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  Should I get babtized?

  by BlackWolf in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i know this sounds like a ridiculous question but i was talking with my mom in the car today and of course we got on the topic of getting babtized again.

  she told me that jehovah holds me accountable for my sins regardless of wether i am babtized or not so i have no reason to be holding back because it won't change anything.

  my parents are the type of super strict jw who will shun you just for not being a witness.

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  Blackwolf: She told me that Jehovah holds me accountable for my sins regardless of wether I am babtized or not so I have no reason to be holding back because it won't change anything.

  I don't think your mother has the WT doctrine down correctly. It has been a loooong time since I was a JW, but, back in the day....what she told you would be incorrect.

  The teaching at the time that I was active was that the ones held accountable for the sins of an unbaptized minor are the parents.

  Children are judged upon the sins of the mother and father. It is your mother that has to watch herself, not you. She is responsible for your 'salvation' based upon her behaviour, not yours.

  She wants you to get baptized to relieve herself of that responsibilty.

  Baptism is not the solution to loneliness but rather, it is the path to permanent isolation.

  Hang in there, Blackwolf....just a couple more years and the world is yours. It is just waiting for you to join it.

  :)
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  WATCHTOWER SCAM? WTWR NYSE

  by biblexaminer in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  in 2009, a new company, traded on the new york stock exchange was initiated.. watchtower inc. wtwr.

  corporate headquarters.

  100 henry streetbrooklyn, new york 11201united states.

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  sparrowdown: I am finding threads leading back to WT that are just as someone else has said - bizarre.

  Yes, some of the connections are bizarre.

  When I was exploring down one rabbit hole, I discovered a company owned by a JW -Guenther Reibling (Lorenz's brother) - that, like the company under discussion in this thread, was also concerned with the biofuel market.

  Funny thing is, that company morphed into a marijuana growing company - still owned by Reibling.

  "Biofuel" --->>> marijuana.

  Makes sense. ;)
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  WATCHTOWER SCAM? WTWR NYSE

  by biblexaminer in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  in 2009, a new company, traded on the new york stock exchange was initiated.. watchtower inc. wtwr.

  corporate headquarters.

  100 henry streetbrooklyn, new york 11201united states.

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  mynameislame: Note their web page is http://watchtowerdocuments.org/ which appears to be an exjw site?

  • I am not sure that the site you link to is all that reliable.

    Watchtowerdocuments.org is Barbara Anderson's site.

  Phone number search turns up
  St George Hotel
  100 Henry St
  Brooklyn, NY 11201

  Yes. If you refer back to the fourth post on this thread, biblexaminer has already phoned them.
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  Freddy Franz, One of the smartest men of his day????

  by DwainBowman in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  back in my teen years this story swept through jw land, that according to, the guinness book of records , freddy franz, was listed as one of the seven, most intelligent , men in the world.

  dose anyone else remember this?

  i remember trying to look it up, but never found anything in print, and ii point that out once or twice , and was told a co, had told about it, and he wouldn't lie!

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  "...according to, The GuinnessBook of Records , Freddy Franz, was listed as one of the seven, most intelligent , men in the world."

  
  
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  This Website Was Mentioned By The Governing Body

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  okay, so at the "imitate their faith" ca there was a special speaker from the gb.

  and he started discussing psalms 1:1 and how we today could "sit in the seat of scoffers".

  he then mentioned that many bros. and sisters criticize the org and think they are so smart by researching online.

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  JW elder in Oklahoma, USA...now in JAIL!

  by Sugar Shane in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  ronald lawrence has been in the news before, though it was believed that the statute of limitations would keep him from being charged as a criminal.

  i stumbled across this the other day.

  trey bundy did a report on one of ronald's victims, but it looks as though more have stepped forward since.

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  Dwain: New news item!!!! This is from today! Feb 15th 2016

  That article was "Published On: Sat, Feb 8th, 2014".

  It might be showing up on your browser in 'todays' paper', but it comes from archives. I have made that mistake in the past, too.
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  WATCHTOWER SCAM? WTWR NYSE

  by biblexaminer in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  in 2009, a new company, traded on the new york stock exchange was initiated.. watchtower inc. wtwr.

  corporate headquarters.

  100 henry streetbrooklyn, new york 11201united states.

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  Sparky, I get a 404 error from your link.
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  WATCHTOWER SCAM? WTWR NYSE

  by biblexaminer in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  in 2009, a new company, traded on the new york stock exchange was initiated.. watchtower inc. wtwr.

  corporate headquarters.

  100 henry streetbrooklyn, new york 11201united states.

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  biblexaminer: I found out more. I called the phone number.

  I am impressed with your 'on the ground' research. Well done.

  We can cruise around the internet all we like but there are some things that just aren't online and it takes 'hard' research to get answers sometimes.
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  WATCHTOWER SCAM? WTWR NYSE

  by biblexaminer in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  in 2009, a new company, traded on the new york stock exchange was initiated.. watchtower inc. wtwr.

  corporate headquarters.

  100 henry streetbrooklyn, new york 11201united states.

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  OrphanCrow

  Biblexaminer, this thread might help you out:

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/279207/watchtower-inc-100-henry-street-links-many-other-suspect-companies?page=1

  and this one:

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/207251/whats-going-on-100-henry-street?page=1&size=20
  
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  What is the alternative to JW?

  by Formerbrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.

  im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?

  the the bible is word?

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  Acts: Then I would have to wonder why you are here on a religious forum - but I think the answer is evident

  Of course it is evident.

  There are many members here who are EX Jws. Myself included.

  Stay with your lack of belief - I won't try to change you. Nevertheless, intransigence hinders so very much of ones potential.

  Ah...a sophisticated (and arrogant) putdown.