This is from the March 31, 1920 Golden Age magazine:
OrphanCrow
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Charlie Russell, A Zionist Hero
by fulltimestudent ini was rather surprised today as i explored some archaeological news for my macquarie asian history fb page, to be suddenly confronted with this heading in the israeli haaretz media site.. before herzl, there was pastor russell: a neglected chapter of zionism.
years before theodor herzl proposed creating a jewish state, charles taze russell was traveling the world holding jewish mass meetings, beginning in 1879, at which he urged jews to find a national home in eretz israel.
... and this quote from charlie's zion's watchtower (p. 329, 1892: .
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William Redding
by Bobcat inis anyone familiar with this person and his possible relationship with ctr or the wt?.
if you are wondering why i ask, take a look here and scroll down one page and start reading a little.. i could not find any mention of him in the wt online library.
i wonder if this is something barbara anderson would be familiar with?.
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OrphanCrow
In Russell's day medical practice in the USA was divided into several strands: Ecclectic, Homeopathic, Allopathic [today's MDs, the term is now considered pejorative], and Herbal. Barbour was an 'electric physician.' This was seen as valid medical treatment in that era; several of Barbour's advertisements for his medical practice exist. Russell was attracted to advice from all of these.
In Russell's day, the allopathic doctors were the ones who were supported by the American Medical Association. Doctors that were osteopaths, chiropractors, herbal, eccletic, etc, were not considered legitimate medical practitioners by the AMA.
Russell was attracted to "alternative" medical practitioners. He had many followers who were chiropractors and osteopaths. At that time in history, the AMA did not recognize them as "doctors" per se, in spite of them having "dr" in front of their names. They were not licensed by the AMA. It would take many decades and lots of legal battles before chiros and osteopaths were recognized as legitimate medical practitioners - I believe it was well into the 70s before osteopaths could be licensed in California, for example.
I guess I should have said this in my earlier post: Russell was anti-AMA, along with many of his followers. They sought out alternative medical treatment. They were in opposition to the American Medical Association.
In the Russell v. Russell transcript he talks about treating members of the Bethel staff with remedies. These were derived from physician-authored books such as R. V. Pierce's Common Sense Medical Adviser in Plain English; or Medicine Simplified. These were printed by the hundreds and advice from them appeared in almanacs. Russell did not reject medical practice.
R.V.Pierce. Quack doctor. Russell did not reject medical practice - he embraced quack medicine.
Dr Ray Vaughn Pierce (pictured, courtesy of Project Gutenberg) was an über-quack whose laboratory in Buffalo, NY, produced millions of dollars worth of patent remedies. As well as the Pleasant Pellets shown below, there were Dr Pierce’s Anuric Tablets, Dr Pierce’s Favorite Prescription, Dr Pierce’s Vaginal Tablets, Dr Pierce’s Extract of Smart-Weed and Dr Pierce’s Golden Medical Discovery – a licorice-flavoured tonic that reportedly contained quinine, opium and alcohol and was advertised as giving men “an appetite like a cow-boy’s and the digestion of an ostrich.”
Pierce ran an opulent hotel for invalids, the first incarnation of which burnt down in 1881. The rebuilt hotel is said to have included among its guests the Sundance Kid and Etta Place in 1901.
His company, the World’s Dispensary Medical Association, gave away freebies such as calendars and notebooks to advertise the products, and Pierce’s own book, The People’s Common Sense Medical Adviser in Plain English, was a vehicle for recommending his own medicines. As well as the laboratory in Buffalo, the company had a British branch at Great Russell Street, London.
Dr Pierce was elected to the U.S. Congress in 1878 and served one term. After his death in 1914 his son, Dr Valentine Mott Pierce, continued the business and Pierce products were still available as late as the 1970s.https://thequackdoctor.com/index.php/dr-pierces-pleasant-pellets/
and more about the so-called 'doctor' (physician??):
https://www.csicop.org/sb/show/dr._pierce_medicine_for_weak_women
The man who became one of the greatest sellers of nostrums in America was Buffalo’s Ray Vaughn Pierce (1840–1914).
Pierce parlayed an off-beat medical degree into a quackery empire that included an Invalids’ Hotel. His World’s Dispensary Medical Association endlessly dispensed Dr. Pierce’s Golden Medical Discovery and a host of other elixirs, copies of his medical tome (The People’s Common Sense Medical Adviser [1888]), and a profusion of advertising giveaways. (See the Nickell Collection of Dr. R.V. Pierce Medical Artifacts, part of the New York state digital repository initiative, posted by CFI Libraries Director Tim Binga.1) -
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Ken Cook's Biography
by Iamallcool inhttps://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/watchtower-study-january-2019/new-member-governing-body/ .
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OrphanCrow
Was Ken Cook raised a Mormon and converted to JWs in his early 20s?
Someone posted that on a thread a while back. Can this be confirmed or is it one of those exJW urban legends?
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William Redding
by Bobcat inis anyone familiar with this person and his possible relationship with ctr or the wt?.
if you are wondering why i ask, take a look here and scroll down one page and start reading a little.. i could not find any mention of him in the wt online library.
i wonder if this is something barbara anderson would be familiar with?.
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OrphanCrow
In the publications, yes, Rutherford was in power when their vaccination views became known. That is only because the Golden Age magazine started in 1919. It doesn't mean that those ideas came out of the blue.
The fellas who were writing for the Golden Age were around long before Russell died. They would have had those views all along, long before Rutherford took power.
It appears like Redding would have had no problem rubbing elbows with those early Bible Students prior to Russell dying.
I was not making the claim that Russell got his ideas from Redding about 1914. I said they shared that notion and that Redding likely got it from Russell.
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William Redding
by Bobcat inis anyone familiar with this person and his possible relationship with ctr or the wt?.
if you are wondering why i ask, take a look here and scroll down one page and start reading a little.. i could not find any mention of him in the wt online library.
i wonder if this is something barbara anderson would be familiar with?.
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OrphanCrow
Bobcat, here is another book written by William Redding.
Our Near Future - a Message to all the Governments and People of the Earth 1896
He certainly agreed with Russell on several points (except for who Israel is/was - Redding was convinced that America was Israel).
In this book, published in 1894, The Millennial Kingdom A Book Of Surprises Containing Unusual Statements Supported By Positive Testimony, Redding does not name 1914/15 as a significant date.
However, Russell did use the date 1914 (around 1894? not sure when he actually named 1914) and later books by Redding, published in 1896, also name this date - Redding says "about 1915" rather than point directly to 1914 in his book Our Near Future. Redding also uses the date of "about 1915" in his book Mysteries Unveiled - The Hoary Past Comes Forward with Astonishing Messages for the Prophetic Future, published also in 1896. Redding believed the new millennium would begin about 1915.
At the back of Mysteries Unveiled, I found a list of books that Redding published with descriptions
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It appears like Russell and Redding shared more than a interest in pyramidology and bible prophecy. They shared beliefs about doctors, medicine and vaccinations.
Redding was writing about the evils of vaccinations long before the Golden Age magazine took a similar stand.
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Be Honest in All Things - New video exposes a problem with honesty at Bethel/Construction
by George One Time inon tv.jw.org kenneth cook jr. discusses how important it is to be honest when applying for special assignemts.
he mentions health and viewing pornography.
those who viewed pornography during the last year should not apply.
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OrphanCrow
Thanks for that background, jp.
I posted that link because I chuckle every time I hear something about the jwapp or pornography.
You had said:
When I was still attending meetings, I heard that Parodi had been "removed" as an elder
I wonder if that was about the same time he gave up his HLC duties. According to his linkedin profile, he served on the HLC for Orange County for 12 years - until 2005. And now, he owns Overton Security Services.
Check out the reviews for Overton on this site:
https://www.yelp.com/biz/overton-security-services-inc-fremont
I wonder where he finds his employees? (rhetorical question)
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William Redding
by Bobcat inis anyone familiar with this person and his possible relationship with ctr or the wt?.
if you are wondering why i ask, take a look here and scroll down one page and start reading a little.. i could not find any mention of him in the wt online library.
i wonder if this is something barbara anderson would be familiar with?.
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OrphanCrow
Hang on...I just found something that proves that CT Russell did, indeed, influence Redding's writing...gotta download and copy it.
I was wrong in the above post. Sorry. I spoke too soon.
Here we go.
This is a book Redding published in 1896.
https://ia800307.us.archive.org/2/items/mysteriesunveile00redd/mysteriesunveile00redd.pdf
An expert from his forwarding statement on page 16 of the pdf:
So. Yes. Redding was influenced by CT Russell, among others.
*you may find this interesting as well:
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Be Honest in All Things - New video exposes a problem with honesty at Bethel/Construction
by George One Time inon tv.jw.org kenneth cook jr. discusses how important it is to be honest when applying for special assignemts.
he mentions health and viewing pornography.
those who viewed pornography during the last year should not apply.
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OrphanCrow
Well, if this thread is about being honest...
If anyone is interested, just click on this link and type "pornography" into the page search function:
http://jwemployees.bravehost.com/NewsReports/2062.html
You will be able to read a pretty interesting account of how certain JWs are linked to the pornography industry (including the dude who developed the JWapp).
The opposite of honesty is hypocrisy.
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William Redding
by Bobcat inis anyone familiar with this person and his possible relationship with ctr or the wt?.
if you are wondering why i ask, take a look here and scroll down one page and start reading a little.. i could not find any mention of him in the wt online library.
i wonder if this is something barbara anderson would be familiar with?.
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OrphanCrow
Bobcat: But I was curious if William Redding gained his viewpoint from associating with the Russellites or if it was the other way around, or if the ideas he expressed were something more widely thought of at the time.
I don't think Redding had anything to do with the Russellites. End times prophecy was popular at the time and there are many authors who explored the subject, liberally mixing religious thought and politics. And something else that promoted the publication of these authors was the rise of the American publishing industry - lots of books and wanna-be-authors. Money to be made in the publishing world. Late 19th century America saw the rise of pulp fiction and religious/political books.
Here is a link to another book Redding wrote:
The Millennial Kingdom for the American People
You can download the book to read or read it online. I didn't read the whole book - I just skimmed through it and read bit and pieces. His intro in that book describes in detail an illness he suffered early in life and events following that.
I do not get the impression that Chuckie had anything to do with Redding's thoughts and ideology. Their theologies don't match at all.
Russell was a Zionist and espoused a dual covenant theology. He believed that once the Jews returned to the 'promised land', that Bible prophecy would have been fulfilled. Russell believed that the Jews' covenant with God was valid and binding and that the Gentiles' covenant was also binding - the Jews, according to Russell's would not need to convert to Christ.
In Redding's book about the coming millennium, he describes Bible prophecy in very different terms. He is anti-Semitic. And racist. Very much so. It was actually pretty hard to read some of the things he wrote. Basically, his premise is that America is God's chosen people - the Anglo-Saxon race is superior to every other race in the world, especially the Jews, and America is meant to rule the world - cause the Bible says so and he can prove it.
So, in my opinion, Redding and Russell did not cross paths. Redding was just another nut (ex-lawyer) who pulled stuff out his nether regions and mixed it with text from a dusty old book in order to feel important about himself and promote some sort of political agenda.
Hope that helps, Bobcat.
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Watchtower Tax Return
by Tahoe inphoto credit: dallas canadathis is from only one of the corporations and before the recent kh sell offs.
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OrphanCrow
Just thinking some more.
It makes sense now - this is part of charitable planning. It may be an estate. So what would happen with large endowments is the assets of the estates would be put into a private foundation with only the income from investments showing up in the WTBTS umbrella tax return. If a person leaves their estate to the org, it doesn't go directly to the org - the income from that money does.
