Posts by skiz

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U.S. Presidential candidate John Kerry

by Sneaky Russian in

is very similar to

herman munster.

but looks aside, moscow is worried that kerry may defeat bush and the seemingly good relations between russia and the u.s built up by putin and bush could fade away.

skiz

Thunder Rider,

Is Bush catering to the BIG BUSSINES? Probably. I have seen in my short lifetime that when BIG BUSSINESS is thriving, John Q Public is usually working.

You're talking about the past. In the past, I would have agreed with you. If we could have voted as BOrg drones, I would have voted solid Republican. I viewed Big Business as the engine of capitalism. I didn't think trickledown economics was such a bad idea. If you give an opportunity to the rich to invest in something that makes sense, with a good return, they drive the economy with their actions and everybody benefits

But now we have FREE trade. Now we have Enron Worldcom type company execs that care about nothing but the bottom line. They are just like Homer's boss on the 'Simpsons'

FREE trade agreements changed everything

When BIG BUSINESS thrives, now they look to Mexico and 50 cent a day workers and look for more and more and more money for their golden parachutes

John Q Public WAS usually working. Now his job has moved to Mexico ...
... and it ain't comin back !

I hope welfare is still around when all of the jobs are gone, because I'm gonna need it
I was laid off on Sept 19, 2001 and sent out HUNDREDS of resume's over a period of a year and a half

NOTHING !
And I wasn't in manufacturing. I have 8 years of training plus my years of experience in various parts of the electrical trade installing electrical distribution systems from huge factories to single houses

The only reason unemployment figures aren't going up every month is because people reach the end of the line in the system and are turned away. I remember the day that I got the letter saying that my last unemployment extension had run out and I was on my own. After that month Bush got to claim me as a victory because I wasn't showing up on the unemployed rolls anymore

Free trade agreement? If some one wants to buy American, more power to them. Sometimes though financial restrictions make the old "made in some third world $#!% hole" stamp attractive.

Financial restrictions ?

It's free trade now ! You VS the 50 cent a day Mexican worker. Where do you think the factory is going to be ?
BUT its not those destitute Mexicans that are buying the goods coming out of those factories, it's USA citizens doing the buying

And for how long ? How long will it take the greed of corporate America to strip the jobs from this country until the money to buy their cheep goods dries up ?

Then you still are manufacturing cheep goods but whose going to buy them ?

I guess that's when the golden parachute comes in the most handy !

David

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Unofficial Poll: Testing Tonight's 60 Minutes Update

by bisous in

jw
friends

unofficial poll: testing tonight's 60 minutes update

skiz

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U.S. Presidential candidate John Kerry

by Sneaky Russian in

is very similar to

herman munster.

but looks aside, moscow is worried that kerry may defeat bush and the seemingly good relations between russia and the u.s built up by putin and bush could fade away.

skiz

Thunder Rider

I am better off than I was 4 years ago.

If all you base your decision on is yourself, then why should we care about what you think ?

Isn't the only question that matters
Are most Americans better off than they were 4 years ago ?

I'll vote for anybody that says they'll stop the unfair 'free' trade agreements

Anybody is better than the big business puppet, George Bush

David

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It's not a matter of "if", it's a matter of "when"

by DanTheMan in

jw
friends

radical, militant islamists or a "rogue state" like n. korea will eventually succeed in nuking one or more american cities.

of this i am utterly convinced, it is not a matter of it "might" happen, the question is how soon will they succeed in pulling it off, and what will the fallout of such an event be, besides the loss of hundreds of thousands or perhaps millions of lives?.

john kerry in a recent stump speech said that all it would take is one megaterrorist attack to drastically change life as we know it.

skiz

I think the possibility of a conventional nuke is extremely small
And I also think the possibility of an attack from an established government and/or country is remote

The real danger is a 'suit case' nuke or a 'dirty bomb'
And the danger is from shadow type groups or organizations like al-Qaida

Without question NY, LA, and DC are the targets of choice but Chicago or SF would be a pretty 'big feather in the hat'

Being a world power depends on military and economic might
A large 'suitcase' nuke or large 'dirty bomb' would be very small compared to a conventional nuke but still inflict tremendous damage if exploded in the middle of a city
The US military would be released full scale, somewhat like the all out effort of WW2
The debate over Iraq would be small time compared to what the President will send the military to do at that point

It's hard to say if the United States has already passed its historical highpoint economically but fairly safe to say ( even without 20/20 hindsight ) it hasn't passed its military highpoint. The world has never seen this advanced capability to project power as the US shows when the planes, bombs, and tanks start moving

If the US would finish off as the big superpower, at the end, depends on alot of things
Achieving military goals quickly would be the single biggest factor

Then again, maybe Tomorrow, Morphius will show up at my door with 2 pills and none of this will matter

David

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Another hole in the JW's version of inherited sin

by logansrun in

the wt has often alluded that there is a genetic defect in humankind ever since adam and eve ate of the "forbidden fruit.

" we've all heard the "dent in a pan = dent in the cakes" illustration countless times over by the society and, for that matter, by a number of fundamentalist christians.

but, there is an enormous problem with this line of reasoning.

skiz

Sex cells (gametes) of males are constantly produced from the time of puberty practically till the day men die. The production of gametes in females, however, is not constant. In fact, females have all the gametes they will ever produce already in their bodies at birth. There is absolutely no production of sex cells -- which is 1/2 of all the genetic material available to their offspring -- during adulthood.

Brad,
I think you just proved that men were created to live forever but women created to die
And that makes sense, if you think about it
If women lived forever there would be no end to their nagging
Then we would all WANT to die

So, really, its just more pseudo-intellectual claptrap by our uber-cool nihilist Marxist Euro-trash wannabe. Sip another latte, try again after your social check clears.

I see you've made another friend, Brad

David

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The Trinity in the Old Testament

by hooberus in

"and god said, let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

" genesis 1:26 .

note the plural "our image", "our likeness" yet from other verses it is clear that man was created in gods image and likeness (singular).. "so god created man in his own image, in the image of god created he him; male and female created he them.

skiz

If God is shown to 'talk to himself'
or
include more than one member to make decisions

why is the number of God members set at three ?

So orthodox Christianity believes, and most Bible writing contemporary religions around Palestine believed, in dividing God into three ?

But how about the Bible ?

Why does every Christian that believes God to be some type of multiple, believe that he is three ?

David

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This Generation Has Passed Away

by Big Tex in

i was raised by the society with the constant drumbeat in my head: "this generation will by no means pass away ...".

when i was a kid, "this generation" was defined as one who not only was alive in 1914 but was aware of the changes in the world.

they were old enough to know the world before 1914, the war on earth, the war in heaven, jesus' installation as king and so on.. .

skiz

The Society has always said a prophecy is best understood after it is fulfilled in part

The error has been with those who put too much weight on the writings of the Faithful and Discreet Slave channel that Jehovah is using as his only channel to communicate with all the people on earth today.

Isn't it time for an 'only channel' that actually has something of substance to communicate ?

If you're always using hindsight and spreading your 'light' to rewrite application AFTER each prophecy is fulfilled, why are you needed ?

I can sit around and make guesses and then change to reality AFTER the fact, why do I need a self appointed Faithful and Discreet Slave ?

David
PS Do you think that your words have more weight when you use a bigger letter size than everybody else ?

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Questions about Rahab....

by ralmo in

my sister used the example of rahab as a source of comfort to her.

you see she believes that by her faith that perhaps i will somehow be saved during armaggedon as rahab's family was spared the destruction of jericho.

i told her that i did not recall any support for that belief from my time in the organization.

skiz

LittleToe,

Because you said

You attack what you do not know.

and

You'd be better spending some time getting to know them, rather than denigrating them.

You've used the words 'attack' and 'denigrating', just as AGuest did
And, just as AGuest did, you've also avoided explaining what you mean

I went back and reread my posts on this thread, which are the total amount I have spoken to AGuest. I can say that both of you are apparently paranoid about being attacked. Have you decided to claim that I have attacked someone because my points are too threatening to your belief system ?

You attack what you do not know.

If the Aaron that posts here is the same person as 'voice in the head' Aaron from the Beyond Board ( as opposed to Mormon Aaron2 from the Beyond Board ), then you're very mistaken about me not knowing alot about that person

Besides - mess with them and you mess with the whole family...

What whole family would that be ?
So far I only detect a few people with a selfrighteous attitude

they still show most on this board (fellow Christians included) what Christlike is about.

If you're including Aaron from the Beyond Board in this group, I've already seen his version of Christlike.
I've seen selfrighteousness, condescending posts, judgmental verdicts that he claims comes from the voice that 'speaks' to him, all of course, wrapped in a coating of sweet lovey dovey words that include 'May you have peace' and 'Dearest' So-and-so interwoven among denigrating speeches. Many of us have also recieved personalized messages from Aaron's voice, aka the Word of Almighty God, that denounces those that don't listen to Aaron

I'm starting to wonder about you now

You start with

Welcome to the board

and end with

Besides - mess with them and you mess with the whole family...

Looks like you might have a little manipulation planned for me on your agenda also

Let's cut to the meat of this conversation
Are you or AGuest going to quote examples of me attacking or denigrating, or not ?

David

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Questions about Rahab....

by ralmo in

my sister used the example of rahab as a source of comfort to her.

you see she believes that by her faith that perhaps i will somehow be saved during armaggedon as rahab's family was spared the destruction of jericho.

i told her that i did not recall any support for that belief from my time in the organization.

skiz

May I ask you, please, to take care in ridiculing those with faith?

And when did I do that ?

How should I designate him from other Aarons that come to xJW boards ?

I know that Catholics are very sensitive about how they are addressed
One time, while making a business phone call to a convent, I asked for a 'Kathy' and was informed that there was no 'Kathy' there but there was a 'Sister Kathy'

When I said, "She's not my sister", they hung up

I guess they didn't see any humor in my comment

Anyway, you can split hairs about where you think Aaron is getting his messages delivered to but on the Beyond Board, he posted today that his messages come to him from God in English
I'm betting its a little tough to 'hear' English words in your heart
Have you considered that you're mistaken ?

I am not dear Aaron... for I know my Lord's voice not to be in his head

So you know Aaron well enough to be sure of who he's 'talking' to and where in his body his voice 'mailbox' can be found ?

As he is in mine. He could be in your's, too... if only you ask.

And I believe that you could get mental help if you only ask for it

But of course, my saying that means that I'm ... how did you say it ?
'Ridiculing those with faith'
I guess you're allowed to speak your mind and proselytize at will but others can't talk about voices in the head or encourage a person to get the mental help they need without being accused of 'ridiculing'

David

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Questions about Rahab....

by ralmo in

my sister used the example of rahab as a source of comfort to her.

you see she believes that by her faith that perhaps i will somehow be saved during armaggedon as rahab's family was spared the destruction of jericho.

i told her that i did not recall any support for that belief from my time in the organization.

skiz

may you have peace.

Wait a second !!

Are you 'God's voice in my head' Aaron from the Beyond Board ?

David