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  Why didn't I leave back then???

  by silentbuddha in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  sunday my old bethel roommate came up to visit me.

  he left a couple years ago and he wanted to catch up and reminisce.. while we sat back remembering crazy things we saw take place at bethel he reminded me of a creepy instance with bro.

  swingell.. it was a saturday morning and we decided to actually go get breakfast.

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  wakanda: I think when we reminisce we can get back into the mindset we had at the time, i.e. being 19. Silent could have been thinking about the situation from a non-indoctrinated 19 year old point of view, but still 19. Also, drag comedy is seen a lot in society, and we are sort of indoctrinated to laugh at it. ???

  I think that JWs in general are indoctrinated to laugh at things that are "different". I have experienced JW in-laws that have laughed very inappropriately at other people who have had unfortunate circumstances. Their funny bones are attached to their asses. As far as drag comedy in "society" goes...that again is a JW funny bone instead of an understanding of what drag comedy is. Oftentimes, JW humor (that I have encountered) is of the derisive sort. Slapstick humor at best.

  I would think that a young Bethelite encountering a doddery old fool at the helm of an organization that has promised them that they "wouldn't grow old in this system of things" would have a rude awakening instead of finding it funny. But no. Instead, those same young'uns just substitute themselves into that promise and believe even more deeply in their own infallibility and eliteness. "Not me! I am young. Of course I will be the generation that escapes old age and death!"

  Overlapping generations indeed. (I always think of dogs with their tongues hanging out, lapping up water, when I hear that phrase)
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  Why didn't I leave back then???

  by silentbuddha in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  sunday my old bethel roommate came up to visit me.

  he left a couple years ago and he wanted to catch up and reminisce.. while we sat back remembering crazy things we saw take place at bethel he reminded me of a creepy instance with bro.

  swingell.. it was a saturday morning and we decided to actually go get breakfast.

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  Wakanda, you are right. This highlights how ill prepared the Wt org is when dealing with common ordinary problems.

  From silent Buddha's account, there was a lack of understanding at all levels. In an ideal situation, the newbie bethelite would have been educated about what was really going on with Old Man Swingle. But no. All he got was a reprimand and nothing else. Facing the reality of it was beyond anyone's ability

  Like I said before, JWs are conditioned to think that the effects of old age will magically be diverted for them. They will never grow old.

  Forever 19.
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  Why didn't I leave back then???

  by silentbuddha in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  sunday my old bethel roommate came up to visit me.

  he left a couple years ago and he wanted to catch up and reminisce.. while we sat back remembering crazy things we saw take place at bethel he reminded me of a creepy instance with bro.

  swingell.. it was a saturday morning and we decided to actually go get breakfast.

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  Who said anything about "politically correct"?

  I was talking about common human decency

  Politics has fuck all to do with manners and empathy

  Yes. You were a baby faced 19 year old. A rude 19 year old with no concept about elderly people who have dementia
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  Why didn't I leave back then???

  by silentbuddha in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  sunday my old bethel roommate came up to visit me.

  he left a couple years ago and he wanted to catch up and reminisce.. while we sat back remembering crazy things we saw take place at bethel he reminded me of a creepy instance with bro.

  swingell.. it was a saturday morning and we decided to actually go get breakfast.

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  silentbuddha: Just before the breakfast was served GB member Lyman Swingel strolls in. The man was older and shuffling his feet, but he was wearing a kimono over a pair of jeans...
  I was staring at him because I could not believe what I was seeing. So of course we tried not to pay attention, but it got worse. After he sat down he pulled the waiter close and tells him something. 2 minutes later the waiter comes out with a tray that had 3 large containers of JELLO.

  You have just described an elderly man with dementia.

  Not something to laugh about or criticize

  Everybody gets old if they don't die first

  I guess JWs don't ever think that getting old will happen to them
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  Spiritual "Protection" - a Menace on Psychological Development

  by Wake Me Up Before You Jo-Ho in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  not quite a week ago, @lost in the fog created a thread entitled: do you have this illness?.

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5187824140681216/do-you-have-this-illness.

  in my year of being on this forum, i have browsed many a disillusioned thread of ex-jehovah’s witnesses expressing similar symptoms of post traumatic stress disorder when detailing their awakening - my own story included.

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  WakeMe, you are dead on with your conclusions about JWs being stunted and infantilized by the org. It is an upside down organization. Not only are the adults infantilized, the children are being "adultized".

  Think of how a JW child is made up to be a tiny adult - they are dressed in clothes that are adult in style, they are given adult tasks (save the householder from Satan!), they are put on boxes so they can reach the microphone to read Bible passages about adult things they don't understand (rape and bestiality) and then they are baptized while they are still children. And you end up with kids thinking they are all "grown up" when they are not. And they never will be.

  How can a JW distinguish between what is appropriate behavior for a child or adult when they are given such convoluted guidelines to follow?

  No wonder there is little concept about age appropriate behavior when the children are made into adults and the adults are made into children.
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  Do you still want to be identified as a Christian?

  by eyeuse2badub in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  most americans want some form of religious identity - even atheists are creating churches.

  by j. warner wallace | fox news.

  the number of self-proclaimed christians is shrinking in america.. i’ve been collecting data on this trend for over 10 years, and the surveys reveal an important truth: fewer people claim a christian affiliation than ever before, and those who claim no religious affiliation are the fastest growing group in america.. but while fewer people may belong to christian churches or communities, americans will likely retain some form of religious identity – especially if what’s happening in europe is an indicator of things to come.. a new pew forum survey conducted in western europe reveals that christianity is waning there even faster than it is in the united states.

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  eyeusetobe: Why do so many Europeans still “consider themselves Christians, even if they seldom go to church?”
  In some countries (like Germany), it may simply be a reaction to the fact Europe has “opened its doors to more than a million migrants, many from predominantly Muslim countries.”

  Actually, no. That is just another one of those 'politico-mythic' devices picked up by religious type people to divert the reality of why people in Germany "seldom go to church". It has nothing to do with immigration of Muslims and everything to do with economics

  Read this:

  Compulsory income tax on Christians drives Germans away from Protestant and Catholic churches

  "Up to 400,000 Germans officially filed declarations to leave the Protestant and Catholic Church after a decision to extend the 8 or 9 per cent charge to capital gains income"
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  Remember when

  by blownaway in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i remember when paterson was built.

  the so called training facility.

  we were told it was to teach elders what their job was after armageddon.

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  OrphanCrow

  Market fluctuation$
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  The biggest news of the year for Mr. and Mrs. Totally ADD

  by Still Totally ADD in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is bigger than christmas and birthdays wrap into one.

  thanks to the australian royal commission our youngest son has woke up.

  we received a e-mail from him tonight where he apologized to us for shunning us all these years, how bad he felt for doing this.

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  Awesome

  Just awesome
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  Medical marijuana

  by Mikethegreek in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  hey everyone.... i'm new to this but i would like to run my experience with medical marijuana past you.

  i'm 48 years of age and have been in the truth for my whole life.. i suffer from ankylosing spondilitis and have for many many years.

  it's a debilitating form of spinal arthritis and the symptoms of this auto-immune disorder affect more than my spine.

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  2+2=5:
  The earth itself would literally improve if we embraced cannabis

  Yay Canada!

  Almost there. Soon
  
  

  https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/cannabis-pot-legalization-bill-1.4713839
  
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  Do You Think Many Jehovah’s Witnesses Truly Believe?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i did for many years even if i had doubts that i would put on the back burner.

  but i thought the majority of witnesses believed, even if they were “weak” in the faith.. obviously, we have elders , pioneers and ministerial servants that are here and they are not true believers.. do you think many jws simply do not believe what they are preaching?

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  They ALL believe in The Promise.

  They believe they will be resurrected and get a chance to live forever.

  That is the fundamental core belief that they all share. Nothing else matters. They will sell their family, their friends and their own soul for a chance at that Promise.