Posts by OrphanCrow

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Keep the meeting going! (even if somebody's dying)

by TimeBandit in

jw
friends

this is a true story.

it's about a sister named henriette venema.

she was a very loyal jw.

OrphanCrow

startingover: His daughter did not stay, that was just her initial reaction. She went to be with him as did his other daughter.

Thanks for clarifying that. Sorry... I reacted strongly - these stories of callousness are a bit disheartening and it is good to know he had his family with him

It really is awful how this religion can remove normal human reactions from its followers. It has a twisted way of looking at death - most JWs seem to be numb to human tragedy. Maybe it is the exposure to vivid, violent images of death and dying at Armageddon that is responsible for their inappropriate or non response to real suffering right in front of them. They have been desensitized

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Paranormal Warning

by Cold Steel in

i've heard some weird stories coming from jws about the paranormal.

i know about the warnings about items that come from unbelievers -- those don't interest me as much.

what i am interested in are actual experiences in stories of the paranormal you've heard or experienced yourself.

OrphanCrow

cold steel: Oh, you'd be a lot of fun at a campout!

What the heck is that supposed to mean?? I am great on a campout...I think. Oh...maybe not. I just remembered my last camping trip...

You may say here and now that you wouldn't mind being locked into an abandoned prison or asylum to spend the night, but if it came down to it, we'd probably all chicken out rather than do it.

Lol! Actually, I have done this. Seriously. I spent the night, with a group of paranormal investigators, inside an old TB sanatorium. It had been abandoned for years. Apparently, it is claimed to be one the highest paranormal sites in Canada.

We split into two groups and I was with the group that sat inside the overflow morgue with the lights off - we were looking for "Mr. Stiffy" - the undertaker that was said to hang out there on occasion. Fun times

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Exit therapist

by Beachlover in

jw
friends

i am having quite a bit of trouble leaving and fading.

does anyone have recommendations of an exit therapist?

it doesn't matter where they are located, i need to get out physically, mentally, and emotionally.

OrphanCrow

Perry, your comments are not appropriate on this thread. I realize that Jesus works for you....but the OP was an inquiry about "exit therapists". As much as you believe that Jesus is a therapist...he isn't.

If the title of this thread, or the OP, suggested that what was needed was religious advice, your religious advice would be welcome. They didn't. Their concern was genuine and your comments serve to derail an important topic. And, you know this. So I find your comments to be insensitive to the poster who started this thread and to the people who have responded sincerely

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Paranormal Warning

by Cold Steel in

i've heard some weird stories coming from jws about the paranormal.

i know about the warnings about items that come from unbelievers -- those don't interest me as much.

what i am interested in are actual experiences in stories of the paranormal you've heard or experienced yourself.

OrphanCrow

cold steel: Are these simply my imagination? Are they reflective anomolies of light and nothing more? Or are they images of the past?

Yes. They are reflective anomalies of light.

You had mentioned negatives. Analog film is only sensitive to the visible light spectrum (unless it is specialty film such as infared sensitive). If you cannot see something with your naked eye, neither can the camera - the film only records what is in the visible light spectrum. Any anomalies that the film captures are simply the result of optics...nothing more (*except chemical processes). And the interpretation of those anomalies are influenced by the phenomena described in the link Cofty provided

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Keep the meeting going! (even if somebody's dying)

by TimeBandit in

jw
friends

this is a true story.

it's about a sister named henriette venema.

she was a very loyal jw.

OrphanCrow

startingover: Everyone sat there watching as he was being worked on, even as the EMT's came onto the stage

That would have been quite the spectacle

Unbelievable - the audience sits and watches a real life drama unfold in front of them. Sits and watches

I find that to be very disrespectful. Handled in the best way possible??? No. Not at all. Giving the poor fellow some privacy should have been right up there on the list of priorities. Letting him be the center of entertainment is really f***ing nuts

Dismiss the audience...postpone the meeting...make a human wall/curtain around the poor guy. Give him and his family privacy. But no, let it become a public spectacle instead. How incredibly unemphatic

And WTF? His daughter didn't go with him??? She stayed at the meeting? Why wasn't she at Daddy's deathbed saying goodbye?

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After Jesus fasted for 40 days, he was tempted by a man (not a fallen angel).

by quincemyles in

after jesus fasted for 40 days, he was tempted by a man (not an evil angel) to turn stones into bread, jump from the temple and bow.

the tester was a pharisee of the ruling class.

jehovah's witnesses believe the tester to have been an evil spirit or leader of fallen angels named satan the devil.

OrphanCrow

saename: Yes, I'm aware of his credentials.

oh

So your definition of "serious scholar" is simply measured by whether or not his position supports yours

You really need to attend a good university (not one of those 'christian' ones that employ only scholars that agree with their 'christian' theology). I mean a real university. One that employs people who have legitimate credentials like Dr. Carrier

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After Jesus fasted for 40 days, he was tempted by a man (not a fallen angel).

by quincemyles in

after jesus fasted for 40 days, he was tempted by a man (not an evil angel) to turn stones into bread, jump from the temple and bow.

the tester was a pharisee of the ruling class.

jehovah's witnesses believe the tester to have been an evil spirit or leader of fallen angels named satan the devil.

OrphanCrow

Saename: there "is a freaking reason why there is not a single scholar who is employed at a university or college who teaches any relative field to Christianity and who doesn't believe that Jesus existed"

I will add my encouragement to Cofty's. Yes, please do attend university. And after you graduate, re-visit this statement

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Keep the meeting going! (even if somebody's dying)

by TimeBandit in

jw
friends

this is a true story.

it's about a sister named henriette venema.

she was a very loyal jw.

OrphanCrow

VI: I would figure that a person giving a talk when that would, right there and then, have called on the congregation to pray for the person having the stroke instead of pretending that nothing had happened

Yeah..but I remember the general consensus in the congregation that I attended was that praying for the sick was almost like "faith healing" and it was only those demon infested fake Christians who did that

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Are hot springs and saunas approved by the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses?

by jwleaks in

satan’s snares today.

in the main, satan’s tricks have not changed over the centuries.

in order for christians living in the corrupt city of corinth not to be “overreached by satan,” the apostle paul gave them strong counsel.

OrphanCrow

Geez

This reminds me of David Berg only allowing his followers to 3 squares of toilet paper

Sheesh. What's next? A prohibition on tampons? Why hasn't the WTS addressed that problem?? Yup...they need a new article: "Sisters, Chose your Sanitary Products Wisely and with a Godly Conscience"

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Debunking the WT blood myths - how safe are blood transfusions? What are the REAL risks?

by OrphanCrow in

(thank you to the reddit poster - fuzzycatpotato - for posting this on reddit).

this is so excellent.

the person(s) who compiled this data has done a great job *fuzzycat did it!.

OrphanCrow

(Thank you to the reddit poster - FuzzyCatPotato - for posting this on reddit)

This is SO excellent. The person(s) who compiled this data has done a great job *FuzzyCat did it!

This information needs to be circulated far and wide

The WT has got away with spreading lies and manufacturing myths about blood for far too long

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Blood_Transfusions:_How_Safe#cite_note-Krev-29