Posts by OrphanCrow

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Research help needed: knowledge of Knights Templar and Masonic history vital

by Fay Dehr in

i am in conversation with a uk historian regarding some knights templar locations, where jws have built buildings.

*** this is serious research - not a joke *** .

i am not - and do not wish to be - a conspiracy theorist, but something has come to light in the uk and i lack the knowledge of knights templar + masons.

OrphanCrow

There are 33 degrees in Scottish Rite Freemasonry

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just wanted to pose the question to the group and see what the general opinion is vs what the wt may have claimed in other cases.. we all know that they have argued over clergy privilege when elder learn of a crime but keep quiet about it.

regardless of what one may feel about this, lets assume for a minute that they are correct.. all elders are directed to contact the branch when they learn of a case of child abuse.

would the conversation between the elder and the branch be considered under the "clergy privilege"?

OrphanCrow

StarTrek: All elders are directed to contact the branch when they learn of a case of child abuse. Would the conversation between the elder and the branch be considered under the "clergy privilege"? Doesn't clergy privilege apply only when a priest/pastor speaks with a congregant?

The directions for the elders to contact the legal department is to establish a lawyer-client relationship between the elders and the org. The phone call gives the elders legal representation and as such, all their communication with the org becomes confidential.

However, once the elders contact the legal department, they themselves have broken the clergy-penitent privilege and for the life of me, I cannot understand how or why this so-called clergy "privilege" has been allowed to stand.

The org protects their secret pedophile database through the concept of lawyer-client privilege, not clergy privilege.

As per usual, the org wants their cake and eat it too: estoppel.

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Supreme Court Rules in Favor of Baker Who Refused to Bake Cake for Gay Couple

by Simon in

seems like such an obviously correct decision to overturn the previous overreach - it should never have been necessary to go to the supreme court but happened because the rights of the religious were being ignored.. as the fundamental level, no one should be able to compel you to work for them or to provide services that go against your beliefs, and certainly not have the government be able to force you to comply.. if this was allowed there would be so many unreconcilable situations that would clog up courts over nonsense.. i also have little patience for these activists that intentionally look to be offended.

it really doesn't do their cause any good to go round looking to make trouble for people.

it's also misguided because it ends up strengthening religious rights over effectively stupid issues.. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/04/us/politics/supreme-court-sides-with-baker-who-turned-away-gay-couple.html.

OrphanCrow

freemindfade: A few years back darkmatters2525 (they do funny you tube animation on the Bible), did a video about the inevitable endless plight of SJW's. Eventually, everything becomes guilty and everything becomes banned, even all the SJW's.

Oh.

I think there is a tv series about that too

Image result for handmaid's tale

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I've graduated at last

by fulltimestudent in

jw
friends

after a bit of a kerfuffle over a procedural matter, my university has awarded me a degree.

(the procedural problem was caused by my independent selection of what i wanted to study).

award : bachelor of arts.

OrphanCrow

Congratulations, FullTimeStudent!

An education is the best investment - nobody can ever take it away from you and you cannot lose it. You will always have a degree. It is yours forever now

Good luck in your graduate work (I know you want to...). Education is addictive

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LEAKED: WHQ Accounts: 2016-2020 Budget

by Fay Dehr in

leaked: whq accounts: 2016-2020 budget [part 1 of 5] https://youtu.be/g08tw2v3b4s.

leaked: whq accounts: 2016-2020 budget [part 2 of 5] https://youtu.be/rpceb5v0vbe.

leaked: whq accounts: 2016-2020 budget [part 3 of 5] https://youtu.be/2xa08ukc_6i.

OrphanCrow

Lastman: There is lots new

But..but...did they release the master ledger of the org's entire financial records?

Do we have that available to us? Do we have a way of checking the validity of their claims?

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LEAKED: WHQ Accounts: 2016-2020 Budget

by Fay Dehr in

leaked: whq accounts: 2016-2020 budget [part 1 of 5] https://youtu.be/g08tw2v3b4s.

leaked: whq accounts: 2016-2020 budget [part 2 of 5] https://youtu.be/rpceb5v0vbe.

leaked: whq accounts: 2016-2020 budget [part 3 of 5] https://youtu.be/2xa08ukc_6i.

OrphanCrow

I don't think it is a ploy to extract more donations.

It is a ploy to appear like they are broke to avoid paying redress. They don't want to be held accountable for child abuse victims (or for all the deaths and suffering that their blood doctrine has and is causing)

I agree with DesirousOfChange

Dog and pony show

Smoke and mirrors

Their lips are moving

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LEAKED: WHQ Accounts: 2016-2020 Budget

by Fay Dehr in

leaked: whq accounts: 2016-2020 budget [part 1 of 5] https://youtu.be/g08tw2v3b4s.

leaked: whq accounts: 2016-2020 budget [part 2 of 5] https://youtu.be/rpceb5v0vbe.

leaked: whq accounts: 2016-2020 budget [part 3 of 5] https://youtu.be/2xa08ukc_6i.

OrphanCrow

Fay: We're getting some serious financial meeting leaks - people on the inside want this info leaked

Yeah...just think about that for a minute

Lastman: Watching these idiots with their choreographed, poorly acted BS, reading from scripts while at the same time trying to sound genuine is ridiculous.
You can see the puppet strings. But when you watch the GB, they look equally puppet. The only question in my mind, “Who is the puppeteer?”

Totally. Moving lips, lying lips

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LEAKED: WHQ Treasuers Office meeting 2018

by Fay Dehr in

leaked: whq treasuers office meeting 2018 [part 1 of 6] https://youtu.be/z17b4_qgpto.

in this leaked 6-part video meeting, mark sanderson leads an insightful look into how the treasurers office and accounts staff operate.

cmc = cash management center - of which there are 3. the cost-saving game is afoot!these clips are unedited, so feel free to add comments..

OrphanCrow

SailAway: I can't even tolerate the cadence of their speech

Me neither. And I can't stand watching their lips move.

Fortuitous that all these financial leaks are happening bemoaning the impeding financial ruin of the org, isn't it? Right on the heels of the org not standing up to the plate in Australia. Oh, woe is the org - what a downfall, indeed. From being one of the top 10 corporations in NY a few years back to...oh me oh my, selling property and all and now this.

Their lips are moving

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LEAKED: WHQ Treasuers Office meeting 2018

by Fay Dehr in

leaked: whq treasuers office meeting 2018 [part 1 of 6] https://youtu.be/z17b4_qgpto.

in this leaked 6-part video meeting, mark sanderson leads an insightful look into how the treasurers office and accounts staff operate.

cmc = cash management center - of which there are 3. the cost-saving game is afoot!these clips are unedited, so feel free to add comments..

OrphanCrow

I tried. I really did. But I just can't handle stupid some days.

I didn't make it past the tiger in India killing a person and Sanderson claiming that the tiger gets hunted and killed because of an obscure bibble principle about "accounting". Sheesh, Sanderson - the tiger gets killed so it doesn't go and kill anyone else, not because of the tiger being held accountable for taking a life.

Today is not the day for watching stupid. Sorry....I can't make it past the tiger.

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Religious Discrimination; now LEGAL

by lastmanstanding in

newsflash.

there are businesses that are now discriminating in their hiring practices based on the fact that you are a jw.. sure, you think i'm mad.

but it's true.. the business circles have become acutely aware of the -not even 1 year old- decision in the industrial court where a jw ratted out a fellow jw and brought disrepute to the bank where they both worked.

OrphanCrow

I think that the title of this thread is misleading and inaccurate.

Religion is not being discriminated against - what is being targeted and stopped is people who break confidentiality laws, regardless of their religion (or because of their religion).

Refusing to hire someone because their religion lacks a respect for confidentiality laws is not discrimination, it is respect for what is legal.