i was raised a jehovah's witness all my life, though i don''t go any more, not till i fall on my head and not afraid to ask questions does this particular question come up.. what is gods name?.
people act as though everyone in the world speaks english, what about the third of the worlds population in china could it be that is his real name at this late date?
why do we assume that it has to be "jehovah" when it could just as easily be how they call it in china, or india, or arabia, or south america anywhere that there is a large population?.
Dearest Shane... and Tweetiebird... may you both have peace!
There is not reason to be confused or in the dark. Your question, Shane, has been answered... in love... and Truth. Please see kes' response, for he spoke truth to you.
Little one... amen... and amen.
Tina... HEY, girl! What, you can't see in the dark? I thought you wuz a... oh, wait... no, that was FredHall, wasn't it? LOL!
May JAH bless!
A slave of Christ,
SJ
just got done reading just a portion of the post from farkel on matthew 25 and the explanation of "doing good to the least of christs brothers".....read you knows and was repulsed at the haughtiness that this organization produces.. wow!
how could this wtbs be so grossly narrow-minded and misled as to showing plain love to all!!!!!???.
anyone that understands our lord knows the christian obligation to show love and hospitality to all including our enemies.. giving materially a drink, a meal, something to wear, a kind word, etc... is exactly what our lord meant in matthew 25!
Girl-O, the spirit in you just keeps getting better and better. May JAH grant me through Christ to stand to YOUR right as you 'do your thing'... and say "AMEN and AMEN" to all of it.
Peace to you, Naomi... you and your entire household... whom I love SO much.
Your servant, sister and fellow slave of Christ,
"Ruth"
last fall, my second year of college english was based on the movies instead of classic literature.
the textbook dealt with cinematic elements (lighting, sound, camera position, etc) as the tools filmmakers use to tell their story beyond mere dialog.
the assignments involved watching clips of film, determining what the filmmaker was saying by his use of those elements, then writing full-bodied essays based on our assessments.. one of the film clips we saw was from dead poet's society.
Man, I am SO glad I am not a 'scholar' (may you all have peace). To subject myself to such 'scrutiny', and open myself to such 'debate' is ludicrous. Hey, wait a minute... that sounds like what I do here all the time!
HEY, YOU GUYS! I'M HOME!!! And I missed you all... IMMENSELY... even though I know one or two... or many, many more... of you (hey, there, Daddy-O) didn't miss me. Ah, well. Just dropped in to say...
PEACE! And may JAH bless!
The same 'ol me, who took a few days off, went on vacation, did some 'spiritual stuff'... and came back an 'unchanged' woman... well, not entirely, I received a new 'gift'... and, thus, still a slave of Christ... (sorry, D...)
SJ (who will now bow out of this thread so that those who 'wish' to can continue without... ummmm... any chagrin due to little 'ol me...)
hello to all today:.
just reading in the book of isaiah 55-....and came across chapter 58. .
wow!
Naeblis... you are speaking of things before the New Covenant. BEFORE such covenant... everything was answered... by death. SINCE the New Covenant, the answer... to EVERYTHING... is love, forgiveness, mercy... and life. Vengeance is no longer carried out immediately.
You asked about the babies; I do not know my Father's mind... but I DO know that His 'law': an 'eye'... for an 'eye'; a life... for a life. If babies died, know that other babies... those that belonged to my Father... died before. Get it? I gave you the description of 'vengeance'... I was my hope that you would hear, and get the sense of that. Do I 'condone' retribution? It is not MY retribution and I have NO place to 'check the hand' of God. Just like you will, in time, answer for YOUR acts... whether good... or vile... my Father will provide an answer as to HIS acts.
Okay, with that said, (dang it, Naeblis! I HATE this...)
The word of my Father to YOU, 'naeblis' (and no, He has not revealed your true name to me...), THROUGH my Lord... is that your challenge HAS been heard... and you will be answered. Your heart will become even more hardened and more obstinate... and then, indeed, you WILL come to know JAH. You WILL see Him... face to face. Indeed, though, you were warned, that it is a TERRIBLE thing to fall into the hands of the living God. But with your OWN mouth... that you have judged... and sentenced... yourself:
I will suffer an eternity of torment rather than bow myknee to his madness.
Thus, just as your heart has spoken it... so it will be. And I am sorry... truly.
Good night, all.
A slave of Christ,
SJ
i've been interested in the discussion on the 'for those of us who believe in god' thread and aguest wrote this:.
"we have been misled into understand what 'faith' really is.".
if we have all been misled, then can someone explain what exactly faith really is?
Dearest Silverleaf and Winston... may you both have peace!
Silverleaf... you state:
To say that an individual [whether a human or an animal] asks for help from the Lord and receives it because they had faith and asked sincerely, is fine, but to say that an individual who asks for help or guidance and does not receive it, does not because they were not sincere, or did not have enough faith or the right faith or did not ask the right way, falls short as an explanation.
May I ask you in what way such 'falls short'? Honey, if I've given you instructions on how to approach me... and HEAR me... and YOU fail or refuse to follow them... can you blame ME? Really? You indeed asked, but you didn't do it in the 'Way' I told you that you NEEDED to, or THROUGH the one I told you to go through... in order for ME to hear it... and respond. Or... you did do it that 'Way'... and I responded... but you didn't LISTEN... in the 'Way'... I told you you NEEDED to. You are determined to do it YOUR way... and then fault ME when you don't get what you want.
Let me give you an example: you have been taught that God does not even SPEAK to earthling man, yes? You have ALSO been taught not to give heed to your dreams, yes? But what does GOD perhaps say about that? Tell you what, let me say to you, what the young man Elihu is reported to have said at Job 34:14-17:
"Look! In THIS... YOU... have not been in the right,
I answer you. For God is MUCH more than mortal man.
Why IS it against HIM... that you contended? Because
all your words He does not answer?
"For God speaks once... AND TWICE... though one does
not regard it... IN A DREAM, a VISION OF THE NIGHT,
when deep sleep falls upon men, during slumbers
upon the bed...
"IT IS THEN THAT HE UNCOVERS THE EAR OF MEN...
and on EXHORTATION to them He puts His seal,
to turn ASIDE from his deed and that He may
cover PRIDE itself from an able-bodied man."
Wait! Uh-oh... THIS says that God's talks to folks during their dreams. Say WHAT!? But the Watchtower, who supposedly consider the Bible as the "ultimate authority" has told you NOT to pay attention to your dreams.
Do you understand my point, Silver? STOP listening to 'earthling man'... and LISTEN TO GOD. But you have to listen to HIM... by listening... to the One He APPOINTED... to SPEAK! And... you would most certainly have to BELIEVE that He even SPEAKS... yes? And then, when you DID hear something... you would have to EXERCISE faith that it was FROM God... through Christ... and obey. Yes?
Okay, so you 'hear' a 'voice' that says, go out and murder your entire family. Or you have a dream that depicts that. Dear one, if you KNEW God... you would KNOW... that such did not COME from Him. Why? Because my Father no longer DEALS with fleshly Israel... but with SPIRITUAL Israel... and the MEDIATOR of spiritual Israel... 'is for peace'. You would KNOW that... and so you would KNOW the 'origin' of the inspired expression... that it did NOT 'originate... with God'.
Why is faith so DIFFICULT a concept for some of you? I am sorry, please forgive me... but I just don't GET it. I am sorry; I just don't. Truly, if you WANTED to have faith, dear ones... you WOULD have faith. Instead, it seems that at EVERY turn, you are trying to find reasons why should NOT have faith. And you cry, "God ain't talkin' to me!" My Lord was speaking truth when he said you are like the little children in the market place who cried out, "We played the flute... but you did not dance; we wailed... but you did not beat yourselves in grief."
My Father PROVED Himself... people. Time... and time... and time again. Whole NATIONS who did not believe He existed and possessed power... were taken out. Do you REALLY want such a demonstration? Do you REALLY need to have your physical flesh 'pleasured' in order to believe the Holy One of Israel Exists? I caution you: be CAREFUL... what you ask for. Pharaoh himself, who said, "Who is JAH; I do not KNOW JAH"... indeed came to 'know JAH'.
Winston, dear one... SIGH!... you ask:
will all the amoebas and all other one types of one celled animals get everlasting life if they excersize faith in Jesus? Also what will the quality of life be like for these one celled creatures? Will they be of a divine nature?
First, you are assuming the survival of this species, as well as their purpose for existence. IF everything is eventually transformed from physical flesh... to SPIRIT... it would be 'logical' that even amoebas would take on a 'spirit' form. Yes? If amoebas are a physical life form, and all physical life forms pretty much die, and 'death' is to be 'brought to nothing'... and if that which is physical will 'put on' that which is spiritual, and that which is 'corrupt' will put on that which is 'incorrupt'... wouldn't LOGIC dictate that even the one-celled amoeba must be changed in its 'form'? What would be the PROBLEM with that, dear one?
Will they rule with Christ in heaven?
Will lions and cobras 'rule with Christ' and judge angels? Indeed, will all MEN rule with Christ and judge angels?
And how do these one celled creature show godly love?
In all HONESTY and TRUTHFULNESS? By being quite content with what they ARE... and how and where my Father has PLACED them... in their 'proper place'... and NOT being like angels... and 'earthling man'... and trying to FORSAKE their PROPER positions and dwelling place(s).
Certain angels weren't 'content'... and in the same manner, certain men aren't either. The construction of the 'Tower' of Babel still goes on today. Is that to say that man should not pursue progress? By no means... God has granted to man many abilities and man HONORS God in the way he uses such abilities. Man, however, like angels... aren't content to just BE man... indeed, they are not even content to be GOD. They wish... like the angels... to be 'higher'... even than God. I ask you, should a dog aspire to be a man?
I'm tired now. You want to take issue with the Holy One of Israel? I say, 'go for it'. I still wish you peace, however, and I am still,
Your servant and a slave of Christ
SJ (shaking salt on the popcorn and hunkerin' down for the 'show'... and begging y'all's pardon again... for my 'zeal'...)
i would like to know why you still beleive in god and what, based upon the bible, leads you to believe in god.. i likethe scripture that states the earth was a circle and hung upon nothing.
i also find that there is evidence the flood existed.
anybody know the stats of the "supposed" ark on mr. ararat?.
Dearest JAT... may you have peace.
With the exception of leaving out the MEANS by which God is to accomplish all of this... His SON... you are ABSOLUTELY... correct. May the undeserved kindness and mercy of my God and Father, the Holy One of Israel, who's name IS... JAH OF ARMIES... and the peace of His Son and Christ, my Lord, he that comes in the NAME... of JAH... JAHESHUA MISCHAJAH... be upon you... you and your entire household... to time indefinite.
I am your humble servant... and a slave of Christ,
SJ
hello to all today:.
just reading in the book of isaiah 55-....and came across chapter 58. .
wow!
nytelecom... dear one... peace... again.
As I stated earlier, it was a practice in Israel to remove those, be it with death or from the city, those practioners of badness.
Lord, child... it wasn't a PRACTICE... it was a LAW.
It should then come as no surprise that this practice was carried over to the Christian congergation.
No, no surprise... old habits are hard to break.
As I stated earlier, we know that we are not under the law anymore.
Are YOU sure YOU know that?
God would likely want to keep his congergation clean as he tried with the nation of Israel
My Father tried, dear nytelecom... to keep Israel 'clean'... IN THE FLESH. My Lord, however, has instituted a NEW 'law'... to keep us 'clean'... IN THE SPIRIT.
Hear... and get the SENSE of it. STOP judging, dear one. I beg you. Indeed, let then, the one WITHOUT sin... cast the first stone. Here, my hand is 'out' to you. Take the stone.
Your servant, and a slave of Christ,
SJ
hello to all today:.
just reading in the book of isaiah 55-....and came across chapter 58. .
wow!
Here this, O nytelecom... and tell me if you get the sense of it:
"That which is saving YOU, namely BAPTISM...
NOT the putting away of the filth of the flesh...
BUT... the REQUEST TO GOD FOR A CLEAN CONSCIOUS."
Do you hear and get the sense of that, dear one? No, my Lord says that you do not, and that I am to 'enlighten' you, by means of his voice... and his spirit.
Therefore, hear... and get the sense... of THIS:
It is NOT water baptism that 'saves' you, for although water can 'wash' the flesh... it CANNOT cleanse it of its sin. There is, instead, ANOTHER 'bath'... that cleanses you... and saves you. It is NOT the 'bath' of water, for purposes of the sins of the flesh... it is the 'bath' of 'living water'... HOLY SPIRIT... for purposes of cleansing... THE SPIRIT. It is the baptism... by FIRE AND SPIRIT. John... baptized with water; my Lord, however, BAPTIZES WITH SPIRIT. You and your associates, however, do not PERMIT all to be 'baptized' with such spirit, and by your prohibition, you in essence... SHUT UP THE KINGDOM OF THE HEAVENS... before men!
Hear this, then, O nytelecom, and get the sense of it:
"Cleanse the INSIDE of the cup..."
You and your associates run around trying to get people to become clean... in the flesh. Okay, so you don't smoke, you don't do drugs, you don't commit fornication, you don't do this or that. Indeed, your flesh 'is without sin'. Is it? For yet, you HATE, you DIVIDE, you SLANDER, you REASON WICKEDLY, and you IMPALE THE CHRIST AFRESH by attempting to put BACK under law... those he has RELEASED. And you do much more.
Have you not heard and did you not read, that it is not what goes IN a man that defiles a man, but it is what comes OUT of man that defiles him? Which defiles a man more: smoking? Or hating his own flesh? You can, then, clean up EVERY single aspect of your flesh: you can rid it of ALL sin... and even death. I ask you, though: do angels have in THEIR 'vessels' sin and death, such that their 'vessels'... their 'cups'... their spirit bodies... DIE?
No, dear one. Their outer garments... their 'flesh'... their 'vessels'... which are SPIRITUAL... are 'clean'. They house no illness, no sickness, no corruption, no death. That is why THEY must be destroyed.
Matthew 10:28
It is flesh 'with its blood', dear one... that is the 'unclean' vessel. However, let me ask you... are all angels clean... ON THE INSIDE? Do I need answer?
Again, I say to you just as my Lord has said to those before you: cleanse the INSIDE of the dish, then you can see to clean the OUTSIDE of it. Purify your HEART... and by means of Christ, your FLESH... will be 'counted' as 'clean'.
Again, I pray that you hear, nytelecom... and get the SENSE of it.
Peace to you,
Your servant and a slave of Christ,
SJ
i've been interested in the discussion on the 'for those of us who believe in god' thread and aguest wrote this:.
"we have been misled into understand what 'faith' really is.".
if we have all been misled, then can someone explain what exactly faith really is?
Dearest Proplog2... may you have peace!
Actually, dear one, you've got it backward: you have to have a modicum of faith... FIRST. The events that occurred before were to BUILD faith. But that, dear one, was for FLESHLY Israel. 'Spiritual' Israel, however... those who walk NOT by sight, but by SPIRIT... HAVE faith... and such events then are the 'reward'.
To wit: you have to do the work (exercise faith) FIRST; THEN... you get 'paid' (eyes of the blind opened and ears of the deaf unstopped). How MUCH faith (work)? Less than a mustardseed. As you can see, then, I was QUITE sad when my Lord told me that I had such faith, and it was what he GAVE me that added up TO a 'mustard seed'. If my faith was THAT tiny... where, dear Lord, was everyone else's? A good look here... and in the 'religion'... and most the world over... will tell you. It is 'nonexistent'. My heart was GREATLY saddened by that.
If you want to 'have lunch with an angel', then, you have to have FAITH that it can... and WILL... occur. And you, like many others might SAY you have such faith; words, however, will not suffice: my Father, and thus my Lord, know TRULY... what is in the HEART. If you think you have faith, then, do an HONEST assessment: check your heart. Do you REALLY have faith? Indeed, 'when the Son of Man arrives... will he REALLY find faith in the earth'? A question we must all ask... ourselves.
Conflicted, peace to you, too... and again, you are a bit in error. You have ASSUMED that I consider the gospel according to John 'inspired', but you are incorrect. I consider all SCRIPTURE... 'inspired'... and as my Lord has taught me, the only writings in the Bible that are 'scripture'... are Moses (which are not all there), the Prophets (which are not all there), the Psalms... and the Revelation. And indeed, my Lord did not leave himself 'without witness', for he himself tells us what is 'scripture':
Luke 24:27, 44, 45
I did not learn this, however, by reading the account in Luke. My Lord TOLD it to me... and I told it to others, just as he said it to ME. We put faith in what we 'heard', but imagine our great JOY... when we also saw it in writing. Some, however, NEED to see it in writing... on 'stone tablets' and in 'delible ink', before they can 'put faith' in it. That is why my Lord directs me to use what is 'written'... for THEIR benefit... those WITHOUT faith. But for me... he told me; I believed him. I did not NEED to see it in writing, for he has not deceived me yet, but in ALL things he has spoken truth.
Proverbs 8:8, 9
That, then, is the 'thing': many SAY they have faith, but such 'faith' is impotent... because it has to be given PHYSICAL 'proof'. That, then, is NOT faith... but in fact, is doubting. And James said, "Let not the man that DOUBTS suppose he will receive ANYTHING. He is an INDECISIVE man (well, yeah, I believe, I have faith... but you gotta SHOW me somethin', too)... 'unsteady in ALL his ways."
Faith, then, dear ones... is the ASSURED EXPECTATION of the things 'hoped for'. You KNOW you are to receive it, see it, hear it, taste it, touch it, smell it... although NOT with your physical flesh... NOT 'beheld'. You want to 'have lunch' with an angel, proplog2? Where, then, is your FAITH?
I bid you all peace... and the 'gift' of the spirit that IS faith... from the person of my Father, the Holy One of Israel, JAH OF ARMIES, through His Christ, my Lord... JAHESHUA MISCHAJAH... if indeed, you so 'wish' it. And rather than simply SAY you do wish it, I exhort you, beloved ones... CHECK YOUR HEARTS... and see... for sure.
I am your servant, and a slave of Christ,
SJ
i've been interested in the discussion on the 'for those of us who believe in god' thread and aguest wrote this:.
"we have been misled into understand what 'faith' really is.".
if we have all been misled, then can someone explain what exactly faith really is?
Dearest Silverleaf... please excuse the delay... and may you, too, have peace!
You asked/stated:
I cannot understand why God would speak to a certain person or group of people and then expect them to incite faith in others to whom He had not spoken.
In this, dear one, you are in error. May I refer you:
Matthew 13:13
If you notice here, it says those 'hearing'... hear... 'in vain'. What does that mean? It means they HEAR... but cannot get the SENSE of it. In fact, dear one... ALL hear. May I direct you to the parable of the sower and the seed? If you will condescend to read that, you will see that the seeds represent those that 'heard'... ALL of them; however, the outcomes were quite different.
I really don’t mean to be irreverent, but you’re saying that the reason my dog rolls in crap sometimes is because the Lord told him to? Or did he do it purposely to disobey God?
Did you really get that out of what I was permitted to share? REALLY? Your dog 'rolls in the crap', SLeaf... be he/she's... A DOG. Now, if your dog got lost, say 3,500 miles from home, but somehow made it back... I would not hesitate to say... he asked... and was 'guided' and that perhaps that's why some DON'T make it back. I have not asked my Lord on this matter, so in truth, I do not know.
And how exactly can a plant disobey?
As I said to DWilt, "Do you recall the fig tree that refused to produce food for the Son of God? Producing food was the very purpose of that tree's existence; yet, when called upon to do so... it did not. And so, was 'cursed'."
Oh, you’re not saying that man is to animal as man is to woman are you? Please tell me that’s not what you’re saying because I’ll have to hurl if you are.
Now why would that make you 'hurl'. No, man is not 'to animal', as man is 'to woman'. Of COURSE not. The point I believe my Father was MAKING is that just as woman is supposedly 'in subjection' to man, man is not SUPERIOR to woman, and indeed must HONOR woman. In the same way, man is superior to ANIMALS... and so because they (animals) are a form of LIFE, they too are deserving of 'honor'.
I do agree with the general theme of your post, though, that our faith, whatever it may be, should not have to be proven to others, only to ourselves and if we choose to have faith in something, it is just that, only a choice.
I am most glad you 'see' it that way.
Peace to you, Silverleaf... and may JAH bless!
Your servant and a slave of Christ,
SJ
