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  Ken Cook's Biography

  by Iamallcool in

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  https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/watchtower-study-january-2019/new-member-governing-body/ .

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  OrphanCrow

  Was Ken Cook raised a Mormon and converted to JWs in his early 20s?

  Someone posted that on a thread a while back. Can this be confirmed or is it one of those exJW urban legends?
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  William Redding

  by Bobcat in

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  is anyone familiar with this person and his possible relationship with ctr or the wt?.

  if you are wondering why i ask, take a look here and scroll down one page and start reading a little.. i could not find any mention of him in the wt online library.

  i wonder if this is something barbara anderson would be familiar with?.

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  In the publications, yes, Rutherford was in power when their vaccination views became known. That is only because the Golden Age magazine started in 1919. It doesn't mean that those ideas came out of the blue.

  The fellas who were writing for the Golden Age were around long before Russell died. They would have had those views all along, long before Rutherford took power.

  It appears like Redding would have had no problem rubbing elbows with those early Bible Students prior to Russell dying.

  I was not making the claim that Russell got his ideas from Redding about 1914. I said they shared that notion and that Redding likely got it from Russell.
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  William Redding

  by Bobcat in

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  is anyone familiar with this person and his possible relationship with ctr or the wt?.

  if you are wondering why i ask, take a look here and scroll down one page and start reading a little.. i could not find any mention of him in the wt online library.

  i wonder if this is something barbara anderson would be familiar with?.

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  Bobcat, here is another book written by William Redding.

  Our Near Future - a Message to all the Governments and People of the Earth 1896

  He certainly agreed with Russell on several points (except for who Israel is/was - Redding was convinced that America was Israel).

  In this book, published in 1894, The Millennial Kingdom A Book Of Surprises Containing Unusual Statements Supported By Positive Testimony, Redding does not name 1914/15 as a significant date.

  However, Russell did use the date 1914 (around 1894? not sure when he actually named 1914) and later books by Redding, published in 1896, also name this date - Redding says "about 1915" rather than point directly to 1914 in his book Our Near Future. Redding also uses the date of "about 1915" in his book Mysteries Unveiled - The Hoary Past Comes Forward with Astonishing Messages for the Prophetic Future, published also in 1896. Redding believed the new millennium would begin about 1915.

  At the back of Mysteries Unveiled, I found a list of books that Redding published with descriptions

  
  

  
  

  

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  It appears like Russell and Redding shared more than a interest in pyramidology and bible prophecy. They shared beliefs about doctors, medicine and vaccinations.

  Redding was writing about the evils of vaccinations long before the Golden Age magazine took a similar stand.
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  Be Honest in All Things - New video exposes a problem with honesty at Bethel/Construction

  by George One Time in

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  on tv.jw.org kenneth cook jr. discusses how important it is to be honest when applying for special assignemts.

  he mentions health and viewing pornography.

  those who viewed pornography during the last year should not apply.

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  OrphanCrow

  Thanks for that background, jp.

  I posted that link because I chuckle every time I hear something about the jwapp or pornography.

  You had said:

  When I was still attending meetings, I heard that Parodi had been "removed" as an elder

  I wonder if that was about the same time he gave up his HLC duties. According to his linkedin profile, he served on the HLC for Orange County for 12 years - until 2005. And now, he owns Overton Security Services.

  Check out the reviews for Overton on this site:

  https://www.yelp.com/biz/overton-security-services-inc-fremont

  I wonder where he finds his employees? (rhetorical question)
  
  
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  William Redding

  by Bobcat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  is anyone familiar with this person and his possible relationship with ctr or the wt?.

  if you are wondering why i ask, take a look here and scroll down one page and start reading a little.. i could not find any mention of him in the wt online library.

  i wonder if this is something barbara anderson would be familiar with?.

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  Hang on...I just found something that proves that CT Russell did, indeed, influence Redding's writing...gotta download and copy it.

  I was wrong in the above post. Sorry. I spoke too soon.

  Here we go.

  This is a book Redding published in 1896.

  https://ia800307.us.archive.org/2/items/mysteriesunveile00redd/mysteriesunveile00redd.pdf

  An expert from his forwarding statement on page 16 of the pdf:

  

  

  So. Yes. Redding was influenced by CT Russell, among others.

  *you may find this interesting as well:

  http://myinwood.net/inwoods-occult-connection/
  
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  Be Honest in All Things - New video exposes a problem with honesty at Bethel/Construction

  by George One Time in

  1. watchtower
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  on tv.jw.org kenneth cook jr. discusses how important it is to be honest when applying for special assignemts.

  he mentions health and viewing pornography.

  those who viewed pornography during the last year should not apply.

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  OrphanCrow

  Well, if this thread is about being honest...

  If anyone is interested, just click on this link and type "pornography" into the page search function:

  http://jwemployees.bravehost.com/NewsReports/2062.html

  You will be able to read a pretty interesting account of how certain JWs are linked to the pornography industry (including the dude who developed the JWapp).

  The opposite of honesty is hypocrisy.
  
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  William Redding

  by Bobcat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  is anyone familiar with this person and his possible relationship with ctr or the wt?.

  if you are wondering why i ask, take a look here and scroll down one page and start reading a little.. i could not find any mention of him in the wt online library.

  i wonder if this is something barbara anderson would be familiar with?.

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  Bobcat: But I was curious if William Redding gained his viewpoint from associating with the Russellites or if it was the other way around, or if the ideas he expressed were something more widely thought of at the time.

  I don't think Redding had anything to do with the Russellites. End times prophecy was popular at the time and there are many authors who explored the subject, liberally mixing religious thought and politics. And something else that promoted the publication of these authors was the rise of the American publishing industry - lots of books and wanna-be-authors. Money to be made in the publishing world. Late 19th century America saw the rise of pulp fiction and religious/political books.

  Here is a link to another book Redding wrote:

  The Millennial Kingdom for the American People

  You can download the book to read or read it online. I didn't read the whole book - I just skimmed through it and read bit and pieces. His intro in that book describes in detail an illness he suffered early in life and events following that.

  I do not get the impression that Chuckie had anything to do with Redding's thoughts and ideology. Their theologies don't match at all.

  Russell was a Zionist and espoused a dual covenant theology. He believed that once the Jews returned to the 'promised land', that Bible prophecy would have been fulfilled. Russell believed that the Jews' covenant with God was valid and binding and that the Gentiles' covenant was also binding - the Jews, according to Russell's would not need to convert to Christ.

  In Redding's book about the coming millennium, he describes Bible prophecy in very different terms. He is anti-Semitic. And racist. Very much so. It was actually pretty hard to read some of the things he wrote. Basically, his premise is that America is God's chosen people - the Anglo-Saxon race is superior to every other race in the world, especially the Jews, and America is meant to rule the world - cause the Bible says so and he can prove it.

  So, in my opinion, Redding and Russell did not cross paths. Redding was just another nut (ex-lawyer) who pulled stuff out his nether regions and mixed it with text from a dusty old book in order to feel important about himself and promote some sort of political agenda.

  Hope that helps, Bobcat.
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  Watchtower Tax Return

  by Tahoe in

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  photo credit: dallas canadathis is from only one of the corporations and before the recent kh sell offs.

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  OrphanCrow

  Just thinking some more.

  It makes sense now - this is part of charitable planning. It may be an estate. So what would happen with large endowments is the assets of the estates would be put into a private foundation with only the income from investments showing up in the WTBTS umbrella tax return. If a person leaves their estate to the org, it doesn't go directly to the org - the income from that money does.
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  Watchtower Tax Return

  by Tahoe in

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  photo credit: dallas canadathis is from only one of the corporations and before the recent kh sell offs.

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  OrphanCrow

  I think the WT hides money all over in various ways. The one I posted pays out to the WT Charitable Planning in Pennsylvania - who knows how many of these are floating around? Private foundations set up with money stashed in investments - paying out a yearly income to various branches of the WT octopus.

  And we haven't even touched on the foreign money investments.
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  Watchtower Tax Return

  by Tahoe in

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  photo credit: dallas canadathis is from only one of the corporations and before the recent kh sell offs.

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  OrphanCrow

  I found this too.

  It is a private foundation that has $1,604,011 in assets - all investment income goes to the WTBTS in Pennsylvania

  NEWELL CHARITABLE TR FBO WATCHTOWER

  I don't know how that works in the big picture - would the assets of this private foundation show up in the umbrella tax return in NY?

  And, these returns are just for the US WT, right? Hoo boy..whoo hoo...add in all their foreign investments...wow

  Are ya shaking in your boots yet, Morph?