Posts by Alive!

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Specific Comments By R&F About May Broadcast

by freemindfade in

i know there are many posts discussing the may money requesting televangalism...er... broadcast i mean!

but i wanted to start one where anyone can put what they have heard any non-exjw, non-apostate witnesses say good or bad about the broadcast.

i don't see how it can't rattle followers... but then again i might be surprised how they can twist things (2+2=5).

Alive!

What will "interested ones" think of all this?

I'm trying to imagine a questioning bible student taking in this broadcast....what must they think?

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New arrangement from C.O.

by Doctor Who in

i think most on here will be familiar with the caller hook up system that many congregations use.

visit about 2 months ago.

during our servant and elders meeting he was talking up the importance of meeting attendance and how we "gods spirit appointed men" must take the lead on making every meeting.

Alive!

Local baptist churches upload sermon video and notes same day.

No special code, no paranoia over attendance versus stay at homes.

Established Christine "at home" get togethers each week - called life groups... Choose your place to be.

Serious.

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Hello, just introducing myself

by Miss Behaving in

jw
friends

i've just signed up two days ago, but i've been lurking for about a year and a half.

here's my story if you're interested:.

my parents converted when they were in their first semester of college.

Alive!

You are courageous - and today you inspired me.

You are so right regarding the wonderful qualities and self sacrificing acts of kindness that can be experienced outside of "congregation".

Bless you.

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"The organisation is imperfect, but it doesn't affect my relationship with Jehovah"

by Alive! in

i've noted active, devoted jw's state the above.. and, it's not a problem for me to remain trusting of god, i just don't trust religions or men.. recently, a member of this forum stated that he remains an active jw, in the family of god's people, wanting to encourage and do good - whilst recognising that the pastoral leaders (the gb) have shipwrecked the faith of many, being unsound scripturally etc, etc.. stop and think about this - the bible says to not follow after those who lie and hurt the faith of "little ones".. the pharisees were accused of traversing over lands and expending much energy to make a single convert - only for that convert to end up worse of than he started off with.. it's one thing to not believe this is the 'truth' and feeling the awful pressure of managing ones life, trying not to lose ones family.. it's quite another thing to declare oneself to be a christian believer of god's jw household, and somehow believe the god of love would use corrupt liars to parade as jesus' brothers in the urgency of last days.

really?

and, to then visibly promote faith in corrupt men, and try to bring converts into a place where the rulership is wrong.. some of us are dying from hurt here.......give me a break..

Alive!

Simonsays,

i have been a little tired past few days - sorry if I am being lazy, but may I ask, are you an active JW as in an active member within the JW org and congregations....?

And if not, have you been a witness?

I just noticed you are following a set of sermons which are not JW related....am curious, not being antagonistic!

Wondered where you stand now.

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"The organisation is imperfect, but it doesn't affect my relationship with Jehovah"

by Alive! in

i've noted active, devoted jw's state the above.. and, it's not a problem for me to remain trusting of god, i just don't trust religions or men.. recently, a member of this forum stated that he remains an active jw, in the family of god's people, wanting to encourage and do good - whilst recognising that the pastoral leaders (the gb) have shipwrecked the faith of many, being unsound scripturally etc, etc.. stop and think about this - the bible says to not follow after those who lie and hurt the faith of "little ones".. the pharisees were accused of traversing over lands and expending much energy to make a single convert - only for that convert to end up worse of than he started off with.. it's one thing to not believe this is the 'truth' and feeling the awful pressure of managing ones life, trying not to lose ones family.. it's quite another thing to declare oneself to be a christian believer of god's jw household, and somehow believe the god of love would use corrupt liars to parade as jesus' brothers in the urgency of last days.

really?

and, to then visibly promote faith in corrupt men, and try to bring converts into a place where the rulership is wrong.. some of us are dying from hurt here.......give me a break..

Alive!

Bro J - have you also had an alternative baptism since coming to recognise the issues with being baptised to an organisation?

Do you reject your initial baptism as a member of the JW org?

Am fascinated.

So your congregation is divided - what percentage are undercover dissidents and do the remaining witnesses know or suspect there are brothers like yourself operating in the congregation?

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"The organisation is imperfect, but it doesn't affect my relationship with Jehovah"

by Alive! in

i've noted active, devoted jw's state the above.. and, it's not a problem for me to remain trusting of god, i just don't trust religions or men.. recently, a member of this forum stated that he remains an active jw, in the family of god's people, wanting to encourage and do good - whilst recognising that the pastoral leaders (the gb) have shipwrecked the faith of many, being unsound scripturally etc, etc.. stop and think about this - the bible says to not follow after those who lie and hurt the faith of "little ones".. the pharisees were accused of traversing over lands and expending much energy to make a single convert - only for that convert to end up worse of than he started off with.. it's one thing to not believe this is the 'truth' and feeling the awful pressure of managing ones life, trying not to lose ones family.. it's quite another thing to declare oneself to be a christian believer of god's jw household, and somehow believe the god of love would use corrupt liars to parade as jesus' brothers in the urgency of last days.

really?

and, to then visibly promote faith in corrupt men, and try to bring converts into a place where the rulership is wrong.. some of us are dying from hurt here.......give me a break..

Alive!

Thank you for your answer Bro J.

For me, I can't see how that works when it comes to the dedication vow.

Forgive me, but it seems somewhat deceptive, although I can see your intentions are pure in your eyes.

So, you say you've had much success. I'm guessing you've brought folk to baptism?

Do they copy your style of ministry? How do they cope with the Ministry school and being taught to preach JW style...which is all about the publications?

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"The organisation is imperfect, but it doesn't affect my relationship with Jehovah"

by Alive! in

i've noted active, devoted jw's state the above.. and, it's not a problem for me to remain trusting of god, i just don't trust religions or men.. recently, a member of this forum stated that he remains an active jw, in the family of god's people, wanting to encourage and do good - whilst recognising that the pastoral leaders (the gb) have shipwrecked the faith of many, being unsound scripturally etc, etc.. stop and think about this - the bible says to not follow after those who lie and hurt the faith of "little ones".. the pharisees were accused of traversing over lands and expending much energy to make a single convert - only for that convert to end up worse of than he started off with.. it's one thing to not believe this is the 'truth' and feeling the awful pressure of managing ones life, trying not to lose ones family.. it's quite another thing to declare oneself to be a christian believer of god's jw household, and somehow believe the god of love would use corrupt liars to parade as jesus' brothers in the urgency of last days.

really?

and, to then visibly promote faith in corrupt men, and try to bring converts into a place where the rulership is wrong.. some of us are dying from hurt here.......give me a break..

Alive!

Brother Jeramy, interesting points.

Does it bother you to go on the ministry and invite others to join a family which is under the control of a GB which you don't seem to trust?

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behind the curtain: literature offer for the month

by Magnum in

i was an extremely sincere, zealous pioneer.

i really cared about the people in the field.

i thought their lives were in danger.

Alive!

You are right Faye, people do have a strong level of curiosity about Revelation.

I remember a sister commented that she felt grateful as after much prayer, she was not struggling as much with understanding the Revelation Climax book on the last study round.

How awful that she felt spiritually weak that she hadn't been able to get her head around the prophetic applications to the early 1900s etc. Sad. Of course, now, the Climax book is just one big embarrassment to JW.org.

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behind the curtain: literature offer for the month

by Magnum in

i was an extremely sincere, zealous pioneer.

i really cared about the people in the field.

i thought their lives were in danger.

Alive!

I remember feeling uncomfortable about those old hardback books regarding placing them with folk.

I found them fascinating, personally. LOL. What does that say about me? Oh boy.

They were kind of spooky - the one I really loved was though was Letter to James. It was the favorite of many witnesses I knew. It was the only WT publication that focused on christian love. I read somewhere it was written by a brother who was later disfellowshipped for apostasy.

I look back and wonder what on earth householders must have thought of our Revelation Climax book offering.

Decent ordinary folk, being asked to believe in historic events such as angelic trumpet calls at the release of a new book or new mandate.

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"The organisation is imperfect, but it doesn't affect my relationship with Jehovah"

by Alive! in

i've noted active, devoted jw's state the above.. and, it's not a problem for me to remain trusting of god, i just don't trust religions or men.. recently, a member of this forum stated that he remains an active jw, in the family of god's people, wanting to encourage and do good - whilst recognising that the pastoral leaders (the gb) have shipwrecked the faith of many, being unsound scripturally etc, etc.. stop and think about this - the bible says to not follow after those who lie and hurt the faith of "little ones".. the pharisees were accused of traversing over lands and expending much energy to make a single convert - only for that convert to end up worse of than he started off with.. it's one thing to not believe this is the 'truth' and feeling the awful pressure of managing ones life, trying not to lose ones family.. it's quite another thing to declare oneself to be a christian believer of god's jw household, and somehow believe the god of love would use corrupt liars to parade as jesus' brothers in the urgency of last days.

really?

and, to then visibly promote faith in corrupt men, and try to bring converts into a place where the rulership is wrong.. some of us are dying from hurt here.......give me a break..

Alive!

Watcher and CloseDoor - Are you leading others in the way to truth in your congregation - or do you quietly submit to the lies?

When you go out on ministry - do you tell people that the leadership of your 'church' - the writers of your publications are corrupt? But you are there to tell them about Jehovah and Jesus?