OrphanCrow

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  I conclude evolution is guided

  by KateWild in

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  your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.

  k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.

  in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.

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  ruby: an emphais on facts can be as unfactual as non facts sometimes and peeps who like to tell other people they are talking nonsense are pretty much often talking nonsense themselves

  
  
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  Exit therapist

  by Beachlover in

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  i am having quite a bit of trouble leaving and fading.

  does anyone have recommendations of an exit therapist?

  it doesn't matter where they are located, i need to get out physically, mentally, and emotionally.

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  Giordano: While you are searching for one may I direct your attention to Eric Hoffer who wrote The True Believer. While he never mentions the WTBTS he defines similar groups in broad strokes by describing what they try to do to their followers.

  Excellent book

  Hoffer identifies the 'stripping away of self' as a primary feature of cult/mass movement techniques that are employed to capture followers. A follower becomes a true believer by disengaging from their own, personal identity, and replacing that with the cult's identity

  It is the loss of self that keeps people captive inside ideological groups and it is the discovery of self that is the antidote

  That is why this comment is inappropriate and not helpful:

  perry: Thomas saith unto him, ... how can we know the way? Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

  Perry, Beachlover needs to find herself, not some imaginary father in the sky

  The way to freedom is by developing a sense of self, not by remaining dependent upon a mythical existence in some imaginary future or an imaginary being. The more a person is comfortable with their own being, dependence upon others' ideology becomes redundant.

  Good luck, beachlover. You can do this
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  Request For Awake 1946 3/27 page 16 - Explanation of 1Tim 6:15-16

  by Bobcat in

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  2. bible

  i am endeavoring to find a digital copy of the 1946 awake (consolation?

  ) issue 3/27 page 16.

  ("3/27" was how the wt pubs index had it.).

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  You are welcome Bobcat

  If the archive websites you have used before are not available, you might find this site useful:

  http://wtarchive.svhelden.info/
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  Request For Awake 1946 3/27 page 16 - Explanation of 1Tim 6:15-16

  by Bobcat in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i am endeavoring to find a digital copy of the 1946 awake (consolation?

  ) issue 3/27 page 16.

  ("3/27" was how the wt pubs index had it.).

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  OrphanCrow

  The quote you need is in the first issue in this pdf - the March 27 issue
  

  http://wtarchive.svhelden.info/archive/en/Consolation/g1946_consolation.pdf

  The magazine changed names in August 1946
  
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  JW and the Sabbath

  by Andromeda in

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  hello brothers and sisters and truth seekers,.

  i am an active jehovah's witness.

  i don't believe in 1914 and i'm tototally against their way of dealing with abuse cases.

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  babygirl30: This whole conv sounds very JWish! LOL

  Someone lays out all their ideas on a topic about a doctrine, they claim to have 'authority' to know the background of said doctrine, and once their expertise/authority is QUESTIONED - they immediately get defensive, yet never provide any proof or specifics of their 'authority', and then finally sum the whole conversation by calling the questioner childish or stupid - and lastly demand to be 'left alone'.
  

  You're right, babygirl. And it isn't just the JWs who use this MO...it is a favorite technique adopted by fundamental believers that cannot defend their beliefs

  And the typical comeback that they fall back on "...oh, so you think you are so smart because you are educated?" And what they really mean is this: "I feel ignorant when I am around people who know more than me. I will be perceived as stupid. Therefore, God. And damn all you educated smart ones to eternal damnation."
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  JW and the Sabbath

  by Andromeda in

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  hello brothers and sisters and truth seekers,.

  i am an active jehovah's witness.

  i don't believe in 1914 and i'm tototally against their way of dealing with abuse cases.

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  Andro: I didn't know there were lie detectors here

  heehee

  Now you know
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  JW and the Sabbath

  by Andromeda in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hello brothers and sisters and truth seekers,.

  i am an active jehovah's witness.

  i don't believe in 1914 and i'm tototally against their way of dealing with abuse cases.

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  andro: Orphancrow don't put words in my mouth. I didn't say you were, I said people believe that what they were told in school is the truth and that everyone who questions it seems ignorant.

  They are your words. they came from your mouth

  You said "you all". You didn't say "people"

  "... you all think that what you were told in schoolis the truth

  And you didn't say "seems" ignorant, you said "...and everyone else who questions it , is ignorant."

  *oops...forgot to ask something...you had said "My stance on blood is mainly because of God but having experienced what I have, it is both." So...would you accept artificial blood? How does that work according to the bible?

  
  
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  JW and the Sabbath

  by Andromeda in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hello brothers and sisters and truth seekers,.

  i am an active jehovah's witness.

  i don't believe in 1914 and i'm tototally against their way of dealing with abuse cases.

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  andro: I repeat the only reason I mention them is because you all think that what you were told in schoolis the truth and everyone else who questions it , is ignorant.

  Please elaborate on what you think I have had for schooling and why that has made me ignorant

  if you are going back to the blood issue that's not a problem

  Nope...not going back to the "blood issue"...you are the one bringing it up. But...seeing as you have...is your reason for refusing blood a biblical one or a medical one?
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  JW and the Sabbath

  by Andromeda in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hello brothers and sisters and truth seekers,.

  i am an active jehovah's witness.

  i don't believe in 1914 and i'm tototally against their way of dealing with abuse cases.

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  andro: you may be mind blown to find out that what you think you know might not be even the truth.

  We're waitin' on ya...
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  I heard that Watchtower get Government funding

  by Mozzie in

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  2. scandals

  being a recognized religion here in australia i heard they get government funding.....if this is true, i don;t see why as they seem to do okay funding themselves .

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  Yes, they get government grants.

  The WTS received a nice grant from some New York association...right before they sponsored the film "Knocking"