Posts by OrphanCrow

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New Article on Bloodless Medicine

by Lee Elder in

here is a good article on bloodless medicine.

i have weighed in with my thoughts, and encourage others to do the same:.

https://sciencetrends.com/rise-bloodless-medicine-treat-cannot-receive-blood-products-religious-reasons/.

OrphanCrow

Yes, Lee, this does seem to have the appearance of being a "good article".

I spent some time trying to track down the authors and trying to figure out why the article was written in the first place.

A couple things seem a bit "off" to me.

First, the little plug at the end of the article says this:

This study, Treatment of individuals who cannot receive blood products for religious or other reasons was recently published by Carlton D. Scharman, Joseph J. Shatzel, Thomas G. DeLoughery in the American Journal of Hematology.

The medical doctors who are purported to have authored this article, would and should know that this article is not a study, isn't even close to being a study, and it doesn't even follow proper referencing and sourcing for the material that they have presented. A doctor that is worth even a tiny bit of their salt should and would use good references. These authors didn't. They didn't reference one single tiny little bit of information that they so readily put out there for the public to lap up and consume.

I am going to bet money on this (if anybody wants to take me up on it and if they are okay with a tiny little bet just cause I am poor) and I am going to take a "shot in the dark" and say that this is a fluff piece generated by Jehovah's Witnesses themselves who have a special interest in the world of "bloodless medicine". JWs are notorious, especially in the world of blood, for soliciting the propaganda surrounding their medical investments

Moreover, OrphanCrow would have something to say about the claimed survival rates of JWs in the study cited. Little wonder the survival rates were high because the bloodless procedures were for elective surgery where preparation is paramount .

Okay, Steve, I will say something. What I can say about the "study cited" is that the study isn't cited at all. Not one citation in the whole article. What I can say about the "study cited" is absolutely nothing at all. The "doctors" who wrote this article didn't bother to cite anything - they just threw stuff out there and expected the reader to accept whatever they are writing. Good writing that offers solid information does not take that approach.

You are correct in that so-called "bloodless surgeries" conducted on JWs are done on patients who are in better health than those who undergo conventional surgery. That is a known fact.

Here is something else that is a red-flag to me when reading this article. Not once do the authors talk about any of the risks or side effects of so-called "bloodless medicine"

And another thing (this is actually the biggest 'thing' that gets my attention...)

Does anyone remember that court case a few months back where the court was unconvinced that "bloodless medicine" and/or "bloodless surgery" even existed? In fact, the court decided that the use of those terms was meaningless and that the field of "bloodless medicine" didn't even exist.

That last point is the final straw that makes me take the position that this article has been generated by JWs who have a special interest in keeping the bloodless myth alive when it is actually dead in the water

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Is it just me or are the street sign, road,car verification excessive?

by nonjwspouse in

i must go through six of new verification screens on average before verifying.

i seriously try harder and harder, i don't know if we include the tiny little piece of sign or not.

i have done both,and still get another screen.

OrphanCrow

Hi Nonnie.

I experimented

I use Chrome. I cleared my cache, cookies and history first which naturally signed me out of this forum. I usually just stay signed in.

I only had to find three cars the first go around and then I had to find one more. And that was it. I was back in

Do you clear your cache etc before signing back in? Are you able to just stay signed in? Cause that is the easiest - just don't log off

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Charging $150 To Tell Your Stories

by Bangalore in

jw
friends

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/how-to-escape-from-jehovah-s-witnesses-religion#/.

for $150: collaboration with the backer so that their story of successfully escaping an abusive belief system (300 words max) features along with others in the final pages of how to escape from jehovah's witnesses.

the text will be written by the author but will include a minimum of one quote worded by the backer.

OrphanCrow

For $150: collaboration with the backer so that their story of successfully escaping an abusive belief system (300 words max) features along with others in the final pages of How to Escape From Jehovah's Witnesses. The text will be written by the author but will include a minimum of one quote worded by the backer.

So let me get this straight

A person would write a one page story of "escaping an abusive belief system"

Yup, that should do it - one page will encapsulate that. Of course. 300 words on "how I escaped from a cult"

Sure. That sounds like a "back from school holidays" writing assignment

Then, they would send their one page story (along with 150 dollars) to somebody who will re-write that story. The person who re-writes that story will include one quote from the original one page story

Making noise and more noise

Noisy noisy noisy

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Kingdom Hall ... BURGER KING?

by sparky1 in

i live in a very rural part of the northeastern united states.

after 9 years of waiting, the local witnesses are getting their new kingdom hall.

it is being built on a back road next to a sandpit.

OrphanCrow

It is on threads like this that I really miss Outlaw

I just can't seem to find the right image. The best I can do is come up with the Separation of Church and State by Phillip Hamburger. Which is really quite boring and not at all funny

*to add:

maybe this one is better

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Hell Exists

by Poppy520 in

many people of all denominations are beginning to believe that hell does not exist - but the bible supports the claim that it does.

examine this verse, one under nkjv and the other nwt:.

nkjv - matthew 25:46, "and these will go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.".

OrphanCrow

The concept of "hell" did not come from Judaism.

The belief in hell was adopted from the Zoroastrian belief system. (They also had a little bit to do with the concept of 'satan'/devil)

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So is there any truth to more Northeast Ohio congregations being merged or dissolved?

by My Name is of No Consequence in

i know of some congregations and even circuits that have already met this fate recently.

are there any more to come for certain?.

OrphanCrow

And, which court case was it where the victim had such a hard time finding the JC/congregation records and not only that, difficulty in locating the elders who had sat in on the relevant JC that was being addressed in the court proceedings because the congregation no longer existed or had been merged? Something like that...

How convenient that "...it is happening all over the US and UK"

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Snooker debate has finally been settled...................

by The Fall Guy in

............by the most successful player to date, stephen hendry himself.. while commentating on the uk masters final last night, he said this;.

“if there's anyone in any sport displaying more genius at their sport than ronnie o'sullivan does at snooker, i've yet to see it.

best player i've ever seen!”.

OrphanCrow

NeveraJW, it is an apple and orange comparison - it isn't really the same.

Baseball players and golfers don't have to develop the fine motor skills that are required for snooker, which by itself is enhanced when a player has physical strength.

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Snooker debate has finally been settled...................

by The Fall Guy in

............by the most successful player to date, stephen hendry himself.. while commentating on the uk masters final last night, he said this;.

“if there's anyone in any sport displaying more genius at their sport than ronnie o'sullivan does at snooker, i've yet to see it.

best player i've ever seen!”.

OrphanCrow

Yes, neverajw, it is a sport. And a damned fine one.

Do you play? You have to be in pretty good physical shape to stay at the table for those long runs. In snooker, the physical preparation is critical.

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Snooker debate has finally been settled...................

by The Fall Guy in

............by the most successful player to date, stephen hendry himself.. while commentating on the uk masters final last night, he said this;.

“if there's anyone in any sport displaying more genius at their sport than ronnie o'sullivan does at snooker, i've yet to see it.

best player i've ever seen!”.

OrphanCrow

Rocket Ronnie!

Wow. Amazing player. Just f**king amazing.

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The Judge on Trial: Uncovering the Real J F Rutherford [Part 1]

by pomo6780 in

enough rhetoric for now, here is my promised first part to my series.. for the benefit of lurkers, i'm using mainly wt publications as my research to show this information isn't 'apostate'.

part 1: association with russell and the bible students.

i want to ask an honest question.

OrphanCrow

Morph: OC, dont be so judgmental! Pomo is going to REVEAL THINGS WE NEVER KNEW!!!!!!

Yeah, I guess I am a little bit harsh, aren't I?

I think I am just tired of wasting time wading through all the garbage and noise that has been generated about this damn cult. Much of the "new" material that is put out in cyberspace (and/or published in yet another book) is simply noise and "look at me!" attention seeking behavior that acts as a curtain to hide the real truth and real information and real knowledge.

Just because some nobody has an opinion doesn't mean that their opinion is valuable or even close to being accurate. And it doesn't mean that they should throw it out there to trip up people who are looking for good solid material to read about the history of this organization.

This kind of writing does far more harm than it does good.