Posts by OrphanCrow

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Jehovah’s Witnesses Hunted Down And Deported

by Bangalore in

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jehovah’s witnesses hunted down and deported.. https://bitterwinter.org/jehovahs-witnesses-hunted-down-and-deported/.

OrphanCrow

I could be wrong but...I think it might be important to understand where this article originates. The story comes from the website "Bitter Winters" which was founded by Massimo Introvigne.

Introvigne also founded CENSUR (one of the abiding principles that CENSUR stands on is that brainwashing does not exist). And that "cults" are just "new religious movements". Introvigne's cronies include James T Richardson (lawyer), who has written supportive papers on the JWs and religious freedom.

I guess what I am saying is that the article comes from a biased position. Neither Introvigne or Richardson will acknowledge that these "new religious movements" abuse the human rights of their members - instead they are more concerned with the rights of the organizations that are in control of their members. Religious freedom, to them, seems to mean that the right of the religious organization comes first.

Introvigne proposes that a cult really isn't a cult unless it violates criminal law.

One of the papers that Introvigne has published is Xie Jiao as “Criminal Religious Movements”: A New Look at Cult. Controversies in China and Around the World (link downloads pdf)

Introvigne has some valuable research that is worth looking at, however, it might be prudent to be aware of his biases when reading his material: https://skent.ualberta.ca/current/massimo/

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Jehovah's Witness parents prevent blood transfusions for three children

by Not_Culty in

feb 26 2019 jehovah's witness parents prevent blood transfusions for three children.

the father said he was entitled to refuse to consent to the administering of a blood transfusion as he firmly believed that there were "medically acceptable alternatives that are as effective, if not more effective".. https://www.timeslive.co.za/news/south-africa/2019-02-26-jehovahs-witness-parents-prevent-blood-transfusions-for--three-children/.

OrphanCrow

Earnest Nigerian-based haemologist Marcus Asuquo said in his affidavit that there were other ways to treat sickle-cell anaemia. These include administration of oxygen, fluid management, electrolyte balance and use of folate.

Children deserve first line treatment, not alternative second line treatment.

It makes me sick when the WT/org uses babies and children to promote their alternative brand of medicine.

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What is Racially Derogatory Language

by barry in

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here is australia the race commissioner has claimed senator o'sullivan is in violation of racially derogatory language.

senator sullivan has said the biggest threat to biosecurity is ' some bloody old chinaman that brings in his favourite sausage down the front of his undies' chin tan said using the word chinaman is offensive.

makes you wonder is englishman or australian man or scotsman is also just as offensive.

OrphanCrow

Yes.

Really.

I thought your username implied you had been to university. Your curriculum must have been purely mathematically based. Didn't you take any history classes?

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What is Racially Derogatory Language

by barry in

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here is australia the race commissioner has claimed senator o'sullivan is in violation of racially derogatory language.

senator sullivan has said the biggest threat to biosecurity is ' some bloody old chinaman that brings in his favourite sausage down the front of his undies' chin tan said using the word chinaman is offensive.

makes you wonder is englishman or australian man or scotsman is also just as offensive.

OrphanCrow

Context is everything, LoveUni. You know that.

A non-Chinese person calling a Chinese person "chinaman" is as offensive as calling a black person a nigger.

How does Chinaman remove Chinese people's individuality any more than terms such as the Chinese or Han do?

I probably worded that wrong. I was trying to convey that the term removes their dignity rather than their individuality. Individuality is a foreign concept and best suited to North American cultures.

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What is Racially Derogatory Language

by barry in

jw
friends

here is australia the race commissioner has claimed senator o'sullivan is in violation of racially derogatory language.

senator sullivan has said the biggest threat to biosecurity is ' some bloody old chinaman that brings in his favourite sausage down the front of his undies' chin tan said using the word chinaman is offensive.

makes you wonder is englishman or australian man or scotsman is also just as offensive.

OrphanCrow

Barry: Makes you wonder is Englishman or Australian man or Scotsman is also just as offensive

That is not an accurate comparison. Comparable terms would be: Englandman, Scotlandman and Australiaman.

And to make it even more comparable, the Englandman, etc, would have to have been used to build railroads in China. The Englandman and the Scotlandman would have been the ones to get blown up with dynamite instead of the Chinese.

Yes, "Chinaman" is an offensive term. It is a stereotypical term that removes the Chinese people's individuality and designates them as a slave class for the Englandman and the Scotlandman and the Australiaman.

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Research Opportunity

by researchstudentsophie in

my name is sophie, and i am currently in the class ap research.

the aim of ap research is to have students enter into an academic conversation that exists about a specific topic or issue.

for my research project, i have chosen to evaluate the social stress levels, or sense of belonging, within members of the jehovah’s witnesses community, due to my personal background with the religion.. the following attachment will help me collect data for my research.

OrphanCrow

I agree with others who have pointed out that a statement like this:

"Because this sect exhibits mental illness 16 times more than the general population..."

needs to be backed up. I challenge you to find a credible source for your claim.

And...what does ethnicity have to do with this survey? or even...what does gender have to do with the questions you ask? How do these markers have anything to do with the "data" you are collecting?

And...how can you say that your survey measures what it is that you say you are measuring (levels of stress?) ?

I think your measurement scale needs some work. For this to be classified as "research data", you have to supply proof that this survey does, indeed, measure what you say it does.

Have you taken a research methodology class as part of your curriculum? If you have, I am sorely disappointed in your instructor.

Good luck in your courses.

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7 Jehovah’s Witnesses Brutally Tortured in Russia

by Drearyweather in

https://jw-russia.org/en/news/19021923-622.html.

at least seven of jehovah’s witnesses were subjected to torture—electric shocks, suffocation, and cruel beatings—on the first floor of the russian investigative committee’s building at ul.

ostrovskogo, d. 47, in surgut.

OrphanCrow

This is so sad.

Those poor Russian JWs think they are being loyal to God but all they are doing is being loyal to a man made organization.

So sad. What a waste.

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Secret book in RC Chruch CSA scandal revelaed

by careful in

worth a look:.

https://www.newsweek.com/catholic-church-admits-secret-rules-dealing-priest-sex-scandals-1335578.

it makes me wonder how many jw kids might be from fathers they do not really know as their true dads.

OrphanCrow

I think the OP is comparing apples to oranges. The situation with the RC concerns priests who have committed to celibacy. Not the same as the JW org.

Of course there will be unwanted pregnancies and subsequent adoptions within the JWs but to compare that to a religion that demands celibacy from their priests is a stretch.

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Secret book in RC Chruch CSA scandal revelaed

by careful in

worth a look:.

https://www.newsweek.com/catholic-church-admits-secret-rules-dealing-priest-sex-scandals-1335578.

it makes me wonder how many jw kids might be from fathers they do not really know as their true dads.

OrphanCrow

Careful: Wouldn't there be some cases where this was all kept hush-hush? Surely there must be some...

The JWs have their share of unwed mothers. Whether the unwanted pregnancy is the result of a wayward elder or simply the result of normal teenage hormones is likely not part of record.

However, there was a known "baby broker" who had arranged adoptions (some of them illegal) for many families and this likely includes some JWs. Look up Gerald Garner. A lawyer who had ties to Ron Lapin and who also was very involved with a California hospital that was owned by JWs.

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/375270001/gerald-garner-aka-goldberg-dr-ron-lapins-lawyer

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Film showing the pyramid beliefs of early JWs and the end coming in 1925

by Crazyguy2 in

https://youtu.be/s2snv8syqvu.

apparently the jws were still using russell’s pyramid measurements to push the end for 1925 too.

here is the film anyone know it they used pyramidolgy to push the other previous dates like 1918?

OrphanCrow

For history on the clip in the OP:

https://truthhistory.blogspot.com/search?q=Kinemo&m=1

And two more productions by Kinemo:

Palestine:

https://youtu.be/onCebb9bg6Q

Imperial Valley:

https://youtu.be/-zIClU8TQtM