side.
Eh...I looked at a Sasquatch on Wednesday and shucks...here it is only Friday and on the other side it is Sasquatch Saturday. See what happens when you look a Sasquatch in the eye?
genesis says a lot about both pre-flood and post-flood giants.the really big nasty ones drowned in the flood but there were lots of others the israelites had to overcome including the king of basham with his 11 foot iron bed.people nowadays are much smaller and i think its due in part to us losing more and more of adams perfection.
i turn my attention to the animals that went onboard the ark but are as yet undiscovered.
during president knorr's time the panda bear was discovered in a market place in china and eventually an american team tracked them down in the wild.
The Real Edward: I turn my attention to the animals that went onboard the Ark but are as yet undiscovered. During President Knorr's time the panda bear was discovered in a market place in China and eventually an American team tracked them down in the wild. After this the panda was added to the list of animals that Noah cared for.
And I turn my attention to your lack of attention to accuracy.
Westerners first encountered (not "discovered") the panda bear in 1869.
Knorr et all (and you) really need to get up to speed.
I believe the Sasqatch to be in this category. There is huge evidence of them living in the dense forests of North America.
Heehee
And there is HUGE evidence that if you ever look a Sasquatch in the eyes that he will take you back into the parallel world that he lives in.
Heehee
2+2: For me, it’s the humour that makes this site.
Me too. And to think that this is only Saturday. Usually it is Sunday morning that has the most chuckles
may i recommend this podcast discussing the russian revolution.
its made by a the conversation, an academic web-site, and features interviews with a number of historians.
i recommend it because an in-depth knowledge of history will protect your thinking from the shallow historical interpretation evident in the jws concept of a progression of world powers and the view of ww1 being a world war.
Fulltimestudent: even all those years of atheistic teaching by the Russian Communist Party does not seem to have weakened those attitudes. In contemporary Russia, the Orthodox church seems as strong as ever.
An interesting article to give some context to the Orthodox church in Russia:
because he was shunned by his customers?.
Ruby: Until orphancrow can show me evidence from the WTS' literature that business relationships with disfellowshipped individuals are allowed
You will note that I had been talking about the "rules" that existed prior to the early 70s and I was curious as to when the rules changed.
I did not make any claim that those rules are the same now and I have no intention ( and I never did) to show you that those rules are the same now. Never did. I never said what you say that I did. You have added your own twist to my words.
However, for the sake of historical accuracy (and it has nothing to do with the present situation concerning disfellowshipping) this quote comes from 1952 and would be the one that dictated the behavior of my father and his generation of JWs and it is the one that explains why the JWs in my congregation from the 60s would still do business with a disfellowshipped person:
***w 52 12/1 p. 735 Questions From Readers***Is it proper for a Christian witness of Jehovah to have business relationships with one who has been disfellowshiped?—F.G.,California.The circumstances of each case might influence the answer. Generally speaking, it would be desirable for us to have no contact with disfellowshiped persons, either in business or in social and spiritual ways. If it is possible to make new business connections relative to employer, employee, the acquiring of raw materials or the performance of needed services, and so forth, it would be advisable to do so. However, if circumstances do not allow for this as you continue to make necessary provision for yourself or family in a material way, then you may decide to continue the business contact with a disfellowshiped person. But if you deem this necessary, you must be very careful to see to it that you do not associate with the ousted one and do not discuss spiritual matters with him. Always bear in mind that our spiritual interests are of far greater concern to us than material interests, and follow closely the recommendations of the congregation regarding one who has been disfellowshiped. We safeguard not only our own personal spiritual interests by so doing, but also those of our brothers, and especially those of weaker ones or new ones who might be easily stumbled by our contact with disfellowshiped persons.
Of course the WT encourages JWs not to do business with a disfellowshipped person but the provision was still there to continue to if necessary.
