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  Canada Branch Financials are Posted (The Bleeding Appears Very Real)

  by berrygerry in

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  posted here:.

  https://docs.zoho.com/sheet/published.do?rid=740aq85115d1a04174c4d867e056351ad6836.

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  berryjerry:
  It is possible - however, those declines started 8 years ago. The only real legal threat in Canada was within the past year.

  It could be the org is doing asset control in preparation for upcoming legal battles.

  8 years ago? Yeah...that would be about right. The Royal Commission in Australia was announced in 2012, not to mention the child abuse cases that were just getting rolling then. The org could hear the footsteps. They knew what was coming.

  Just because "there was no real legal threat" to the Canadian branch at the time, doesn't have much bearing when the org was well aware that the abuse problem is global and that Canada is a cousin to Australia.

  Footsteps...and astute financial planning/handling...stash the cash, boys
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  Canada Branch Financials are Posted (The Bleeding Appears Very Real)

  by berrygerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  posted here:.

  https://docs.zoho.com/sheet/published.do?rid=740aq85115d1a04174c4d867e056351ad6836.

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  JeffT: The only financial statement that would actually tell us what's going on is a consolidated statement for ALL of the Watchtower's related entities. A thin slice of the pie (which is what these numbers represent) don't tell us anything about the pie as a whole. Transferring money from one operation to another may look like money disappeared if you're only looking at the outgoing transaction. We need to know where the money WENT.

  Agree

  Just examining each branch separately doesn't tell us much. And, I think it is important to take into account the different tax laws for each country to get a clearer picture of how the org moves money around.

  For example, the Canadian branch tax returns had an anomaly show up a few years back that would affect an analysis if it wasn't taken into consideration. It was in 2014(3?) when the org forgave all those KH loans. And why? It was because the Canadian Revenue Agency made them do it. Charities could no longer act as banks so the org had to forgive those loans. Which skewed their asset/liability figures dramatically.

  A shell game, indeed
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  If onlythey had the same attitude towards sex offenders

  by Addison0998 in

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  i can’t speak for everyone, but in my experience my whole life as a witness, people, mainly woman , were speaken of very poorly for “commiting fornication”.

  and everyone was so repulsed by women who wore “revealing” clothes, always saying, “women wear things like that, or let their daughters go out like that, and then wonder why their raped.” which makes me want to throw up.

  if you even got in trouble for a groping session, you were the talk of gossip for weeks, maybe for years if some had it in for you.

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  addison: If only they had the same attitude towards sex offenders...

  I also am somewhat puzzled by the org's attitude towards child sex offenders.

  What leaves me scratching my head is how someone can be seen just going into somebody else's house, and if they don't emerge by morning or were "unchaperoned" or something equally silly, that person can be disfellowshipped for adultery (or fornication or porneia or something like that - improper sexual behavior).

  And yet...child sex abuse doesn't happen unless two other people saw it actually take place.

  Why the different standard?

  And here is another thing. Why aren't the married men who commit sexual crimes against children accused of adultery? Have they not had sex outside of the marriage arrangement? Does a JW wife have scriptural grounds for divorce if her husband has been having sex with children?
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  I just watched the final video from this years convention. OMG!!!

  by NikL in

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  i am shaking all over right now.

  i think it's worse that the bunker video.. i used to think there was no way that these people would actually "drink the cool aid" if you get my drift, but seeing this video i am now not sure it could never happen.. having a wife who i love dearly trapped in this cult is really freaking me out right now...

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  sparky: Or a constipated Quentin Tarantino on Valium, anti-depressants and Gin!

  Ah...then we would have Tom Cruise playing the part of Jesus killing bad guys
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  I just watched the final video from this years convention. OMG!!!

  by NikL in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am shaking all over right now.

  i think it's worse that the bunker video.. i used to think there was no way that these people would actually "drink the cool aid" if you get my drift, but seeing this video i am now not sure it could never happen.. having a wife who i love dearly trapped in this cult is really freaking me out right now...

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  zeb: Are the bad guys in a national uniform and thereby doing the will of a government? or are they a 'supremacist' mob of some sort. So national attack or criminal attack? and why are jw wandering about in a forrest?

  I think it is direct reference to Russia. Several Russian congregations have recently been subjected to a sweep that included raids and armed searches with assault rifles etc. (http://forum18.org/archive.php?article_id=2381)

  And about that forest...again, Russia. That is how a lot of people envision that huge expansive country - miles and miles of Siberian forests. Which you need a parka to wander around in. 'Cause Russia is cold, you know.

  All stereotypical cultural visual clues that have been inserted into the video by those astute org film makers. It is sort of like Disney on steroids.
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  Canada Branch Financials are Posted (The Bleeding Appears Very Real)

  by berrygerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  posted here:.

  https://docs.zoho.com/sheet/published.do?rid=740aq85115d1a04174c4d867e056351ad6836.

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  Berry Jerry: There isn't an investor anywhere that would put a dime into a corporation with those numbers

  ....and, a little difficult for a court to access significant payouts to victims when the books show less and less.

  It could be the org is doing asset control in preparation for upcoming legal battles

  Maybe
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  Public Talk invitations ....Next to .Zero Attendees

  by smiddy3 in

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  2. experiences

  from my conversion at the end of 1959 to my leaving the j.w`s about early 1993 i remember especially in the first 20 -30 years or so giving out invitations to public talks that were to be given at our local k.h.

  every time i went out in the service witnessing from door to door week in week out i would leave these tracts at not at homes or whoever would accept them .. and in my personal experience i cannot recall more than five worldly / non j.w.

  people , if that , who came to a public talk as a result of the invitations given at the doors in our witnessing work in the 33 years of my being an active jehovah`s witness .. and none of them ever became a jehovah`s witness .. was it just me ?

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  Eyeusedtobadub: Noah AND his 7 FAMILY members preached for 100 or so years and couldn't even convince one, not EVEN ONE person to get into the mythical Ark!

  Can you please show me the Bibble verses that say that? I think I missed that part...
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  Scary Effectiveness of Assembly Videos

  by Captain Schmideo2 in

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  well, i got to see the final day of this years regional convention.and i saw something that disturbs me.. the final, "summing up review" video.

  it disturbs me because it was so well done.

  (i wish i could remember the title of the song), to the strains of a solo vocalist singing in a fine "irish tenor", we see the actors from the previous videos of the last few days all assembling together in a clearing.

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  Zeb: Children and others sensitive will have nightmares for months after that.

  Years, not months

  Maybe for the rest of their lives

  Hell, all I had to deal with was the earth opening up and swallowing me and my bike. In a bad black and white still illustration.

  What has been described by the OP takes moving technicolor to a high pitched scream
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  Scary Effectiveness of Assembly Videos

  by Captain Schmideo2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  well, i got to see the final day of this years regional convention.and i saw something that disturbs me.. the final, "summing up review" video.

  it disturbs me because it was so well done.

  (i wish i could remember the title of the song), to the strains of a solo vocalist singing in a fine "irish tenor", we see the actors from the previous videos of the last few days all assembling together in a clearing.

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  Holy fuck
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  murders at school

  by zeb in

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  at a school in santa fe in the us.

  many people killed and wounded.

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  The media needs to stop making these incidents into living room entertainment

  The young people who are susceptible to suicidal and murderous thoughts are only being encouraged to join the celebrity status of those they are imitating

  The less attention these shootings get, the less likelihood of copycat behavior. Attention is attention whether negative or positive and that is what these kids are seeking. They want to be heard and the media is feeding their desire

  Forget gun control. The media needs to put a stop to making these horrific events into a circus. They are responsible for spreading this contagious disease. That is the first thing that needs to happen