Posts by OrphanCrow

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Interview with Zimbabwe's Minister of Tourism at JW HQ

by OrphanCrow in

zimbabwe has been under the rule of a dictator since 1980. robert mugabe, the president of zimbabwe, is notorious for his ruthless ways of dealing with the problems of a post-colonial country.

his land reforms resulted in much economic hardship for the people of zimbabwe and anyone who was a white farmer in zimbabwe suffered dire consequences as a result of mugabe's land grabs post-2000.

the atrocities against the people of zimbabwe have been documented by cathy buckle and i have personally heard of the violence against those opposed to mugawbe's policies.. some comments from a 2003 article about robert mugabe:.

OrphanCrow

*damn editing...picking up where I left off...*

So.

A convention that was expecting 45,500 to 50,000 attendees had 50,000 stopped at the border and then, with the remaining ones who were scheduled to attend, there was, apparently, screening for Ebola done on them.

And...the full attendance turned out to be 82,500? Did it? When they were only prepared for less than 50 thou? turned 50, 000 away?...and yet still managed to accommodate over 80 thou.

Something doesn't add up. Something doesn't smell right.

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Interview with Zimbabwe's Minister of Tourism at JW HQ

by OrphanCrow in

zimbabwe has been under the rule of a dictator since 1980. robert mugabe, the president of zimbabwe, is notorious for his ruthless ways of dealing with the problems of a post-colonial country.

his land reforms resulted in much economic hardship for the people of zimbabwe and anyone who was a white farmer in zimbabwe suffered dire consequences as a result of mugabe's land grabs post-2000.

the atrocities against the people of zimbabwe have been documented by cathy buckle and i have personally heard of the violence against those opposed to mugawbe's policies.. some comments from a 2003 article about robert mugabe:.

OrphanCrow

I am a little bit fascinated with the 2014 convention held in Harare.

Every time I read/hear something from the org's sources, the number of 82,500 is emphasized. This fellow in the video interview does it too - 82,500 in attendance!

Here is the fluff piece, the press release that follows all JW conventions:

Jehovah's Witness convention ends on high note
August 25, 2014
Bronfenbrenner Torubanda
The three-day International Convention of Jehovah’s Witnesses ended in Harare yesterday with the giant National Sports Stadium filled to capacity. The convention, which ran under the theme “Keep Seeking First God’s Kingdom” attracted thousands of people, with a bumper crowd of over 82 000 attending yesterday. So huge was the crowd that some speakers and giant screens were mounted outside at the National Sports Stadium B Arena to cater for those who failed to secure space inside.
The convention was conducted in Shona, English, Ndebele, Chinese and sign language and everyone was counted when entering the stadium.
Out of 3 500 international delegates, 2 000 were from United States of America, while 1 500 were from Brazil and Germany.
About 2 000 delegates came from African countries such as Zambia, Kenya, Mozambique and South Africa.

Now. Lets look at this article:

50,000 Jehovah's Witness pilgrims denied entry into Zimbabwe

by Staff reporter
15 Aug 2014
At least 50 000 pilgrims from South Africa who were supposed to attend the annual conference of Jehovah's Witness scheduled for August 22 -24 at the National Sports Stadium were stopped from coming into the country for fear of logistical nightmares.
Addressing a press briefing in Harare yesterday ahead of the conference, Zimbabwe Tourism Authority chief executive oficer Karikoga Kaseke said a good number of South Africans, who were supposed to come for the religious gathering, would no longer be attending the event.
"If they were allowed to come there was going to be chaos at Beitbridge Border Post as they were going to come by road. We are interested in religious tourism, but we do not have facilities to handle such huge numbers of people," he said.
About 3 500 international pilgrims from the United States and United Kingdom have been confirmed to attend the event and were booked in hotels around the capital, while over 42 000 locals were set to attend the annual conference.
Jehovah's Witness digital events co-ordinator Carl Lindstrom said locals would be staying in schools.
"Guests are booked into 16 hotels around the capital and 37 lodges. About 3 500 international guests are expected while over 42 000 locals are set to attend. Most of the locals would be accommodated at five schools that have offered to house guests," he added.
John Hunguka, another representative of the church, said internationally, the church has 7,9 million followers with an estimated 42 000 followers in Zimbabwe.
And then there is this:
Ebola Fears Cloud Jehovah's Witnesses Meeting in Zimbabwe
August 14, 2014HARARE — Zimbabwe's government is in a quandary as the country prepares to host a three-day Jehovah's Witnesses conference with 50,000 people from around the world expected to attend. Some delegates will come from West Africa, where there has been an outbreak of Ebola. Given the state of the host’s health care system, however, some delegates might be barred from attending.
Dr. Christopher Tapfumaneyi, the principal director in Zimbabwe’s health ministry, says the country has not had an Ebola case, but that the government is aware of problems that the conference might present. Tapfumaneyi says with the advice of the World Health Organization, Zimbabwe has started educating some medical officials about Ebola.
“They are going to ensure that if there is a visitor coming into the country who in the past three weeks has been in the three countries that have been targeted, they will look at the person closely. If there is reason to isolate that person, that isolation will be done. The centers have already been prepared for that," he said.
The Zimbabwean official is referring to Guinea, Sierra Leone and Liberia and that Zimbabwe is not taking chances. The government has since recalled all its soldiers on the United Nations peacekeeping mission in Liberia following the outbreak of Ebola in West Africa.
The World Health Organization head in Zimbabwe, Dr. David Okello, says the southern African nation must not panic.
“The likelihood of Ebola coming here is remote," he said. "The risk is low, but we live in a global village. Somebody could be infected with Ebola in Liberia, flies to South Africa and is here the next day. I think my main worry is we are now dealing with, not an epidemic of Ebola here, but an epidemic of fear and panic."
Zimbabwe's health care system has been near collapse for more than a decade.
Earlier this week, the African Union said the continent’s ministers of health would meet in September to lobby their countries to replenish the AU's Special Emergency Fund for Drought and Famine, which will also now cover public health.
The AU said the Ebola outbreak provides an impetus to speed up the establishment of the African Center for Disease Control and Prevention for early detection, preparedness and response. An early detection center is what all Jehovah's Witnesses coming to Zimbabwe will experience.
If they have been to Liberia, Sierra Leone or Guinea, they might not attend the conference, but Effort Mugabe, the coordinator of the Jehovah's Witnesses conference, is convinced all will go well.
“We are not very much concerned, because very shortly the government assured that they are in total control of it. We do hope that with the help of the government, we will be happy to do it without any problems at all," he said.
The Ebola epidemic in West Africa is probably the deadliest in history and led health ministers from southern Africa to meet in South Africa last week. They asked World Health Organization officials to provide for the control of the international spread of disease across borders.

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Interview with Zimbabwe's Minister of Tourism at JW HQ

by OrphanCrow in

zimbabwe has been under the rule of a dictator since 1980. robert mugabe, the president of zimbabwe, is notorious for his ruthless ways of dealing with the problems of a post-colonial country.

his land reforms resulted in much economic hardship for the people of zimbabwe and anyone who was a white farmer in zimbabwe suffered dire consequences as a result of mugabe's land grabs post-2000.

the atrocities against the people of zimbabwe have been documented by cathy buckle and i have personally heard of the violence against those opposed to mugawbe's policies.. some comments from a 2003 article about robert mugabe:.

OrphanCrow

There we go. I found the interview on youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6u9jASyLtA

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Interview with Zimbabwe's Minister of Tourism at JW HQ

by OrphanCrow in

zimbabwe has been under the rule of a dictator since 1980. robert mugabe, the president of zimbabwe, is notorious for his ruthless ways of dealing with the problems of a post-colonial country.

his land reforms resulted in much economic hardship for the people of zimbabwe and anyone who was a white farmer in zimbabwe suffered dire consequences as a result of mugabe's land grabs post-2000.

the atrocities against the people of zimbabwe have been documented by cathy buckle and i have personally heard of the violence against those opposed to mugawbe's policies.. some comments from a 2003 article about robert mugabe:.

OrphanCrow

From this link here:

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/285370002/similarities-between-witnesses-wwll-witnesses-under-rulership-robert-mugabe-zimbabwe

joe134: ...I was having a conversation with a black brother from Zimbabwe while out in field service about the persecution the brothers would be enduring under the rulership of Robert Mugabe. To my surprise this brother actually said the exact opposite to what I thought. Robert Mugabe is quite favourable to the witnesses And prefers to have them working for him in none political roles e.g grounds men, cleaners etc. Because of political neutrality they arnt a threat to his ideals. Interestingly to I note that recently there was an international convention there, and I can't help but wonder if this was a political ploy to perhaps convert the masses to an organisation that will allow him to carry on unhindered. What I think to is this would of also allowed him to improve his public image with the locals e.g foreign currency /spending etc.. As let's face it at the time what other westerner would want to visit Zimbabwe.

And a later comment in that same thread (to add - oops, I see that Searcher posted the same thing earlier on this thread too):

The Searcher: I spoke (at a convention) with a white brother from Zimbabwe who related the story of a young black Zimbabwean man who was fleeing for his life from a group of men who wanted to kill him. He evaded a terrible death by running into a Kingdom Hall where he was hidden by the J.W.'s attending. The young man was Robert Mugabe. The brother also informed me that Morgan Tsvangurai warned the Witnesses a few years ago, that once he had dealt with Mugabe, he was going to deal with them.
This explains the enigma of Zimbabwe's tolerance of J.W.'s.

Can anyone confirm or deny this story?

Searcher? I find this story to be quite interesting. Especially now that Mugabe is gone and Tsvangurai is poised to share in the power re-structuring of Zimbabwe. That story of Mugabe being rescued by JWs - is that another of the those JW legends or is there any truth to it?

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Interview with Zimbabwe's Minister of Tourism at JW HQ

by OrphanCrow in

zimbabwe has been under the rule of a dictator since 1980. robert mugabe, the president of zimbabwe, is notorious for his ruthless ways of dealing with the problems of a post-colonial country.

his land reforms resulted in much economic hardship for the people of zimbabwe and anyone who was a white farmer in zimbabwe suffered dire consequences as a result of mugabe's land grabs post-2000.

the atrocities against the people of zimbabwe have been documented by cathy buckle and i have personally heard of the violence against those opposed to mugawbe's policies.. some comments from a 2003 article about robert mugabe:.

OrphanCrow

Now it is over.

The fat lady has sang.

Mugabe is finished.

He resigned just as impeachment proceedings got under way.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/21/africa/robert-mugabe-resigns-zimbabwe-president/index.html

Harare, Zimbabwe (CNN)Robert Mugabe resigned as Zimbabwe's President after 37 years of autocratic rule on Tuesday, finally succumbing to the pressure of a military takeover and the humiliation of impeachment.
The announcement came minutes into a joint session of the Zimbabwean Parliament in Harare, convened to prise the 93-year-old from power.
As the Speaker read out a letter from Mugabe, lawmakers broke out in thunderous applause. The impeachment proceedings were immediately suspended.
In the streets outside, crowds erupted in rapturous celebrations, dancing and cheering in joy, raising their fists and waving Zimbabwean flags.

Opening a Restaurant

by compound complex in

jw
friends

a friend and i were talking today about a child-friendly restaurant she wants to open.

the accommodations will suit the small stature of children, their food likes, a decor that pleases little guys and gals.

she said to me, "you're children only once.

OrphanCrow

By the way, Coco, I missed the part that she was your student.

I thought you were Uncle Coco and I know that uncles carry a special weight with their nieces!

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Opening a Restaurant

by compound complex in

jw
friends

a friend and i were talking today about a child-friendly restaurant she wants to open.

the accommodations will suit the small stature of children, their food likes, a decor that pleases little guys and gals.

she said to me, "you're children only once.

OrphanCrow

coco: Personally, I have been naive in such matters and given out more than had been taken in.

Me too. The bane of the creative ones.

We are just so happy to be doing what we like that we blissfully meander along, giving away ourselves for free and then wondering, looking back, where it all went wrong

I could have been a good business person - if I had learned early on that money is the goal instead of happiness.

Happiness will look after itself. Money won't

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Opening a Restaurant

by compound complex in

jw
friends

a friend and i were talking today about a child-friendly restaurant she wants to open.

the accommodations will suit the small stature of children, their food likes, a decor that pleases little guys and gals.

she said to me, "you're children only once.

OrphanCrow

Coco: It is not about the money, she reassured me.

I know she is only eleven years old, Coco, but you need to nip this one in the bud.

Change this narrative if you truly want her to be happy and successful. "Not about the money" is a noble enough position but it doesn't translate well into making dreams come true.

Little girls (small women) need to be taught that it IS about the money. Money is how you measure business success.

Chase the dream...with money in hand and money as the goal. That dream will come true then. Make money an integral part of the equation and Lacey will be running that restaurant with flying colors.

Good luck little woman :)

*to add - if she doesn't make it about the money, someone else will and there she will be...just standing in line to join the ranks of the brightest and most creative who make other people rich

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Its Knorr day the 8th of Russell today

by Lostandfound in

in the panda paradise, promisd repeatedly for decades, old bc and ad dating must go, as will months named for roman gods and such like as well of course as the days also are named from pagan origins, have th gb on earth or their now heavenly prdcessors, sorted this out so that roght after the big a we start counting years as fom am, after armaggedon, we could have a franz day, a knorr day or maybe even a lett day, and as for months, always th big guns of russell, rutherford and others such as xsplane ready to replace january, february etc.

sunday howerver as now known would have to be th most important day of the week and with a name of great significanc, step forard donate day !

maybe franz name wont be usd as, when he viewed himself as gods only channel of communication, he either misheard what j told him, or made bad notes on their conversations, hence the 1975 debacle when j whispered the date to him but franz got confused and just made up the date from a few fragments of drivel found in an old desk drawer from russells days.

OrphanCrow

Here ya go.

This is the "Calendar of Jehovah".

Image result for calendar of jehovah woodworth

I am not sure which year we would be in now (this one is for 1903 - Jehovah's year of Ransom) but it is clear that we are currently in the eleventh month - the month of Jehovah. The days of the week line up correctly with conventional calendars, so today is Heavenday, the 21st of Jehovah in the year 2017 (Jehovah's year of the ?)

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Its Knorr day the 8th of Russell today

by Lostandfound in

in the panda paradise, promisd repeatedly for decades, old bc and ad dating must go, as will months named for roman gods and such like as well of course as the days also are named from pagan origins, have th gb on earth or their now heavenly prdcessors, sorted this out so that roght after the big a we start counting years as fom am, after armaggedon, we could have a franz day, a knorr day or maybe even a lett day, and as for months, always th big guns of russell, rutherford and others such as xsplane ready to replace january, february etc.

sunday howerver as now known would have to be th most important day of the week and with a name of great significanc, step forard donate day !

maybe franz name wont be usd as, when he viewed himself as gods only channel of communication, he either misheard what j told him, or made bad notes on their conversations, hence the 1975 debacle when j whispered the date to him but franz got confused and just made up the date from a few fragments of drivel found in an old desk drawer from russells days.

OrphanCrow

Oh my goodness, Lost and Found.

That is your 666th post!!!!

Lol!