i've been thinking this for a while.
even before the arc scandal.
it seems no matter what, the org.
finkelstein: For decades this organization has been doing this very thing and even pointed its finger at the Catholics for doing so.
They still are. Note fisherman's last post.
Rather than address a defect in the JW's, he conveniently gave a link to the Catholic Church's issues.
"See? Look at them!"
i've been thinking this for a while.
even before the arc scandal.
it seems no matter what, the org.
You are using deflection, fisherguy.
Address the way that JWs (and you) regard child abuse a "sin" instead of a crime. That is what my post was about.
i've been thinking this for a while.
even before the arc scandal.
it seems no matter what, the org.
tor1500:
I hope you get a chance to read my posts, if you have the time.I kind of like them. You see I'm a JW...
Ah...it must be cold where you are.
Be sure you enter your hours, dear.
church elder who sexually abused vulnerable children was invited to speak at first victim’s wedding.
a church elder who sexually abused vulnerable children was invited to speak at his first victim’s wedding, a court heard.. a court was told harry holt, 71, now of rutland street, nelson, went on to attack seven more girls as young as nine after the jehovah’s witnesses failed to report him to police.when the matter was raised, a local beat officer advised parents to ‘just keep your children away from him’, the court heard.. holt is facing a lengthy prison sentence after being convicted of attacks against eight girls in scotland dating back over 40 years.. .
full article at link..
Yeah, I laugh every time another article comes out about a JW being a pedophile and the 'official' response is always the same lying rhetoric. It reminds me of asking a kid if they ate the last piece of cake and they say "no" when they have chocolate icing all over their face.JWGoneBad:
A church spokesman said: “Jehovah’s Witnesses abhor child abuse and view it as both a despicable crime and a sin. “Anyone who commits the sin of child abuse faces expulsion from the congregation and any suggestion that Jehovah’s Witnesses cover up child abuse is false.”
church elder who sexually abused vulnerable children was invited to speak at first victim’s wedding.
a church elder who sexually abused vulnerable children was invited to speak at his first victim’s wedding, a court heard.. a court was told harry holt, 71, now of rutland street, nelson, went on to attack seven more girls as young as nine after the jehovah’s witnesses failed to report him to police.when the matter was raised, a local beat officer advised parents to ‘just keep your children away from him’, the court heard.. holt is facing a lengthy prison sentence after being convicted of attacks against eight girls in scotland dating back over 40 years.. .
full article at link..
Church elder who sexually abused vulnerable children was invited to speak at first victim’s wedding
A CHURCH elder who sexually abused vulnerable children was invited to speak at his first victim’s wedding, a court heard.
A court was told Harry Holt, 71, now of Rutland Street, Nelson, went on to attack seven more girls as young as nine after the Jehovah’s Witnesses failed to report him to police.
When the matter was raised, a local beat officer advised parents to ‘just keep your children away from him’, the court heard.Holt is facing a lengthy prison sentence after being convicted of attacks against eight girls in Scotland dating back over 40 years.
Full article at link.
i've been thinking this for a while.
even before the arc scandal.
it seems no matter what, the org.
fisherman: ...the problem with them was not the parishioners confessing sins but church minsters doing the crimes. With the JW it is about reporting sinners to the police.
And therein lies the fundamental problem.
When you speak of the Catholic priests you call them "ministers doing the crime".
Yet, when you speak of JWs, all of a sudden those "crimes" become "sins".
Here, let's fix that for you:
"With the JW it is about reporting criminals to the police."
i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.
im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?
the the bible is word?
formerbrother: its Jehovah who wrote the bible
Hahaha! I bet you bought one of these bibbles:
i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.
im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?
the the bible is word?
PS, Most people dont know, but JWs always get the very best medical treatment. If medical staff know they absolutely can not transfuse blood, then they have to give the very best medical care from the start.
Watchtower propaganda.
What a load of bullshit. So f***ing high that it stinks to high heaven.
If that were the case, then why has over 100,000 JWs died from refusing blood??????
If you call being a guinea pig for bloodless medicine "getting the best treatment"...then go ahead, die for the profit of the bloodless medicine industry. Lay your babies on the altar of the blood god Jehovah.
since the watchtowers' lawyers have (a) failed to make any recommendations to the arc that would bring the watchtower up to date with "best practices and procedures" (b) have failed to submit a proposal for victim restitution (c) have failed to secure funding for a redress scheme and (d) have completely dismissed all the arcs' findings - what's the royal commission's next course of action?.
i see two possibilities:.
) negotiate a settlement with the watchtower.
Jeremiah: The only hope for new converts is in third world countries without ready access to the internet. However, without new converts in advanced countries, the money will dry up.
Unless, of course, the WTBS gets government aid for all their wonderful work in language revitalization and translation and such...you know...for literacy programs and all that. JWs who are in third world and developing countries will apply for government aid to fund their 'literacy' programs (it is already happening in Africa).
New converts will happen in developed countries as well. Maybe slower, but they will be there. Besides, the JWs with money will continue to 'contribute' to ensure that the WTS teaches the congregants in the 'correct' way to live their lives (and die)...the way that will profit the wealthy JWs.
since the watchtowers' lawyers have (a) failed to make any recommendations to the arc that would bring the watchtower up to date with "best practices and procedures" (b) have failed to submit a proposal for victim restitution (c) have failed to secure funding for a redress scheme and (d) have completely dismissed all the arcs' findings - what's the royal commission's next course of action?.
i see two possibilities:.
) negotiate a settlement with the watchtower.
talesin: shepherdless - we are Commonwealth cousins, and I figured (from what I've read) that the ARC is similar to our system,.There are similarities between Canada and Australia. The process that I am thinking of in Canada that is somewhat similar to the ARC is the work that has been done, and is being done, to address the historical abuse of indigenous people in Canada.
The Royal Commission on Aboriginal Peoples was launched in 1991 and the report released in 1996.
This was followed by an independent class action lawsuit by residential school survivors against the Government of Canada. Merchant Law Group negotiated the residential school payments and a judgment was issued against the Government of Canada in 2005 (court authorized notice).
In December 2015, the Truth Reconciliation Report was released after years in the making. The TRC took seven years - it was established in 2008.
And the newest inquiry to finally, finally begin to get underway, is an inquiry into Missing and Murdered Indigenous Women and Girls in Canada.
Also, in Canada, punitive damages are hard to win, and amounts awarded are pretty much infinitesimal compared to the ones in the USA.I know people who received varying amounts from the class action lawsuit launched by the Merchant Law Group. The lowest individual payment, that I have heard of, was $10,000 and the highest was $100,000.
