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  Anti vaccines

  by blisterfeet in

  1. jw
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  i personally feel that vaccinations are beneficial.

  there has been a modern movement that vaccinations are more harmful than beneficial to which i disagree.

  what is your stance as an ex jw on vaccinating your children?

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  OrphanCrow

  

  Old Navyan hour ago

  OldNavy: Once vaccinated and "protected" there should be nothing to worry about. Why would it matter at all if some choose not to be vaccinated?
  If vaccinations truly are effective those who've received them should be immune

  It's not quite that simple, OldNavy.

  Firstly, some vaccinations require regular updating. Secondly, vaccinations aren't just about yourself.

  Example: whooping cough. At one time it was believed that either acquiring whooping cough or being vaccinated was lifetime immunity. It isn't.

  Whooping cough has made resurgence recently (at least, it has where I live) and there are concerted efforts to re-vaccinate and update everyone regardless of age or prior exposure. The ordinary tetanus shot that you get after a cut or wound is now bundled with the whooping cough vaccine.

  I sucked it up and got the vaccine (after a bad cut and needing a tetanus update), even though I had whooping cough as a newborn and have always thought I had immunity. I guess not. And I spent a few days in bed and in pain. It was worth it. Better than giving whooping cough to a baby and watching it gasp for breath and die.

  *To add ... Babies can't get vaccinated for whooping cough before they are six months of age. We vaccinate ourselves to protect those babies
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  Anti vaccines

  by blisterfeet in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i personally feel that vaccinations are beneficial.

  there has been a modern movement that vaccinations are more harmful than beneficial to which i disagree.

  what is your stance as an ex jw on vaccinating your children?

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  OrphanCrow

  cofty: anti-vaxxers, flat-earthers, creationists, 9/11 conspiracy nutters - they are all the same sort.
  The difference is that anti-vaxxers are a threat to children.

  I would add "noblooders" to your list, Cofty.

  All of the above are irrational people. They are more concerned with possible "harmful ingredients" than they are with the benefits of vaccines. For one thing, death from contracting a preventable disease is a far more harmful outcome than putting a vaccination into the body. Just like blood transfusions, they ignore the benefits and focus on a negligible possibility. Scared of their own shadow.

  I was astounded when I read an article that parents are taking their children to "chicken pox parties". They actually believe that introducing a virus into their child's body is a better outcome than preventing a virus from permanently taking up residence in their child. They actually believe that chicken pox is a harmless childhood disease and have ignored completely that the same virus has a +30% chance of causing an adult who carries it untold suffering later in life. Adults who have had chicken pox as a child have a one in three chance of that virus erupting into a shingles outbreak. And yet those parents think they are doing their kids a favor by giving them chicken pox.

  The anti-vax movement is a cult.
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  JWLEAKS.ORG is back for 2019 with a Scandal

  by jwleaks in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  yep, we are back after taking some extended time off.. the jwleaks.org website had been archived for some time.

  i was concentrating on other jw-related projects in relation to say sorry.. but the governing body of jehovah's witnesses, who no longer claim to be infallible, decided that in their fallibility the best use of 'dedicated funds' would be to launch civil action against me in a us federal court.

  to this end watch tower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, inc., sent their attorneys after me.

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  Corney: OC, this is not *his* list

  Sorry. Bad choice of words. I should have said "the list in the OP"

  JWLeaks, that is an awful lot of property and money.
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  JWLEAKS.ORG is back for 2019 with a Scandal

  by jwleaks in

  1. jw
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  yep, we are back after taking some extended time off.. the jwleaks.org website had been archived for some time.

  i was concentrating on other jw-related projects in relation to say sorry.. but the governing body of jehovah's witnesses, who no longer claim to be infallible, decided that in their fallibility the best use of 'dedicated funds' would be to launch civil action against me in a us federal court.

  to this end watch tower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, inc., sent their attorneys after me.

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  JWleaks: ...properties sold in the State of New York between April 2004 and December 2018

  I notice that your list addresses only Brooklyn properties.

  Also in the State of New York - March 10, 2015 - the Kingdom Farm in Lansing, NY sold for $2.8 million
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  Is Being a “Manly Man” a Bad Thing?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so much is said regarding men , in a negative way.

  shaving commercials are now lecturing us as to how bad we really are.

  men should be less masculine.

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  Whoa...

  Sounds like there are some males with offended feelings on this thread.

  So sensitive... fragile masculinity
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  THIS IS IT Tony Morris Identifies King of Norht

  by scotoma in

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  this is the announcement we have heard “about” but now it has been released to the whole world.

  its in the 2nd of a three part serries about the jw annual meeting (oct 2018).

  to minute 52. .

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  Scenic viewer: I'm a bit lost at finding the video. I see just one video of the 2018 Annual Meeting; Anthony Morris isn't in it at the 52' mark. Can someone post a direct link or provide more information on how to find it?

  https://tv.jw.org/#en/mediaitems/LatestVideos/pub-jwb_201901_3_VIDEO
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  Blood doctrine question

  by AuntBee in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  when witnesses go on and on about bloodless medicine, they often imply that this will work in all situations.

  do they really believe this, because it's what the society has led them to believe?

  are they just trying to divert their own mind, from the reality of blood deaths, that still happen?

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  OrphanCrow

  AuntBee: I like this topic when trying to plant seeds with JWs, as i have opportunity.

  I have asked JWs if they believe that Jesus shed his blood so all can live. And they invariably say "yes". And then I ask them "if Jesus gave his blood, why don't you?" They usually splutter and pull out some kind of nonsense about blood beening sacred and then try to find a bibble verse.

  If they were really interested in saving lives they would donate blood instead of trying to convert people to their noblood phobia.
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  Blood doctrine question

  by AuntBee in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  when witnesses go on and on about bloodless medicine, they often imply that this will work in all situations.

  do they really believe this, because it's what the society has led them to believe?

  are they just trying to divert their own mind, from the reality of blood deaths, that still happen?

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  OrphanCrow

  AuntBee, one of the seminal textbooks on "Blood Management" was co-authored by a JW doctor from Germany:

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6214938441809920/basics-blood-management-dr-petra-seeber-dr-aryeh-shander-inaccuracies-myth

  *I never did finish the critique I started on that texbook
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  Blood doctrine question

  by AuntBee in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  when witnesses go on and on about bloodless medicine, they often imply that this will work in all situations.

  do they really believe this, because it's what the society has led them to believe?

  are they just trying to divert their own mind, from the reality of blood deaths, that still happen?

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  OrphanCrow

  AuntBee: bloodless medicine hospitals...the receptionist that answered - to me, totally seemed like a JW...

  There aren't really "bloodless medicine hospitals". There are "bloodless centres" that are basically admin centers attached to hospitals. At one time all of these bloodless centres were founded and staffed by JWs and most still are.

  The bloodless industry consists of JWs and their medical cronies. It is mostly based on ideology rather than good science, regardless of it's somewhat spurious claims.

  Bloodless surgery relies on blood transfusion technology and blood fractions. There are limitations to the practice and to the type of patient that qualifies for it.
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  Blood doctrine question

  by AuntBee in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  when witnesses go on and on about bloodless medicine, they often imply that this will work in all situations.

  do they really believe this, because it's what the society has led them to believe?

  are they just trying to divert their own mind, from the reality of blood deaths, that still happen?

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  OrphanCrow

  AuntBee, the JWs are sorely misinformed about blood transfusions and so-called "bloodless"alternatives. This link reveals how the WTS/org has presented erroneous information to the r&f:

  https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Blood_Transfusions:_How_Safe