when i grew up in the 1980's -90's it was rare to see a faithful slaves picture in 10 years of watchtowers.
everything was anonymous.
no one really knew there names except for the "holy oricle" fred franz.. now they are full on t.v stars with there own show.
Billy: ...the GB can expect to be the first ones trucked off to the concentration camps when their new headquarters will be turned into President Trump's rural retreat! LOL.
Nah. That won't happen. If Trump gets in, he will be their guest at their compound. Don't forget that the GB does business with Trump's son-in-law - Jared Kushner.
If Trump gets in, the GB will be lobbying to make the JWs the official American religion.
with the recent thread about wts buying materials for their new warwick hq in china, i want to refer to another story some 10 years ago.. there was then a china government visit to the usa.
they paid a visit to wts in brooklyn and did in the aftermath a return visit to china for the sake of lean production management.. wts learned the china government producing lean, and they got something in return for that.. what they got, i don't know.
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The WT's lips are moving again.
"We are no part of this world and we have no part of worldly governments"
Right....but it is fine for the big guys to rub shoulders with those in power.
Hypocrites. All of them.
The WT visit with Chinese officials reminds me of their hobnobbing with Mugawbe and his goons from Zimbabwe.
*Gorbatchov, do you have a reference for this?
someone asked for a second source on this, so i'm putting this out there to those who may have visited the new wt hq lately and know it to be true.
i had read from others on the ex-jw subreddit that had taken a tour recently at wt hq, that they had been shown photos of a mountain in china, and told that this is where all of the granite is being mined from and shipped over to new york to use at the site of the new wt hq.
apparently, it was cheaper for them to do this and have the local brothers in china mine it, then having to by tons upon tons of granite here in the usa, even wholesale.
thegirlnextdoor: WT could easily set themselves up as a vendor
The bill of ladings, that I linked to, show that the WT is buying directly from a Chinese company.
someone asked for a second source on this, so i'm putting this out there to those who may have visited the new wt hq lately and know it to be true.
i had read from others on the ex-jw subreddit that had taken a tour recently at wt hq, that they had been shown photos of a mountain in china, and told that this is where all of the granite is being mined from and shipped over to new york to use at the site of the new wt hq.
apparently, it was cheaper for them to do this and have the local brothers in china mine it, then having to by tons upon tons of granite here in the usa, even wholesale.
You are welcome, CC. :)
Wing Commander, here is a link with a history of Best Cheer back to 1994. They seem to be a well established company with international connections.
someone asked for a second source on this, so i'm putting this out there to those who may have visited the new wt hq lately and know it to be true.
i had read from others on the ex-jw subreddit that had taken a tour recently at wt hq, that they had been shown photos of a mountain in china, and told that this is where all of the granite is being mined from and shipped over to new york to use at the site of the new wt hq.
apparently, it was cheaper for them to do this and have the local brothers in china mine it, then having to by tons upon tons of granite here in the usa, even wholesale.
Yes, Finkelstein, it is sort of smelly.
It reminds me of kids in the sandbox bragging about all the stuff their dad can do. Childish exaggeration with a childlike mind that will believe anything their parent tells them.
someone asked for a second source on this, so i'm putting this out there to those who may have visited the new wt hq lately and know it to be true.
i had read from others on the ex-jw subreddit that had taken a tour recently at wt hq, that they had been shown photos of a mountain in china, and told that this is where all of the granite is being mined from and shipped over to new york to use at the site of the new wt hq.
apparently, it was cheaper for them to do this and have the local brothers in china mine it, then having to by tons upon tons of granite here in the usa, even wholesale.
WC: Does anyone know if WT bought the company listed above, or if it is merely a "shell company" set up to fool the Chinese government?
The company was established in 1986 but I have not been able to find any ownership history. Probably won't. And, a company of that scope would have lots of private investors. Difficult to know the connections if there are any. However, the WT has a reputation for dealing with "insiders" whenever possible.
someone asked for a second source on this, so i'm putting this out there to those who may have visited the new wt hq lately and know it to be true.
i had read from others on the ex-jw subreddit that had taken a tour recently at wt hq, that they had been shown photos of a mountain in china, and told that this is where all of the granite is being mined from and shipped over to new york to use at the site of the new wt hq.
apparently, it was cheaper for them to do this and have the local brothers in china mine it, then having to by tons upon tons of granite here in the usa, even wholesale.
The panjiva website shows "7" shipments to the WT. Not sure how many were for granite - one is from a cabinetry company. Maybe the literature carts.
someone asked for a second source on this, so i'm putting this out there to those who may have visited the new wt hq lately and know it to be true.
i had read from others on the ex-jw subreddit that had taken a tour recently at wt hq, that they had been shown photos of a mountain in china, and told that this is where all of the granite is being mined from and shipped over to new york to use at the site of the new wt hq.
apparently, it was cheaper for them to do this and have the local brothers in china mine it, then having to by tons upon tons of granite here in the usa, even wholesale.
Oops...I think I linked to the wrong bill of lading.
This one is for granite:
https://panjiva.com/Rongcheng-Best-Cheer-Granite-Co-Lt/27773970
and another one:
https://www.importgenius.com/suppliers/rongcheng-best-cheer-granite-co-lt
someone asked for a second source on this, so i'm putting this out there to those who may have visited the new wt hq lately and know it to be true.
i had read from others on the ex-jw subreddit that had taken a tour recently at wt hq, that they had been shown photos of a mountain in china, and told that this is where all of the granite is being mined from and shipped over to new york to use at the site of the new wt hq.
apparently, it was cheaper for them to do this and have the local brothers in china mine it, then having to by tons upon tons of granite here in the usa, even wholesale.
The Watchtower is buying granite from Rongcheng Best Cheer Granite Co. in Dongguan China.
2015 bill of lading at this link https://panjiva.com/Watchtower-Bible-And-Tract-Society/32439558
someone asked for a second source on this, so i'm putting this out there to those who may have visited the new wt hq lately and know it to be true.
i had read from others on the ex-jw subreddit that had taken a tour recently at wt hq, that they had been shown photos of a mountain in china, and told that this is where all of the granite is being mined from and shipped over to new york to use at the site of the new wt hq.
apparently, it was cheaper for them to do this and have the local brothers in china mine it, then having to by tons upon tons of granite here in the usa, even wholesale.
I find it entirely plausible that the WT is involved in granite mining in China. Maybe they haven't bought a whole mountain, but it wouldn't surprise me if they are using granite from mines that the WT is either investing in themselves or, as per usual....probably the money bag men who pull the WT's strings have ownership in Chinese mining projects.
I wonder what the quality of stone is that they are getting.
http://solidsurfacealliance.org/ss-better-than-granite6.html
Many countries, alarmed by the surge in granite use in homes, have sponsored
studies into the health aspects of granite, mostly radiation issues and Radon
gas exhalation rates. China was so concerned with the radiation levels of
granite that they started classifying and regulating it into four levels, with only
the safest level being suitable for use in Chinese dwellings. Silicosis is a well
studied problem from the last century, once almost eradicated as an industrial
disease, yet making a comeback due to the boom in granite countertop
fabrication.
The lower prices of exported granite from China is mostly due to the banning of
the three lower levels from being used inside Chinese dwellings, yet the
regulations do not prohibit export.
And, apparently injury to workers is the biggest problem that granite mining faces:
By far the worst problem caused by the large slab sizes is the injury and
accidental death of workers. A full size granite slab will weigh over one
thousand pounds, enough to crush a man, even amputate limbs. Slabs are
handled with slab clamps which grab the center of the sheet. If the slab breaks,
the suddenly unbalanced slab can easily crush feet and hands, even swinging
out of control to kill workers. A-frame failures have killed many workers, falling
like dominoes, dozens even hundreds of slabs collapsing in some cases.
