Posts by OrphanCrow

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Why didn't I leave back then???

by silentbuddha in

sunday my old bethel roommate came up to visit me.

he left a couple years ago and he wanted to catch up and reminisce.. while we sat back remembering crazy things we saw take place at bethel he reminded me of a creepy instance with bro.

swingell.. it was a saturday morning and we decided to actually go get breakfast.

OrphanCrow

silentbuddha: Just before the breakfast was served GB member Lyman Swingel strolls in. The man was older and shuffling his feet, but he was wearing a kimono over a pair of jeans...
I was staring at him because I could not believe what I was seeing. So of course we tried not to pay attention, but it got worse. After he sat down he pulled the waiter close and tells him something. 2 minutes later the waiter comes out with a tray that had 3 large containers of JELLO.

You have just described an elderly man with dementia.

Not something to laugh about or criticize

Everybody gets old if they don't die first

I guess JWs don't ever think that getting old will happen to them

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Spiritual "Protection" - a Menace on Psychological Development

by Wake Me Up Before You Jo-Ho in

not quite a week ago, @lost in the fog created a thread entitled: do you have this illness?.

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5187824140681216/do-you-have-this-illness.

in my year of being on this forum, i have browsed many a disillusioned thread of ex-jehovah’s witnesses expressing similar symptoms of post traumatic stress disorder when detailing their awakening - my own story included.

OrphanCrow

WakeMe, you are dead on with your conclusions about JWs being stunted and infantilized by the org. It is an upside down organization. Not only are the adults infantilized, the children are being "adultized".

Think of how a JW child is made up to be a tiny adult - they are dressed in clothes that are adult in style, they are given adult tasks (save the householder from Satan!), they are put on boxes so they can reach the microphone to read Bible passages about adult things they don't understand (rape and bestiality) and then they are baptized while they are still children. And you end up with kids thinking they are all "grown up" when they are not. And they never will be.

How can a JW distinguish between what is appropriate behavior for a child or adult when they are given such convoluted guidelines to follow?

No wonder there is little concept about age appropriate behavior when the children are made into adults and the adults are made into children.

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Do you still want to be identified as a Christian?

by eyeuse2badub in

most americans want some form of religious identity - even atheists are creating churches.

by j. warner wallace | fox news.

the number of self-proclaimed christians is shrinking in america.. i’ve been collecting data on this trend for over 10 years, and the surveys reveal an important truth: fewer people claim a christian affiliation than ever before, and those who claim no religious affiliation are the fastest growing group in america.. but while fewer people may belong to christian churches or communities, americans will likely retain some form of religious identity – especially if what’s happening in europe is an indicator of things to come.. a new pew forum survey conducted in western europe reveals that christianity is waning there even faster than it is in the united states.

OrphanCrow

eyeusetobe: Why do so many Europeans still “consider themselves Christians, even if they seldom go to church?”
In some countries (like Germany), it may simply be a reaction to the fact Europe has “opened its doors to more than a million migrants, many from predominantly Muslim countries.”

Actually, no. That is just another one of those 'politico-mythic' devices picked up by religious type people to divert the reality of why people in Germany "seldom go to church". It has nothing to do with immigration of Muslims and everything to do with economics

Read this:

Compulsory income tax on Christians drives Germans away from Protestant and Catholic churches

"Up to 400,000 Germans officially filed declarations to leave the Protestant and Catholic Church after a decision to extend the 8 or 9 per cent charge to capital gains income"

10

Remember when

by blownaway in

i remember when paterson was built.

the so called training facility.

we were told it was to teach elders what their job was after armageddon.

OrphanCrow

Market fluctuation$

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The biggest news of the year for Mr. and Mrs. Totally ADD

by Still Totally ADD in

jw
friends

this is bigger than christmas and birthdays wrap into one.

thanks to the australian royal commission our youngest son has woke up.

we received a e-mail from him tonight where he apologized to us for shunning us all these years, how bad he felt for doing this.

OrphanCrow

Awesome

Just awesome

25

Medical marijuana

by Mikethegreek in

hey everyone.... i'm new to this but i would like to run my experience with medical marijuana past you.

i'm 48 years of age and have been in the truth for my whole life.. i suffer from ankylosing spondilitis and have for many many years.

it's a debilitating form of spinal arthritis and the symptoms of this auto-immune disorder affect more than my spine.

OrphanCrow

2+2=5:
The earth itself would literally improve if we embraced cannabis

Yay Canada!

Almost there. Soon

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/cannabis-pot-legalization-bill-1.4713839

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Do You Think Many Jehovah’s Witnesses Truly Believe?

by minimus in

jw
friends

i did for many years even if i had doubts that i would put on the back burner.

but i thought the majority of witnesses believed, even if they were “weak” in the faith.. obviously, we have elders , pioneers and ministerial servants that are here and they are not true believers.. do you think many jws simply do not believe what they are preaching?

?.

OrphanCrow

They ALL believe in The Promise.

They believe they will be resurrected and get a chance to live forever.

That is the fundamental core belief that they all share. Nothing else matters. They will sell their family, their friends and their own soul for a chance at that Promise.

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The Excuses JWs use for the child abuse mishandling issue...

by stuckinarut2 in

i have noticed a pattern of regurgitated excuses and justifications used by the average jw if the topic of child abuse gets raised:.

"oh but jehovah's organization is setting the lead in how to handle this issue".

"why are you getting so hung up on this one issue?

OrphanCrow

Paleemperor: ..."alleged victims"

Would that be like the "alleged Guardians of Doctrine"

"alleged" governing body

Jehovah's "alleged" organization

And of course...the "alleged" Truth

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Does anyone know of this guy, or agree with his statements on racial differences in IQ?

by Sugar Shane in

here are some quotes by the guy, from his youtube channel.

his name is stefan molyneux, and he’s apparently popular among the alt-right crowd.

he’s also widely quoted on these discussion boards, by certain ex-jws, who use him to help promote their political views.

OrphanCrow

How Rushton's research is incorrect:

http://gregladen.com/blog/2011/12/26/the-argument-that-different-ra-1/

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Does anyone know of this guy, or agree with his statements on racial differences in IQ?

by Sugar Shane in

here are some quotes by the guy, from his youtube channel.

his name is stefan molyneux, and he’s apparently popular among the alt-right crowd.

he’s also widely quoted on these discussion boards, by certain ex-jws, who use him to help promote their political views.

OrphanCrow

Doc: NOT a politically correct thread.
Think I'll skip it.

Me too

But for the reason that the "science" these "facts" have been derived from is incorrect

Incorrect research incorrectly done and incorrectly interpreted

Hogwash

Look up Rushton. The guy whose "work" these notions rest on - a Canadian prof that taught in eastern Canada - there are far more critics of his sloppy research than there are supporters. The only* place you will find Rushton believers is in politics and religion. Go figure

*That could be a hyperbole. I tend to go a bit overboard sometimes. Especially when the claim to facts is based on really really bad science