Posts by OrphanCrow

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Jehovahs Witness new mother dies after she refuses to be given blood

by Laika in

just spotted this on the tube ride home.

sorry if it's been posted already, didn't see anything.

i've noticed the standard prints a few articles about jw scandals, i wonder if they have an exjw in their midst?.

OrphanCrow

If the Borg was sued by family members who lost someone over the blood issue, that would be 50 times bigger than the child abuse scandal they're going thru now. I guess it has happened, but with all the silly, frivolous lawsuits going on now, the husband has definite reason to sue in my opinion

I have no idea how many people have tried to launch legal action against the Watchtower protesting the death doctrine. However, the number of people who have died since the beginning of the blood ban is staggering. David Reed, in his book Blood on the Altar, repeatedly makes the point that, overall, the Watchtower is responsible for far more deaths than Jonesville or Waco.

It is difficult to estimate the total number of causalties, but, according to the Australian 'Blue Book', there is likely over 100,000 JWs who have sacrificed their lives since the ban's beginning in 1945:

http://www.anzca.edu.au/resources/college-publications/pdfs/ANZCA%20Blue%20Book%202011%20P9.pdf

It is estimated that approximately 1000 Jehovah’s Witnesses die annually worldwide and as many as 100,000 may
have died by abstaining from blood transfusions since the blood ban was introduced in 1945.

!000 JWs die annually from refusing blood.

It is surprising that so few make into the headlines.

The Watchtower Society is reluctant to release their 'pedo-list'. I wonder how tightly guarded their 'death book' is.

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Jehovahs Witness new mother dies after she refuses to be given blood

by Laika in

just spotted this on the tube ride home.

sorry if it's been posted already, didn't see anything.

i've noticed the standard prints a few articles about jw scandals, i wonder if they have an exjw in their midst?.

OrphanCrow

The good news, however, is that some JW mothers will accept blood.

http://www.manitobaphotos.com/theolib/downloads/Responses_by%20Pregnant_Jehovah 's_Witnesses_on_Health_Care_Proxies.pdf

*sorry...this link will probably have to be copied and pasted into your address bar...it doesn't seem to want to link the full title

OBJECTIVE: To review the treatment options presented on the New York State Health Care Proxy for Jehovah's Witnesses, which is signed by pregnant women when they present for care.

METHODS: Chart reviews were performed for all women who presented to labor and delivery at our institution from 1997 to 2002 and identified themselves as Jehovah's Witnesses. A patient was included in the study if a completed health care proxy was available in her chart. Data were derived from the health care proxy and from the Mount Sinai School of Medicine's Blood Product Checklist for Jehovah's Witness Patients. Variables of interest included age, race, parity, and antenatal and perinatal complications.

RESULTS: A total of 61 patients were identified. Of these, 39.3% agreed to accept a variety of donated blood products, 9.8% would accept donated packed red blood cells, and 50.1% would accept neither from a homologous donor. With respect to nonstored autologous blood, 55% of respondents would accept either intraoperative normovolemic hemodilution or transfusion of their own blood obtained by a cell salvage system. No significant differences in responses were noted for any of the above-mentioned variables.

CONCLUSION: This review refutes the commonly held belief that all Jehovah's Witnesses refuse to accept blood or any of its products. In this population of pregnant women, the majority were willing to accept some form of blood or blood products. This information can be used to help health care providers counsel a patient when she is initially faced with considering these issues and may help to remove the stigma of accepting one of the options.

from the pdf -

When a physician counsels a Jehovah’s Witness, there are several ethical and medicolegal considerations that should be explored. This review demonstrates that this is the very first query of its kind to look at what the actual responses of pregnant Jehovah’s Witnesses have been when faced with the realization they will have with a 2% risk of receiving transfusion. The knowledge that about 50% of patients in this series agreed to accept blood or some blood products may be of value to physicians in counseling other women who will soon undergo labor and delivery and may assist those patients in making their decisions. This review is not meant to coerce any patient’s decision, but it may help put some women at ease when they fell that they are deviating from their belief system. Such a patient is not alone in this circumstance, and that knowledge may make the difference between life and death when an unexpected hemorrhage occurs.

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Jehovahs Witness new mother dies after she refuses to be given blood

by Laika in

just spotted this on the tube ride home.

sorry if it's been posted already, didn't see anything.

i've noticed the standard prints a few articles about jw scandals, i wonder if they have an exjw in their midst?.

OrphanCrow

Women who are Jehovah’s witnesses are at a six times
increased risk for maternal death, at a 130 times increased risk for
maternal death because of major obstetric haemorrhage and at a 3.1
times increased risk for serious maternal morbidity because of
obstetric haemorrhage, compared to the general Dutch population.

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1471-0528.2009.02191.x/pdf

Being a woman and birthing babies is hard enough. And then throw in the death doctrine of the Watchtower Society on top of that - and you get a "six times increased risk of maternal death".

The JW cult should come with a black box warning.

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Blood, the US Army, the US Navy and the Watchtower Society

by OrphanCrow in

the watchtower society blood doctrine is intricately linked to clinical trials in blood technology.

the wts deliberately changes and manipulates the blood doctrine in order to fill the requirements for medical testing in the field of blood technology.

it has been happening since the start of the blood ban and has continued for the last 70 years, leaving untold numbers of dead and maimed jws in the wake of the societys quest for everlasting life here on earth.. .

OrphanCrow

Sorry about this...I missed a little step in the history of hemopure. The world of biotech moves so quickly it is hard to keep up with the bankruptcies and shifting corporate landscape attached to artifical blood.

http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapId=61346883

Company Overview

OPK Biotech, LLC was incorporated in 2009 and is based in Delaware. On April 25, 2014, an involuntary petition for liquidation under Chapter 7 was filed against OPK Biotech, LLC in the U.S. Bankruptcy Court for the District of Massachusetts. On May 20, 2014, the involuntary petition was approved by the Court.

And then...the Hemopure company (originally Biopure) became HB02 Therapeutics.

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Blood, the US Army, the US Navy and the Watchtower Society

by OrphanCrow in

the watchtower society blood doctrine is intricately linked to clinical trials in blood technology.

the wts deliberately changes and manipulates the blood doctrine in order to fill the requirements for medical testing in the field of blood technology.

it has been happening since the start of the blood ban and has continued for the last 70 years, leaving untold numbers of dead and maimed jws in the wake of the societys quest for everlasting life here on earth.. .

OrphanCrow

In developed societies it would be highly unethical and illegal for a medical doctor to administer experimental products to a patient without informing the patient of this fact

Yes.

And that is why many clinical trials are conducted in devloping countries - it is easier to get around developed countries regulations. However, there are issues in conducting trials in developing countries and the FDA document covers those issues in a discussion starting on page 273 of that document.

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Blood, the US Army, the US Navy and the Watchtower Society

by OrphanCrow in

the watchtower society blood doctrine is intricately linked to clinical trials in blood technology.

the wts deliberately changes and manipulates the blood doctrine in order to fill the requirements for medical testing in the field of blood technology.

it has been happening since the start of the blood ban and has continued for the last 70 years, leaving untold numbers of dead and maimed jws in the wake of the societys quest for everlasting life here on earth.. .

OrphanCrow

Some more info about hemopure:

http://hbo2therapeutics.com/overview/manufacturing.php

HbO 2 Therapeutics' research and development laboratories, state-of-the-art bioprocessing, and purification facility are located in Souderton, Pennsylvania.

SOURCE OF HEMOGLOBIN

The active biological component in Hemopure® is polymerized bovine hemoglobin. Its manufacture consists of hemoglobin purification, chemical polymerization, and final packaging by sterile filtration. The Company collects fresh whole bovine blood from certified managed herds less than 30 months of age and includes documentation of the animal’s country of origin (USA) and their health monitoring. The program is under the supervision of a qualified veterinarian. Any animals sick or medically treated within 60 days before slaughter are not eligible for shipment and collection. Finally, there is a post-mortem inspection of each animal by a qualified US Department of Agriculture (USDA) inspector.

MANUFACTURING PROCESS

Manufacture of the products occurs in four major steps: first, bovine blood is collected and processed to remove plasma; second, the hemoglobin protein is removed from then red blood cells; third, the hemoglobin is purified of other red cell proteins; and fourth, the purified hemoglobin is stabilized by the addition of a cross-linking agent to form hemoglobin polymers, or proteins bound together. For the human product, an additional filtering step removes the unbound hemoglobin molecules. For both products, the polymers are then placed in a solution suitable for infusion. Finally, the products are put through sterilizing filters and into sterile bags.

The company's facilities have a validated process with an annual production capacity of 100,000 hemoglobin glutamer-250 (bovine) (HBOC-201) units (250 ml/unit) or approximately 350,000 Oxyglobin® units (125 ml/unit) or 700,000 of the smaller Oxyglobin® units (60 ml/unit), or any combination thereof. Much of the engineering and design has been completed for a potential future manufacturing facility designed to produce 500,000 HBOC-201 units per year.

VALIDATION AND PRODUCT SAFETY

The process has been validated, in accordance with regulatory agency guidelines, to remove potential pathogens in the raw material. Examples of pathogens include bacteria, viruses, such as those leading to hepatitis and AIDS, and the transmissible spongiform encephalopathy (TSE) agents that cause rare neurological disorders, such as "mad cow disease" and its human equivalent.

Health and regulatory authorities have given guidance directed at three factors to control these diseases: source of animals, nature of tissue used and manufacturing process. These three factors are addressed by supplier contracts that maintain traceable records on animal origin, health, feed and care, and by the validated blood collection and manufacturing processes.

Safety assurance is provided by:

Managed herds in which the animals' country of origin, feed, age and  health are monitored;

Clearance studies that have demonstrated that our manufacturing process removes or inactivates potential pathogens;

External experts' analyses of the capability of our process to remove or inactivate pathogens;

Adherence with worldwide industry and regulatory standards;

Approval of our products and the process to manufacture them by multiple regulatory agencies.

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Blood, the US Army, the US Navy and the Watchtower Society

by OrphanCrow in

the watchtower society blood doctrine is intricately linked to clinical trials in blood technology.

the wts deliberately changes and manipulates the blood doctrine in order to fill the requirements for medical testing in the field of blood technology.

it has been happening since the start of the blood ban and has continued for the last 70 years, leaving untold numbers of dead and maimed jws in the wake of the societys quest for everlasting life here on earth.. .

OrphanCrow

And, in case anyone is interested, OPK Biotech, the Russian firm that picked up Biopure after it went bankrupt, has now been bought out by a US company:

August, 2014

HbO 2 Therapeutics LLC has acquired the manufacturing and intellectual property assets of OPK Biotech LLC. The Company is headquartered 35 miles north of Philadelphia in Souderton, Pennsylvania.

http://hbo2therapeutics.com/

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Blood, the US Army, the US Navy and the Watchtower Society

by OrphanCrow in

the watchtower society blood doctrine is intricately linked to clinical trials in blood technology.

the wts deliberately changes and manipulates the blood doctrine in order to fill the requirements for medical testing in the field of blood technology.

it has been happening since the start of the blood ban and has continued for the last 70 years, leaving untold numbers of dead and maimed jws in the wake of the societys quest for everlasting life here on earth.. .

OrphanCrow

Zeb, you had asked:

Hemopure? Correct me please; isnt this a derivative or bovine blood?

For a bit more information about what Hemopure is and how it is made:

http://www.rsc.org/chemistryworld/Issues/2010/October/ArtificialBlood.asp

To make Hemopure 'we take bovine blood and, using filtration and chromatography, purify the haemoglobin so it is 99.9 per cent pure protein,' explains Light. But sadly it isn't as simple as just dissolving the haemoglobin in a fluid and transfusing it into the patient. Native haemoglobin is tetrameric and dissociates into dimers in the body that are excreted through the kidneys with a half life of about 30 minutes. 'Which is not a very effective therapy,' Light points out. 'You have to modify the haemoglobin so it doesn't dissociate.'

A number of different approaches have been taken to stop this dissociation. 'What we do is polymerise with glutaraldehyde [pentane-1,5-dial] to make large polymers of haemoglobin that have a half life of between 18 and 24 hours in the body,' Light says.

The polymerised haemoglobin is then put into a physiological buffer, which contains salts and lactates to maintain heart function. At this stage the product still contains about 30 per cent stabilised haemoglobin tetramers - and while they may not dissociate in this form, they are still problematic because they can enter blood vessel walls and scavenge nitric oxide. NO naturally causes the walls of blood vessels to relax, so if too much NO is scavenged, relaxation is prevented, making it more difficult for blood to flow, resulting in an increase in blood pressure. A final clean up stage removes most of the tetramer haemoglobin, significantly reducing the blood pressure effect, explains Light.

Once transfused into the body, polymerised haemoglobin works in the same way as a red blood cell: it binds to oxygen in the lungs, carries it to the appropriate site in the body and then releases it. What makes it different to red blood cells is that the haemoglobin is free in the plasma - rather than bound within the cell.

The advantage of the haemoglobin being in the plasma is that the oxygen it carries is closer to the sides of blood vessels. Oxygen binding and release in the plasma is more efficient than in the red cell, says Light, so Hemopure releases oxygen more quickly than donor blood once it gets to the target tissue. At end of its life, Hemopure is broken down by the normal biological pathway for haemoglobin.

Hemopure is currently approved for use in South Africa, and has undergone some early clinical trials in the US. Production stopped, however, when Biopure went bankrupt - and OPK Biotech is currently focusing on getting production back online. Referring to the FDA's concerns over these products, Light predicts that they will be approved overseas before approval in the US. The firm's parent company, OPK, is Russian and, according to Light, 'OPK have a great interest in bringing this product to Russia.'

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Jehovah's Witnesses Ban upheld by Supreme Court.-TASS reports. Are Russian JWs suffering as a result of Watchtower Governing Body Hate Rants?

by Balaamsass2 in

tass news:.

russias supreme court rules jehovah's witnesses from samara extremist organizationrussia.

november 13, 20:58 utc+3 .

OrphanCrow

other countries where they don't have the same freedoms and protections.

Simon, I think the idea of freedom and protection is different for an organization than it is for individuals.

In Russia, the courts are saying that the organization of the Watchtower Society infringes on individual rights and freedoms. That is why they are not being accepted as a religion in Russia. The Watchtower wants freedom and protection at the expense of its members and Russia recognizes that.

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Jehovah's Witnesses Ban upheld by Supreme Court.-TASS reports. Are Russian JWs suffering as a result of Watchtower Governing Body Hate Rants?

by Balaamsass2 in

tass news:.

russias supreme court rules jehovah's witnesses from samara extremist organizationrussia.

november 13, 20:58 utc+3 .

OrphanCrow

I am sorry, Balaamsass, that was rude of me. I didn't answer your question.

Are Russian JWs suffering as a result of Watchtower Governing Body Hate Rants?

Yes. They are.

According to the Russian court document, Russia is actually saying that they are trying to protect all Russian people from a dangerous organization. Russia sees the Russian JWs as victims of the Watchtower Society who have had their individual rights and freedoms violated by the Society's restrictive policies.

So, yes, the Watchtower Society is responsible for the Russian people, who they have sucked into their organization, suffering.

And the Russian Supreme Court is trying to do something about it.