Rodrigo, you may find this thread useful:
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When the “blood fractions” was available for any pacient as an alternative treatment?
by RodrigoGuerreiro insorry if my topic question was difficult to understand (english is not my native language).
i will like to know the year when the so called “blood fractions” was available as an alternative to a whole blood transfusion.
my question is triggered by the curiosity about how long jw died or put their life at risk, refusing that type of treatment before the year 2000 (when the “new light” allowed that type of treatment).. thank you.
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Interview with Zimbabwe's Minister of Tourism at JW HQ
by OrphanCrow inzimbabwe has been under the rule of a dictator since 1980. robert mugabe, the president of zimbabwe, is notorious for his ruthless ways of dealing with the problems of a post-colonial country.
his land reforms resulted in much economic hardship for the people of zimbabwe and anyone who was a white farmer in zimbabwe suffered dire consequences as a result of mugabe's land grabs post-2000.
the atrocities against the people of zimbabwe have been documented by cathy buckle and i have personally heard of the violence against those opposed to mugawbe's policies.. some comments from a 2003 article about robert mugabe:.
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I notice that the video I had linked to in this thread is no longer available on youtube. It is available on the org site, tho:
https://www.jw.org/en/news/releases/by-region/zimbabwe/interview-zimbabwe-minister-of-tourism/
And for the sake of posterity, this image is the Minister of Tourism posing with WT dudes in 2014:
http://www.herald.co.zw/witnessing-a-towering-faith/
Zimbabwe is undergoing a little bit of upheaval at the moment.
It appears like Ol' Bob has been dethroned. The army has taken over:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-42035981
"Outside State House, the president's office, some people staged a sit-down protest in front of a line of troops, and opposition leader Morgan Tsvangirai addressed the crowd, to cheers.
The BBC's Andrew Harding in Harare says this is a watershed moment and there can be no return to power for Mr Mugabe.
Our correspondent says the situation may appear to be getting out of Zanu-PF's control and there could be a broad push to introduce a transitional government that includes the opposition."I wonder where that will leave the JWs/WTS in Zimbabwe?
Apparently, according to this article from January 2016, the WTS in Zimbabwe has been poised to get involved in Zimbabwe's education system:
http://www.herald.co.zw/jehovahs-witnesses-contribution-to-literacy/
https://www.newsday.co.zw/2016/07/witnesses-debut-zibf-exhibition/
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Whatever happened to Paula Combs AKA Sue Pamela Carne?
by OrphanCrow inin may 1983, a jehovah's witness woman worked as a governess for william plunkert who worked at the us embassy in moscow.. moscow charges cia link to religious activist.
william plunkert was a cia operative during his time in moscow:.
how the cia ran a ‘billion dollar spy’ in moscow.
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Thanks Moster
zeb: No wonder Putin shakes his head at the west.
I think most of Russia is shaking their head at the Mormon being chosen for US ambassador. Not a good choice if the goal is to foster Russian trust. If that is even possible. Probably not. Russians will never trust foreigners. Nyet to the Mormon
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why won't legal department simply release all the secret pedophile files?
by poopie inwhat do you think there hiding?.
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Fisherman: And if wt wanted to protect a perpetrator, why record the incident?
Well. Intentional or not, holding onto that kind of information sure gives somebody a lot of control over the one did something wrong, doesn't it?
Heh. I can understand quite easily how that kind of information could be valuable.
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Whatever happened to Sue Pamela Carne AKA Paula Combs AKA suspected CIA operative??
by OrphanCrow inmoscow.
1983.. william plunkert.
diplomat at the us embassy in moscow.. sue pamela carne - american jehovah's witness woman employed as governess to plunkert.
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You are welcome, Serious.
More information on this thread here:
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5946767826747392/whatever-happened-paula-combs-aka-sue-pamela-carne
*yeah, darkspliver, I thought I had waited past the 24 hour stretch but maybe not...oh well
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why won't legal department simply release all the secret pedophile files?
by poopie inwhat do you think there hiding?.
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John: But people on here want it to be released to the general public...
I don't think that the "list" should be released indiscriminately to the general public. Not at all.
It could be that some people have that impression due to their knee jerk defense mechanisms kicking in.
I think the list should be turned over to an independent investigative body to be evaluated for possible criminal proceedings against known pedophiles in the database.
Australia only had 1000+ cases to examine. Just imagine the task ahead of an investigating team to look at the US cases. That would require a formidable team.
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Rock band titles from JW history / culture
by sir82 inon another thread, undercover suggested "adam and the dinosaurs".. i came up with these:.
green bible dinosaurs.
jezebel and the fornicators.
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Shadrach and the Destroyers
Meshach and the Monsters
Abedneggo's Angels
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why won't legal department simply release all the secret pedophile files?
by poopie inwhat do you think there hiding?.
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Fisherman: Not hard to get df from JW: If you watch porn, or smoke; and if you miss a lot of meetings you get shunned. How much more they will do to someone who is a child molestors.
How much more? Absolutely nothing is how much more they can do.
Nothing. That is what will happen. Nothing at all.
In a JW person's mind, disfellowshipping is the ultimate punishment/control. However, it is meaningless. Disfellowshipping means nothing at all.
Disfellowshipping a JW pedophile does nothing to protect the larger community. It does nothing to protect the "worldly" child next door.
This whole notion that "disfellowshipping" is the be-all and end-all of JW justice is pathetic. Pathetic.
Albeit meetings and fs is not a daycare and parents should not trust anyone with their precious kids -and then blame watchtower.
Fisher, I almost agree with you here. The primary responsibility for the care of children is with the parents. Unfortunately, there is a double problem.
Firstly, JW parents are taught by the WT that the "brotherhood" is to be trusted over and above anyone else.
Secondly, never underestimate the ability of a predator to insinuate themselves into family situations in order to betray the parents' trust and to exploit the child. And this action has been encouraged by the WT itself - "look out for the children of single parents or the child who has an unbelieving parent", encouraging 'brothers' to spend time with children from these "disadvantaged" families.
That aside, how do you suggest family incest should be handled? Who is responsible there? And, according to the WT itself, most of the sex abuse inside the JWs occurs within the family circle.
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Whatever happened to Paula Combs AKA Sue Pamela Carne?
by OrphanCrow inin may 1983, a jehovah's witness woman worked as a governess for william plunkert who worked at the us embassy in moscow.. moscow charges cia link to religious activist.
william plunkert was a cia operative during his time in moscow:.
how the cia ran a ‘billion dollar spy’ in moscow.
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dsp: This was in the early 1980's?
I think at that time the Soviet's thought every American was a CIA operative!...to continue with that thought. As I said, the Russians still think that way. The Sue Carne/Paula Combs incident would have only reinforced the Russian suspicions.
In October of this year, a Russian television channel broadcast a documentary about "sects" that cast Scientologists and Jehovah's Witnesses as "closely associated with US special services".
TV channel "Zvezda" "exposed" Scientologists and Jehovah's Witnesses
October 17, 2017 on the TV channel "Zvezda" in the program "Conspiracy Theory" was shown the film "Espionage under the guise of religion". The authors of the film, using the example of Scientologists and Jehovah's Witnesses, cited "evidence" that "many representatives of religious minorities, and in fact, sects, are closely associated with US special services."
The film is replete with "anti-sectarian" cliches about "psychotechnics that allow you to completely take control and will, and the mind of a person, and, as a consequence, his soul" , seizures of "adepts", "recruitment", etc.
As experts, "sectologist" Alexander Dvorkin, adviser to the rector of the Moscow State Pedagogical University Yevgeny Spitsyn and head of the department of religious studies of the Kazan Federal University Larissa Astakhova were invited."Had the courage to conduct an honest and objective examination of the stormy activities of Scientologists" , and those "in revenge" organized surveillance of it.
Like in other similar films, Ukraine is a negative example of the intervention of "sects", only according to the authors of this film, Jehovah's Witnesses actively participated in "events on the Maidan".
The creators of the film give recommendations on how to distinguish "sect" and "how to understand that your preacher can be a man with shoulder straps of another state" .
The film ends with a message that the new US ambassador to Russia is a Mormon, from which it is concluded that "the round-up of our souls continues" . -
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Whatever happened to Sue Pamela Carne AKA Paula Combs AKA suspected CIA operative??
by OrphanCrow inmoscow.
1983.. william plunkert.
diplomat at the us embassy in moscow.. sue pamela carne - american jehovah's witness woman employed as governess to plunkert.
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I apologize for the double post.
I made a post over 24 hours ago and it queued so I waited until I woke up this morning to re-post it again. When yesterday's post didn't appear, I made this thread.
How many hours (days?) should a person wait for posts to appear after they queue??
**edit - aarrrgh. Now i am getting my own posts mixed up...
