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  St Petersburg Assembly Hall to be given to Russian scientists

  by OrphanCrow in

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  https://realty.newsru.com/article/26dec2017/iegov_med.

  (the following article is translated using google translate).

  the building selected in "jehovah's witnesses" in st. petersburg will be given to scientistsdecember 26, 2017 publication time: 09:42. in a building selected from a banned organization in russia, "jehovah's witnesses", will soon be able to read scientific lectures.

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  AndersAnderson:
  Apparently the branch office building was owned by Watchtower Pennsylvania, and CCJW Russia then leased it (back)?

  Something like that

  The property, that the Russian JWs contributed funds and labor towards and had owned at the beginning, was transferred (given away) to the American corporation back in 2000, I believe. It was when the org was facing yet another court case in Russia and they had been banned in Moscow at the time. They transferred ownership of the Russian donations out of their own country in anticipation of this very moment.

  Basically, they engaged in quasi-fraudulent behavior and now they are using that behavior to whine about losing their property
  

  And noteworthy too is the failure of the org to scream about the "religion" being discriminated against. Now, the concern is that Russia is being bad towards the org doing business in Russia.

  Yeah. Well that was the whole idea all along. As a religion, the org was doing business that wasn't in their charter as a religion to do. And now they whine. Typically, the org is following a century of WT deceptive behavior - they want their cake and they want to eat it too.

  The org has spent over a century trying to deceive everyone around them - they pretend to be a religion and yet the org's purpose is to siphon money from other countries around the world all the while claiming that the American corporation is "helping" foreign JWs. It is an upside down and backwards corporate structure that claims to be a religion

  
  
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  Latest JW.org Statistics Are Confusing & Lack Context

  by steve2 in

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  2. beliefs

  earlier this week a new post on this forum announced that the 2017 worldwide annual service report was available on jw.org.

  wow - that's earlier than the statistics for the 2016 service year which appeared in the 2017 yearbook last january!

  good effort, jw organization!

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  Justme2: Is there anyone with access to the old yearbooks who could check this out?

  Here you go. This is your very own "access to the old yearbooks":

  http://www.watchtowerwayback.org/en/static1/library

  Look under "books" and you will find the yearbooks. Search for the years that you think the chart that you want to access could be in.
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  St Petersburg Assembly Hall to be given to Russian scientists

  by OrphanCrow in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://realty.newsru.com/article/26dec2017/iegov_med.

  (the following article is translated using google translate).

  the building selected in "jehovah's witnesses" in st. petersburg will be given to scientistsdecember 26, 2017 publication time: 09:42. in a building selected from a banned organization in russia, "jehovah's witnesses", will soon be able to read scientific lectures.

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  https://realty.newsru.com/article/26dec2017/iegov_med

  (The following article is translated using google translate)

  The building selected in "Jehovah's Witnesses" in St. Petersburg will be given to scientists
  December 26, 2017 publication time: 09:42
  
  

  In a building selected from a banned organization in Russia, "Jehovah's Witnesses", will soon be able to read scientific lectures. The city authorities will give the former site for worship to the medical research center named after VA Almazov. The building on Kolomyazhsky Prospekt is planned to be used as a place for conducting educational programs. In the building there is a huge cult hall and the largest toilet in St. Petersburg.

  "There is a pilot project according to which in accordance with the President's decree on the basis of the building on Kolomyazhsky Avenue, 21 it is planned to organize a scientific and educational platform, " the medical center told Interfax .

  According to the website of "Jehovah's Witnesses" in Russia, the center for holding religious meetings on Kolomyazhsky Avenue, 21 opened in September 1999. The building was built according to the project of the Finnish architect Helenios Osmo Ilmari. The cult hall with an area of ​​more than 1.4 thousand square meters. meters in the days of congresses could hold 1,6 thousand people. According to the site, the center has the largest toilet in the city, equipped, in particular, for people with disabilities. Also ramps for the disabled are equipped with an entrance to the building, and in the very center there are elevators.

  An informed source told Interfax that the Russian representative office of Jehovah's Witnesses had 55 real estate properties in St. Petersburg, the total cadastral value of which exceeds 2.1 billion rubles. The total area of ​​objects is about 190 thousand square meters. meters.

  "The court turned 16 objects previously belonging to the religious organization in the village of Solnechnoye in the village of Solnechnoye.The interested authorities will in the future order to draw up the necessary documents through the Federal Property Management Agency and the Ministry of Justice of Russia, which originally filed a lawsuit on the prohibition of the activities of the "Jehovah's Witnesses" in Russia.For each facility, a decision will be made about its further use, "the agency's interlocutor explained.

  Recall that in early December, the Sestroretsky Court of St. Petersburg seized 16 real estate assets of "Jehovah's Witnesses", including a former pioneer camp of 10 hectares with many buildings. The cadastral value of all facilities is 880 million rubles, but the market value of buildings may reach 2 billion rubles. The religious organization was accused of transferring property to the US legal entity under the gift agreement, but continued to use these buildings even after the ban on activities in Russia.

  Let's remind that in the summer the Ministry of Justice of Russia included the religious organization "Management Center of" Jehovah's Witnesses "in Russia" and 395 of its branches in the list of banned organizations liquidated for extremism.
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  Hi, all...I'm a faithful JW who is sick of lies about us

  by James Donalds in

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  2. experiences

  i was baptized 30 years ago and have been in the faith for over 35 years.. our organization isn't perfect.

  but i'm sick to death of seeing stereotypes about us.

  we are not mindless automatons.

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  OrphanCrow

  Haha!

  James is likely counting each response on this thread as a "Bible Study"

  That should get those failing numbers up
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  Merry Christmas to All!

  by ttdtt in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just wanted to wish all of you the best christmas / holiday / festivus, and a happy new year!only the second christmas i will be celebrating!.

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  Holy crap

  I am cat sitting for my brother and the furnace failed last night

  Minus 31 Celsius with wind chill of minus 45 C

  12 hours without heat

  Got the furnace going now. Had to get a guy to crawl up on the roof and knock the ice off the furnace vents

  The house was at 1.5 degrees by the time I got the furnace up and running

  Sitting at 8 now and slowly rising

  Kitchen pipes are frozen

  Damn it is cold

  Stupid cats want to go outside. Yeah right

  Merry fricking Christmas!!!
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  Hi, all...I'm a faithful JW who is sick of lies about us

  by James Donalds in

  1. jw
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  i was baptized 30 years ago and have been in the faith for over 35 years.. our organization isn't perfect.

  but i'm sick to death of seeing stereotypes about us.

  we are not mindless automatons.

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  confusedalot: I find that your arrogant, highly subjective comments bring the quality of your "masters degree" into question

  A "masters degree" doesn't come with a certificate qualifying you as a decent human being
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  Hi, all...I'm a faithful JW who is sick of lies about us

  by James Donalds in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i was baptized 30 years ago and have been in the faith for over 35 years.. our organization isn't perfect.

  but i'm sick to death of seeing stereotypes about us.

  we are not mindless automatons.

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  Lol!

  You know what is funny about this OP? (besides the obvious lies)

  He is exactly the kind of JW that makes other JWs lose their faith.

  Keep it up, buddy. You are doing all of us a big favor. Please do stay in the cult and please do share your lifestyle with other JWs.

  Thank you
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  Merry Christmas to All!

  by ttdtt in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just wanted to wish all of you the best christmas / holiday / festivus, and a happy new year!only the second christmas i will be celebrating!.

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  OrphanCrow

  Same back at ya, ttdtt!

  And everybody else too. Eat, drink and be merry

  -28 C here...feels like -43 C

  brrrrrrrrrrrrr

  Light the fire. Damn cold here. Me need liquor
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  What Made You Decide To Finally Leave The Organization?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  was there one certain event or was it more a cumulative thing?.

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  What made me leave?

  A whole bunch of things

  For one thing, I started reading at a really young age and I would use a dictionary a lot. I found out the meaning of the word "hypocrite" and when I looked around me at the KH, that is what I saw. What I saw was not what I was told it was.

  And Armageddon was coming in four years - it was 1971 and I figured I had a LOT of living to get in before Jehovah killed me in 1975 for not wanting to hang out with those horribly hypocritical people I knew from the KH. I decided I would rather die at Armageddon than be a JW

  It would take many years more before I was able to de-program. I bought James Penton's book in 1987 and that is when I finally realized that I might live a little longer than what the WT had told me I would
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  Hooray! Bound volumes in the trash!

  by stillin in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  my wife has held onto them like they were family heirlooms.

  we are cleaning and clearing out accumulated stuff and i pointed out that there is the cd-rom library now and that the society has made revisions and really doesn't want us to be reading the old stuff.

  she said that even though there have been changes to the teachings, the wrong understanding served its' purpose at the time.

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  stanlivedeath: when i cleared my late fathers house--i dumped over 50 years worth of magazines. i found them all over his house...

  I think this is common. My granny was the same - she would faithfully receive (and pay for) her monthly "magazine placement" for years past the time when she was capable of going door to door to get rid of them

  I have often wondered what happened to all those millions and billions of "the world's most distributed magazine" and I think that most of those magazines simply ended up being accumulated in closets, basements, garages of JWs. Sort of like those people who sign up for MLMs (Amway, etc) and all they get out of it is a lifetime supply of soap products that nobody will take off their hands for them

  That and maybe the literature ends up here too: