Posts by OrphanCrow

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Another School Shooting: The Gun Violence/Mental Illness Debate Continues

by jp1692 in

in the aftermath of the valentine's day school shooting in florida, i have read quite a number of articles, blogs and posts about the event.

it is disturbing--and i think inexcusable--that many people take the opportunity to use horrible tragedies such as this to push their own particular agenda.. in particularly insensitive and tone-deaf tweet, conservative political commentator tomi lahren wrote: "can the left let the families grieve for even 24 hours before they push their anti-gun and anti-gunowner agenda?

my goodness.

OrphanCrow

'Don't shoot me': Documents reveal chilling account of La Loche shooting spree that killed 4, injured 7

At one minute after 1 p.m. on Jan. 22, 2016, a teenager in La Loche, Sask., wrote a text message to a group of friends.
That message began: "im done with life."
The teen had just killed two people. He was about to kill more.
A friend replied to that initial message by writing: "Why?"
More than two years after the shooting, that question still hangs in the air.
During police interviews and in a statement he read in court, the shooter has given no rationale for why he killed four people or shot up his school.
During a week-long sentencing proceeding, the only hint at a motive was that the teen felt he was "hated at school."
But it's clear from court documents that a few minutes after that text message exchange with friends, the teen walked into the Dene Building of the La Loche Community School with a shotgun and opened fire.
By the time the carnage was over, two people in that school were dead — teacher Adam Wood, 35, and teacher's assistant Marie Janvier, 21 — and seven more were wounded.

read full account here:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatoon/documents-account-la-loche-what-happened-1.4545956

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Warning of Possible Measles Exposure - Watchtower Bible Tour

by OrphanCrow in

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(thanks to darkspliver on reddit for this story).

http://wamc.org/post/nys-doh-tourist-measles-visited-hv-locales.

the new york state department of health says a tourist from australia who has been confirmed to have measles visited hotels in new york city along with some places in the hudson valley.state health officials say the tourist was part of an oasis bible tour group at the metropolitan museum of art in manhattan, and visited the watchtower educational center in patterson in putnam county, a hotel and urgent care center in orange county and orange regional medical center’s emergency department.

OrphanCrow

(thanks to darkspliver on reddit for this story)

http://wamc.org/post/nys-doh-tourist-measles-visited-hv-locales

The New York state Department of Health says a tourist from Australia who has been confirmed to have measles visited hotels in New York City along with some places in the Hudson Valley.
State health officials say the tourist was part of an Oasis Bible Tour group at the Metropolitan Museum of Art in Manhattan, and visited the Watchtower Educational Center in Patterson in Putnam County, a hotel and urgent care center in Orange County and Orange Regional Medical Center’s Emergency Department. This was between February 16 – 21, potentially exposing others to measles. They say the risk of developing measles is very low, especially for people who have been immunized.
The following is from a news release from the NYS DOH:
Anyone who visited the following locations may have been exposed:
La Quinta Inn, 31 W. 71st Street, New York, NY, between February 16 and the morning of February 19, 2018.
Oasis Bible Tours at The Metropolitan Museum of Art, 1000 5th Avenue, New York, NY, the morning of February 16, and the evening of February 17, 2018.
Watchtower Educational Center, 100 Watchtower Drive, Patterson, NY, between 12:30 p.m. – 6:30 p.m. on February 19, 2018.
Best Western Hotel, 1324 Atlantic Avenue, Brooklyn, NY, from February 19 until 12:00 p.m. on February 20, 2018.
Comfort Inn & Suites Goshen – Middletown, 20 Hatfield Lane, Goshen, NY, from 4:30 p.m. on February 20 until 10:30 a.m. on February 21, 2018.
Excel Urgent Care, 1 Hatfield Lane, Goshen, NY, between 8:00 a.m. – 11:30 a.m. on February 21, 2018.
Orange Regional Medical Center, Emergency Department, 707 E. Main Street, Middletown, NY, between 9:00 a.m. – 4:00 p.m. on February 21, 2018.
These times reflect the period that the infected individual was in these areas and a two-hour period after the individual left the area, as the virus remains alive in air and on surfaces for up to two hours. This explains the overlap in times.Those individuals lacking immunity or who are not sure if they have been vaccinated, should contact their health care provider if they develop measles symptoms. Symptoms include a fever, rash, cough, conjunctivitis or runny nose. Symptoms usually appear in 10-12 days after exposure. Individuals who may have been exposed and who lack immunity could begin experiencing symptoms at this time.To prevent the spread of illness, the Department is advising individuals who may have been exposed and who have symptoms consistent with measles to contact their health care provider, a local clinic, or a local emergency department before going for care. This will help to prevent others at these facilities from being exposed to the illness.Measles is a highly contagious respiratory disease caused by a virus that is spread by direct contact with nasal or throat secretions of infected people. People first develop a fever, then may have a cough, runny nose and watery eyes, followed by appearance of the rash.The state Department of Health will issue a health advisory to health care providers in the metropolitan New York City region to notify them of the potential exposure. Health care providers should report all suspected cases of measles to their local health department.

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2018 Regional Convention program available on JW.borg

by sir82 in

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https://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/convention-program-2018/.

friday.

be courageous and very strong”—joshua 1:7

OrphanCrow

"(mongeese?)"

Nope. Mongooses is the correct plural.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/mammals/group/mongooses/

Image result for mongoose cartoon

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No Bible = No God?

by menrov in

some doubt about the bible completely, some partially.

what if the bible turns out to be a product of humans, nothing divine.

would you still believe in a creator?.

OrphanCrow

venus: Before asking for proof, think about this. A seed can feel it is finished as it has been buried—it doesn’t know it has only been planted to continue living! There is no need to show the proof that there is life after its seeming burial.

Yeah, you should think, Venus. Instead, you have used a ridiculous analogy for your illustration.

Think about this: seeds don't feel and seeds don't know because...well, a seed doesn't have a brain.

This is a typical bullshit device used by creationists and religious nutjobs everywhere - they pull some ridiculous illustration, out of their nether regions, that seems to make sense but doesn't. They project human capabilities onto things that don't have human capabilities. Fairly tale animism. They rely on the stupidity of their audience to get applause for pulling a rabbit out of the hat when they had that stupid rabbit in their pocket all along

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Satan is "bullying" you through family

by neat blue dog in

just thought i'd share this ridiculous picture from a recent watchtower.

in recent years, the word bullying has been thrown around a lot, and often misused by instigators and subtle bullies themselves.

in this picture we learn that your loving family who wants to continue sharing a family tradition with you, who hands you a beautifully wrapped present with a smile on their face, is in fact bullying you.

OrphanCrow

This is so bad. Really really bad

But predictable

When someone (the org) has no defense for their own bad behavior, they will come out swinging with the best offense they can find - mainly, they will accuse the other person of doing exactly what it is that they themselves are guilty of

Disfellowshipping and shunning are the worst kind of bullying you can find yet the org points their finger at people who are acting loving and caring and calls that behavior "Satan!!!"

Gaslighting at its finest

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Police officer in maryland killed with assualt rifle

by _Morpheus in

a maryland police officer was killed yesterday with an assualt rifle.

ugly situation.. https://wtop.com/prince-georges-county/2018/02/md-210-closed-prince-georges-county-police-investigation/slide/1/.

OrphanCrow

Morpheus: I take it mean a rifle used in an assualt, which this clearly was.

Okay. I must be just a nitpicker, then

I have always understood a rifle and a shotgun to be distinctly different. That's all. Carry on...

(I also understand a shotgun to be an "assault weapon" - very effective in small spaces and a short range)

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Police officer in maryland killed with assualt rifle

by _Morpheus in

a maryland police officer was killed yesterday with an assualt rifle.

ugly situation.. https://wtop.com/prince-georges-county/2018/02/md-210-closed-prince-georges-county-police-investigation/slide/1/.

OrphanCrow

Morpheus, now I am confused.

A shotgun is called an assault rifle? I didn't know that...

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Update on Detroit-Area Murder Suicide - Front Page Article

by lepermessiah in

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https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2018/02/19/keego-harbor-jehovahs-witness-mom-triple-murder-suicide/351559002/.

this was on the front page of freep.com this morning - sadly there are some factual errors in this article that people will jump on (not allowed to go to college was in original article for instance - hopefully the reporter will correct it).

interesting reading the comments below the article - all kinds of opinions.

OrphanCrow

Dio: After all, if you take JW doctrine to it's logical and most extreme conclusion, dying before the big A is almost your only hope of being resurrected....especially if you know you are inoccent of any sin but are not allowed to be a member of the one true religion.

Yes.

That is the aspect of shunning that is the most abhorrent and the most damaging. Shunning acts as a death sentence. Once someone is disfellowshipped and/or shunned, the one being shunned has been condemned to death at the Big A. No resurrection. No paradise. Dead forever. Unless they die first.

And I don't think that five years is near enough time to get rid of those ingrained notions. Cult thinking stays with some people for a long, long time.

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Jehovah Witness family murder suicide

by wannaexit in

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so sad!!!!!.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbj0sivgdke&feature=youtu.be.

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/oakland-county/2018/02/16/4-dead-keego-harbor-murder-suicide/345756002/.

OrphanCrow

Dio: I'm going to guess it must have been an awful long time ago they were dubs.

Five years. According to an article I read concerning this case. Not sure which one it was - there are several

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Update on Detroit-Area Murder Suicide - Front Page Article

by lepermessiah in

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friends

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2018/02/19/keego-harbor-jehovahs-witness-mom-triple-murder-suicide/351559002/.

this was on the front page of freep.com this morning - sadly there are some factual errors in this article that people will jump on (not allowed to go to college was in original article for instance - hopefully the reporter will correct it).

interesting reading the comments below the article - all kinds of opinions.

OrphanCrow

steve2: In three deadly blows she has robbed her loved ones of life.

That is true, Steve.

But, we cannot know what was going on in her head (unless the suicide note she left explains it)

Using twisted JW logic, her act might have made the most sense to her.

Wasn't there a similar case years back (a JW man killed his family and himself?) where the man did it as an act of desperation because he believed that he was actually giving his family members a chance at everlasting life? His rationale was that, if they died before Armageddon, Jehovah would resurrect them and give them a chance in paradise. But, he thought that if they had to endure Armageddon coming, that they would be killed along with the wicked ones with no hope of a paradise resurrection.