2 andrews - number 7 and 17.
2 thomases - number 3 and 28.
3 georges - number 1, 41, and 43.
Now, THIS is a WONDERFUL surprise! Greetings, dear Miz Sylvie! Hope all iz well wit'cha'll... and piece t'ya'll, guhl! Ah tol ya'll ya'll wuz luv'd 'n missed up in heah!
Welcome back "home", chile'!
Yo sirvint and fella slav... oh, wait, ah gotz t'say doolos, now... o' de Lawd...
Miz Shebbie... who sho' dun missed tawkin' d'tawk for ya'll, sho haz...
i did a search and came up with some posts related to san francisco, but i couldn't figure out how to find more recent onesthey were from nearly a dozen years ago!
i was wondering if anyone lives around sf, as well as if anyone is around my age?
i'm early 30's.
I hear all that you've stated here, dear Nibs (peace to you!)... and if you knew me you would know that I do refer to the Father as "the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob"... often... and my Lord as "Christ the Messiah". Indeed, when translated literally, that is what "the Chosen One of JAH (MischaJah)" means (some here might say I do the latter ad nauseum, but you probably haven't read all of my posts).
You've stated a lot here, but I don't feel compelled to respond to it all. Only, perhaps, this:
He says, one day you'll no longer reduce me to the level of the baal's calling me your "my baal" while sleeping with other baals, but will instead call me 'your man'. Let that sink in. "Your Man" is the literal translation, "husband" would be the meaning. While adonai is the meaning you have, I'm sure, behind using the title "my Lord", I offer you the second point of my concern. The word "lord" is translated from baal. Adonay, despite translation is not "lord". Those who are sensitive to this fact often use "Master" to translate "Adonay" be distinct from "baal". (As I never learned to say "Lord" anyway, I simply don't. It's an appellation, and I think of him as my brother who gave his life for me, not as "my master", similar to Hosea's thought.)
If you knew me you would know that (1) I often call my Lord my/the Master... and (2) I do not use the term "Lord" as a translation of "Adonai/Adonay"... but of "Kyrios" (meaning Master, owner... husband)... in the same manner as Sarah called Abraham, her half-brother and husband, "Lord". (Genesis 12:19; 20:2, 12; 1 Peter 3:6) Which, as HIS "brother" as well as part of his Bride... I feel compelled to do. Because that is how I recognize him: as a brother AND "husbandly-owner". The first, by means of being a son of God... as HE is... and so having the same Father... and the second by means of a union with him (John 6:56; 15:4-6) that makes us ONE spirit. As a man and woman become one flesh (hence, he those who belong to him are called his "Bride"). I know him, dear one, as he knows me. And not as in know OF in the abstract... or having "taken in knowledge of"... but... by means of holy spirit... know such that I know his thoughts... and he knows mine.
With all of that said, please know that I understand if you don't understand... or feel you can "receive"... what I've shared with you. Absolutely NO worries. I simply responded to your inquiry as to who might live in close proximity to you... as well as possible "interested" folks that you could "talk" (about a lot) with. I returned your inquiry with an invitation to site where you can do that, as well as encouraged you to participate here as much as possible, as well. The direction of our current discussion was borne of my rejoicing WITH you, by saying "Praise JAH!"... and you not able to accept my use of the letter "j" in that manner. So, okay, you don't agree... and I am TOTALLY cool with that. I don't need you to agree, dear one, truly.
And so, if that is the basis that you believe will stand in the way of our discussing further, then that's okay, as well. I totally understand and can receive that, too, and wish you nothing but peace and goodwill.
So, again, peace to you... truly!
YOUR servant (still) and a doulos of Christ,
SA
thoughts?
a woman named amanda started hearing a voiced telling them that a comet was going to destroy the earth.
they bought a house in the north carolina mountains to prepare, thinking the voice belongs to the dead former owner of the house.
My Lord has asked me to ask you, dear Sab (again, peace to you!)... if YOU have perhaps heard of someone who says that a comet is coming... and you believe such a person (perhaps because you have not found them to be a liar)... such that YOU now know... should YOU say anything to the government/science field? And if so, what would YOU say... to whom... how... and when?
My understanding is that you don't have to respond here - you can simply respond to him. If you don't believe he directed me so... and asked this of you... you can also ask about that of him, as well.
Peace to you!
A doulos of Christ,
SA
thoughts?
a woman named amanda started hearing a voiced telling them that a comet was going to destroy the earth.
they bought a house in the north carolina mountains to prepare, thinking the voice belongs to the dead former owner of the house.
This person has inside information as to the fate of the known world and she doesn't seem interested in informing the right people. This means she is crazy or a liar.
I am not sure... nor did I ever imply... that he wouldn't be interested in informing the right people, dear Sab (again, peace to you!). I'm just saying that perhaps the government leaders/scientists aren't the right people. I cannot imagine that he wouldn't inform ANYONE...
I am little worked up about this topic because there are so many people on this planet who believe in the world ending.
Yes, but IS it? My understanding is that the earth was not made for nothing, that it will NOT totter. So, while I am understanding your comet hypothetical, again, I don't think you're WANTING to understand what I am saying. And, again, that's okay. People often DON'T understand one another as to some matters... or at the beginning of discussing them, at least. And that seems to be what's occurring here. I hope that you don't allow our differences in understanding THIS matter be a bone of contention; it need not be. We just have different viewpoints on it. I don't think either of us will the other... or their loved ones... harm, though, so perhaps we can just chalk it up as a topic we're not quite seeing eye to eye on just yet, if ever? I'm cool with that. Can you be?
Ah, well, prophets never do have any actual useful information. Full of warnings, full of knowledge, full of vague non-specifics, full of IT until nothing happens and then they are full of excuses.
False prophets, no. Never... and always. Which is why folks tend not to listen to true prophets. "Boy crying wolf" syndrome... and totally understandable.
there is no real way to prepared except to go through it.
Sometimes, yes. And while some matters may call for more physical preparedness, most are going to call for mental/emotional preparedness. At least to the extent that one has learned to keep one's wits about oneself... and perhaps not panic... so as to SEE what they might need to... can... and cannnot... do... physically. For example, a mom lifts a car off her crushed child. Do really think that was a physical feat? Or perhaps one where the mom's MENTAL and EMOTIONAL abilities... OVERCAME her physical limitations? The mind can be just as, if not more powerful... than the body.
Agreed! I mean, if someone were to go around saying God or a spirit had told them specific things like Iran had a dirty bomb and to prepare but not to tell their family, I mean, that would be irresponsible if they actually had that knowledge!
I don't necessarily agree - perhaps part of the preparation is NOT telling others... until the time comes for them to know. I mean, as a mom I knew of all SORTS of dangers that my children WOULD face as they grew up. Some I told them quite early - others, I had to wait until a time where they would understand what I meant and have developed enough good judgment skills of their own to avoid the danger.
But, since, as we both agree, prohpets like that are full of it (and history has proven the track record of such ones to be an abject failure) I wouldn't imagine it's anything we would ever have to worry about.
Don't necessarily agree with that, either (and not sure where you got that I did, other than your usual habit of stating something as fact and saying that others MUST agree). I can think of several instances where a true prophet spoke, heck, even tried to warn people. As well as time when even science/governments have spoken and warned... and went utterly ignored. So...
Oh, I think it's clear that IF someone ACTUALLY had knowledge of an event and selected who to tell, they that person would bear the bloodguilt in eyes of GOD for NOT telling people because of fear of their reaction.
Yeah, no, I feel pretty comfortable saying that if He (God) told them to tell everyone of certain things FIRST, like, say... they need to listen to a leader HE appointed... because this leader is the one who is actually going to warn everyone... and they did that, shared that with everyone... and few... or no one... LISTENED... so as not to listen to the one who was actually going to do the warning... then no, He wouldn't be mad at the "someone," at all. I mean, it's on those told WHO to listen TO, is it not, that they didn't listen to the "someone" who said, "Hey, look, everyone... there's some stuff coming... but I don't know when... but I do know someone who does... and really, if you want to know you should listen HIM!"?
But, as we agree, such ones never do actually have that knowledge, so this is FIRMLY in the realm of the hypothetical.
As we agree for purposes THIS discussion, yes, absolutely. All in the realm of hypothetical. Outside of this discussion, no agreement, no.
Ah, well, given how easy it would be to provide "proof" of a comet, is would be lunacy for any spirit to NOT provide it.
Of a comet, perhaps. Perhaps not. Perhaps, in this hypothetical... the tools don't yet exist to detect such proof. Now, I realize you (and maybe dear Sab) might say, "Well, if warned, such tools could be developed!" Which may be true: adequate tools might be able to be developed. But I think the likelihood of that, prior to any "acceptable" proof already being manifest... would be slim to none. "They" would have to have some ability to "see" the comet for themselves FIRST. So, they would ignore the "message"... until "they" COULD "see" it. At which point, it MIGHT be too late. Which is sad because walking by sight often causes things to end up that way. Heck, some folks don't even heed warnings they can SEE (think, smoking volcano...).
Besides, look at how boldly YOU preach! Fear of man is NEVER an excuse.
Well, THAT'S true. But fear of man is not always involved. Sometimes it's simply obedience to the source.
Ah, I see! YOu simply misunderstand! Amateurs have contributed a significant amount to the discovery of comets over the year! If someone has this foreknowledge and were 8, they could simply say "Look through a telescope on this date at these coordinates at this time to see a comet" and other astronomers would be able to find it and plot its path. Simple as can be.
Oh, my bad - I did not understand the discussion to be about someone, even an 8 year old boy... who SAW the comet for himself, but only HEARD that one was coming. Certainly, if he can SEE the thing coming, he would be able to provide the kind of "proof" others would need to wake up and take notice. Because now THEY can see it...
Besides, why would God choose to share the message only with someone with no capability to deliver the message? Silly, of course!
Because perhaps that's merely a reward for sharing another message. Maybe something like I stated above: "Hey, look, I heard that comet's coming... and I believe the One who told me, although I have not seen it (but he's never lied to me before)... and he will tell you, too, as well as what to do when the time comes... so you should listen to him..." And if they're smart, they might at least see if what he says is true... by listening to the one he says CAN warn them...
Well, because as you said, no such prophets exist... they can't tell the future.
THEY can't. They can only share what one who CAN has given them. That's not THEM telling the future... but simply relaying the message of someone who can.
It was a TRICK QUESTION
No, it wasn't. Truly.
and only I caught it. YAY ME!
Oh, don't be so hard on yourself. It really was a sincere question. You just didn't get the point. But no need to be hard on yourself for that, either. I am sure many don't get it, so you're not alone. Try logic. That might help you. Might. Might not, just as well.
A doulos of Christ,
SA
thoughts?
a woman named amanda started hearing a voiced telling them that a comet was going to destroy the earth.
they bought a house in the north carolina mountains to prepare, thinking the voice belongs to the dead former owner of the house.
I can't speak for anyone but myself, dear Sab (as always, peace to you!), but if I had inside information as to the coming actions of a CRIMINAL, then, yes, you can BET I would go to the authorities. And hopefully, the authorities would act in time (they don't always listen... or act... either). O did not perceive that this hypothetical comet as the result of the actions of some criminal, though, but more like an unstoppable phenomena. Notice the word "UNstoppable." I still think you miss MY point(s), but that's okay.
Then we're doomed.
Oh, wait, maybe not. 'Cause that was kinda the point. Hence the thought that, "there NOTHING that can be done."
Matthew 24 says that we are supposed to keep on the lookout which means that if we are NOT prepared bad things will happen to us.
I am not sure it applies to everything, but to a couple/few particular things. Good advice, though, yes...
When you think about it the same goes for any natural disaster. Preperation is a key line of defense against natural disasters, so if people know they are going to happen in advance, they have a responsibility to save as many lives as they can using their inside information.
Well, now, I didn't say such one shouldn't try to save as many lives as THEY can. I didn't even know we were discussing that, per se. I thought we were discussing telling the government/science, etc. Right? Or did I miss something?
To just watch people die when you could have tried to do something is inhuman.
Interesting. Does that apply to, say, Iran, Afghanistan, Vietnam, Pakistan, Tibet, Kurdistan, etc., etc., etc., too? Because I don't think my telling, say, the U.S. and others forces who, say, drops bombs on innocent folks... or the fanatical terrorists who blow themselves up... that if they all don't just stop that mess because one day they're gonna all reap what they sow... is gonna stop THEM.
I mean, I'm just sayin'...
I understand what YOU are saying, dear Sab. Perhaps you can try to understand what I am saying. Perhaps not. No worries, though. It's just a hypothetical situation anyway.
Peace!
YOUR servant and a doulos of Christ,
SA
i did a search and came up with some posts related to san francisco, but i couldn't figure out how to find more recent onesthey were from nearly a dozen years ago!
i was wondering if anyone lives around sf, as well as if anyone is around my age?
i'm early 30's.
DISCLAIMER (for any who might care): LONG post. Honkin’ long. Just so’s you know.
AGuest, I'm glad that we have the forum of writing because I can't imagine doing this in person. I'd get so excited and we'd probably both spontaneously combust (into 12 personalities?) hehe
Maybe, dear one (good day and peace to you!). I’m a pretty cool cucumber, though, for the most part. I think even my “admirer” OTWO would probably agree with that. I’m not really a very “excitable” person. Came up in the “streets” and so saw a lot that kinda taught me to limit my excitement to times when it’s really warranted. Now, that does include times when my Lord gives me something “new”... so, yeah, some excitement, maybe. One personality for me, though. I mean, that’s all I can handle.
Okay, so I feel like I'm getting "your Lord" whose words jump straight out of your mouth. I'm trying to get to your mind to your heart and ask you to engage with me.
Well, my mouth is actually closed when I’m sharing HERE... and I am speaking from the heart (meaning, doing so in truth and out of a truthful heart)... so... not sure you DO “get” him... or me. But no worries – if it’s to be, it will be, I have no doubt.
I don't need to connect to my Father or his Son though any other person, thus, I'm interested in you.
Ahhhh, yes, I see. Well, now, I think that’s something you’re just going to have to let “flow”, you know? Come as it may. I do post as to myself from time to time, but just your usual everyday stuff. I mean, I’m not different than most other folk, so... I share as to me when I feel the discussion warrants it. I wasn’t feeling that here, so much.
Your heart, the soil on which the seeds are planted. I want to get to know you, which is love, but all I'm getting from you is what your Lord told you.
Ah, well, then, just stick around a bit. I’ve been here a long time (and still some feel they don’t know me, while others feel they do very well. Some truth... and not so much... to both). Personally, though, I like to get to know people... and them to know me... as a natural progression of things. I mean, I could TELL you stuff all the day long. So what? What you will find is that my Lord... and what he tells me... is a very integral part of “me”... and so you’re not very likely to get to know me... as well as you might... without that.
I often fear that people will take my inquiries and feel offense, I am so happy that that seems not to be happening with us. Because I am very interested and am searching for the words to elicit the response. Thank you for allowing me.
(Smile) One of the FIRST “lessons” my Lord taught me, dear one... and I have found it TRUE... is this:
“Do not hurry yourself in your spirit to become offended, for the taking of offense is what rests in the bosom of the stupid ones.” Ecclesiastes 7:9 (NWT)
At the time, I most probably had allowed myself to become offended over something I shouldn’t have, something that was not intended to... or worth... becoming offended over. He chose the right Bible version to show me that (it’s stated differently in others), though, because I’ve never forgotten the impact that had on me. I no longer offend easily, as a result... so, absolutely NO worries.
I am asking you—you reason with me that your Lord told you that the spelling of all this things begin with "J". Then you went on to speak about "when those scribes, who determined that God's name was too sacred to utter, let alone write," and how it is that they altered names—So, I'm asking you, or if you so desire, even your Lord through you—why is it that cares about what the scribes did to his word, if he would choose to use something that wasn't even used when the scribes did their work?
(Smile) Because he wanted me to understand, dear one... because I want to understand. He does not limit the truth, dear one. He leads into ALL truth, even as to minutiae, if it’s applicable to what he is showing one. The only way I could spell God’s name ACCURATELY would be to either use the Hebrew letters (which would be pretentious, as well as difficult, given the limitations of the board sometimes to present certain letters)... or type out “yodh... het... vav... het” EVERY time. So, he explained how it would be written in our modern alphabet. No big deal, really.
In other words, why would he use the letter "J" to represent his name (which predates scribes) and then explain to you about how scribes screwed things up?
Please see above.
AGuest, I cannot wrap my head around how it is that he would wait until the 13th century C.E. to have his name be able to rendered. The "J" came to be in the 13th century.
I understand (your difficulty here). He didn’t wait until then, actually. The SOUND that is made by the yodh, which corresponds to the letter “j” TODAY was around. Long, long before. As was the letter that was formerly the iota without the foot was around. That a foot wasn’t put on the iota until the 13 th century does not mean my Lord’s name wasn’t properly rendered until then. It was, both properly (yodh) and improperly.
That doesn't make any sense.
I guess if you can’t move past the understandings... and teachings... of the scribes/scholars, no. I can understand why it wouldn’t. But if you went to him... and allowed HIM to teach you... a whole LOT of things that the scribes and scholars say... would no longer make sense, either.
So, please ask him or explain to me why use a letter which didn't exist?
I’m sorry, but it doesn’t work that way, dear one. I can ask for ME... and share with him what he says/tells ME about such things. But I cannot act as a “medium” between you and him and ask something for YOU of HIM... and then tell you what he “said.” I am not your mediator and so my gift does not allow that. You, though, are certainly free (and able, although you might not know/understand that... yet)... to go to him and ask whatever it is you want to know... for yourself. By all means, please DO!
(He did direct me to ask YOU to consider: why use a letter such as “y”... which is derived from the Greek “upsilon”... and not the “iota” OR the Hebrew “yodh”?).
Or, please, before the letter "J" existed, what letter did he tell you was there, when the name was transliterated?
He told me that the Greek scribes used the “iota”... which corresponds to today’s “j”... and not the “upsilon”... which corresponds to today’s “y”...
His Son was fluent in Aramaic Greek and Hebrew, what would he have written?
(Smile) My Lord was only sent to Israel, dear one. Matthew 15:24, 26 And so while he was alive in the flesh, HE spoke primarily to the Hebrew/Aramaic-speaking Jews and Samaritans. And when he wrote (John 8:6, 8), it was in that language, as well. And these rarely spoke Greek (although those Jews who spoke Greek almost always also spoke Hebrew). And so, he would have written in the Hebrew: “yodh het vav het”... as would the Apostles... who limited their dealings with the Greek-speaking Jews... because of their limited language skills. This is one of the reasons for the gifts of tongues (which was GIVEN by my Lord... who can speak ALL tongues– Genesis 11:6-9; Revelation 5:9, 7:9): Israel, which had been scattered among the nations... wasn’t not limited to Hebrew OR Greek. Many also spoke other languages. Acts 2:4-18 But ALL pretty much knew Hebrew... because of the Law and worship at the temple. Acts 8:27-36
PAUL, however, would have written to those who spoke Greek IN Greek... and those who spoke Hebrew/Aramaic in that language. That’s why HE became the apostle “to the nations” and not any of the 12 OR my Lord’s brothers.
Please, ask him, to be clear, how was his name transliterated from the original Hebrew to the original Latin alphabet, the old Latin alphabet, and the classical Latin alphabet?
It wasn’t, dear one. It was (mis)transliterated from Hebrew... to Greek... then (mistransliterated) from Greek back to Hebrew. Save the KJV, very few of the Hebrew parts of Bible versions in circulation today come from solely the Latin (Vulgate). Most of the scribes researched texts even older than that.
What you and many others are missing is the truth that the Hebrew text was written BEFORE the Greek. You must realize that the Hebrew we have now came from the Greek Septuagint, which is a translation from the previous Hebrew – HOWEVER, the previous Hebrew was not the ORIGINAL Hebrew, but a form of Hebrew-Aramaic formulated during the exile in Babylon. The ORIGINAL "Hebrew" was actually what is called “Phoenician" or "true Aramaic” today. Even the Paleo-Hebrew and Samaritan Alphabet show the yodh as corresponding to the "u". For example, i n both the Paleo-Hebrew and Samaritan alphabet, the Hebrew “yodh”... was the “jut” (pronounced “yut”)... which made the SOUND of “yuh” The “jut” was NOT a “y”, though, any more than the later “yodh” was.
Forgive me for pressing so hard, but before I can accept your 17th century truth, I'm asking how it is that you or your Lord explains what his name was for the previous 2,400 years. (Latin alphabet dates from 7th century BC, as I understand.)
I understand what you’re asking, dear one. He explains that the previous 2,400 had been an error.
To CORRECT the error, one would have to go back before the Latin... before the Greek... before the Hebrew (which was merely a form of Assyrian/Chaldean “Aramaic” and so before the Jews were exiled in Chaldea/Babylon)... and so before the Paleo-Hebrew... thus, before the Samaritan... to the Proto-Canaanite... or “Phoenician” and FIRST Hebrew Aramaic alphabets. And in THAT language, the name of the MOST Holy One of Israel, JAHVEH, would be spelled:
“jod het (NOT ‘he’), wau, het”
Which would be pronounced... “yah veh” (the wau having the “v” sound here).
So, right now, I'm not interested in more and more of what he says, because he sounds like a voice you're hearing which is explaining to you what the scribes did 2500 years ago, but then tells you how to spell his name using letters only hundreds of years old.
No, that’s not quite it, but if you’re not interested... you’re not interested. But I can’t tell you different from what HE tells ME.
Just ask him how his Son spelled his name while he was on earth?
My Lord spelled HIS name to me as:
“jod het he shin wau eyn”...
Which would be pronounced...“yah e sh w ah” (with the “he” representing the short “e” sound, the “wau” having the “w” sound here, the “u” sound supplied by the speaker, and the “eyn” (representing “ayin”) having the short “o” sound).
I'm sorry, but since I can pronounce the name, and know all the letters used to represent it from Hebrew to Latin and Greek, I'm not really concerned with 17th century English.
It’s really pretty easy to pronounce, actually: Yah esh you ah.
Please, with all due respect.
Of course! Always!
Part of me right now is simply evaluating if I should listen to what comes from your mouth, as you claim to speak as a prophet and yet what you say is not valid in antiquity.
Wait, what? WHOA!! I make NO SUCH CLAIM. I am just a good-for-nothing servant. Nothing more. And I have NEVER said that you... or anyone should listen to what comes from MY mouth... ever. I am NOT the Word of God... and HIS is the ONLY voice you should be listening to. HIS mouth is what speaks truth... and HIS mouth toward the sons of man. I am not here to lead or convert you... or ANYONE. I am simply sharing what that One has shared with ME. Whether YOU or anyone else hear... or refrain. Whichever you CHOOSE... is of no concern to me. I am not the source of anyone’s salvation. I am simply trying to work out my OWN... and that of MY household. By telling the TRUTH... about the Truth, the Holy One of the Israel, JAHESHUA, the Chosen One of JAH (MischaJah), and about his God and Father... and mine... the MOST Holy One of Israel, JAHVEH.
Further our Father wishes us to know him, and in the truest sense that is to seek truth from it's first utterances.
Which is what I have done: sought His Truth... indeed, asked for him... and he came to me. And THROUGH him... through knowing THAT One... by means of a union with him and HIS spirit, holy spirit... came to know Him, the Father. Now, I don’t know how YOU believe you will get to know Him... but what I’ve done has worked out pretty well for me... and my household... so I think it would be foolish not to stick with that.
Thus, while my Father nor his Son speak to me audibly, from generation upon generation through the hands of many fallible humans scribes and heresies, down to modern history and burning at the stake and translating the word so it have so many subtle variances, what remains true is that we were told to dig as if searching for hid treasure.
(Smile) Okay. You do that. I have chosen another path (John 5:39, 40) and I prefer that, if you don’t mind?
The 17th century English, bastardization of Babel, isn't sufficient for my desire to know ??????.
Not quite sure what you’re referring to here, luv.
Moving forward, I now realize I have no idea what you call your Lord, the man commonly referred to as "Jesus"...? So you call him the Christ, I see.
I refer to him as “christ”, sometimes, yes. For myself, I call him “Lord,” or “my Lord.” His name is Jah eShua, and he is the HOLY One of Israel and Holy Spirit and Chosen One of JAH (MischaJah), who is the MOST Holy One of Israel... and the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
That's a Greek title, Christos. You're okay with that? Why are you not okay with his Greek name then?
Sure! I mean, I don’t use it for me, per se, dear one. Even so, it’s not a name but a title. Like “Lord.” If you notice, I refer to him as the “Chosen One of JAH (MischaJah)”... which is almost what “christ” means (it means “chosen” one... but it doesn’t quite designate chosen of WHO. Know what I mean?).
IEOUS became JESUS.
Many believe that, yes. You’re welcome to, as well. I mean, it’s not like I would NEVER use. I have actually known some guys named “Jesus.” It’s not the name of my Lord, though, sorry. Not trying to be contentious, truly. Truly.
You are okay with I becoming Y becoming J in the dilution of linguistics since Babel, but you're not okay with the same progression when applied to his Son's name?
I’m confused – are you saying “Christ” is my Lord’s name? I don’t think that’s accurate
Why his the Son's name more precious than the Father's?
WHOA... who said THAT??
I respect that you hear voices, and I am grateful to you that you respect me testing your spirit to see if it comes from our Father.
No worries; I have nothing to hide, dear one (smile!).
I am however, not asking for what your spirit says, while my spirit doesn't speak to me in audible voices, I have access to him directly—therefore, I do not need you to tell me "the truth".
Then perhaps we should consider discussing another/other topic(s)...
I can go directly to the Father through his Son via the holy spirit to be taught, just as you can. Therefore I am here only and simply to know you, my sister.
I can, as well, to (first) give praise, honor, and glory TO the Father, and ask for HIS kingdom to be established and will to be done... as well as my “daily bread”... and forgiveness for my errors and transgressions. Everything else... I go to the Son... just as he has directed me to (John 14:13, 14).
Thus, you can, if you are willing or if your spirit is willing, give me more. I am not asking for your spirit to speak, I'm asking for your heart, or your mind. Our Father examines our hearts, and knows our minds, therefore there must be something in there—I would like to know what is in yours.
Ahh, dear Nibs. I can tell you all day long “what’s” in my heart. Won’t mean a thing, though, because that doesn’t mean it’s true. What you should really try to do is get to KNOW what’s in my heart... by what I say, perhaps... but even better... by what I do.
Just like the soil which the seed falls upon may be many different conditions, and it isn't just one upon which fruit may be cultivated, what we learn from the holy spirit from whom we are taught (unless you encounter an unholy spirit) settles into our hearts and minds.
Indeed. But again, I could say all manner of “righteous” things. Still doesn’t mean it’s true. The only way you would get to KNOW what’s truly in my heart... is to get to know me. Several here have bothered to do that.
That is what I am desperately, now, attempting to access. I want to know you. Please let me in?
Why? Why me? I am nobody, truly. There are a gazillion folks here who I am SURE you would not only love to know... and love once you know them... even see eye to eye with. Why ME? I’m some lady blathering about God and Christ on an Internet site. What’s the big deal?
Okay, so you quote Jeremiah 31. If you believe the word of God, then you cannot take those verses out of their context. There is a reference in the chapter where he gave us witnesses. You're a lawyer, could you please review the contract of Jeremiah 31, and review the clauses and it's intent with it's original dates. Then, please, can you tell me that you qualify as one of the parties as expressly and explicitly stipulated?
I am not a lawyer, dear one. And yes, I can tell you that as a descendant of Jacob’s son, BenJahMin... I would qualify. At least, that’s what my Lord has told me. Both who I am and why that promise applies to me... as well as that it does apply to me.
Before I'm allowed to take in knowledge from a third party from the voice of a spirit I do not know, I am required to test that spirit.
Indeed! Yes!
Testing that spirit requires that what the spirit says stands up to the written and fleshly Word of God.
Well, not exactly. Sort of. It must stand up to SPIRIT Word of God, the Holy Spirit... as he’s no longer in the flesh... and love. If one can’t HEAR that Spirit speaking to them, then one must test the spirit against love. If one can’t see the LOVE in the spirit... then it can’t be from God... OR Christ. For both ARE love. If one doesn’t have the faith to hear the first... or love to see the second... then one might look to the written document. However, my Lord taught me a lesson about THAT a long time ago, too. He said to me:
“ALL that I tell you is written, but not all that is written is what I will tell you.”
What did he mean by that? That everything he would tell me IS written... somewhere... but not necessarily in the Bible (perhaps in Enoch, Jasher, Barak, the Gospel of Thomas or Mary... or even some secular writing, like a dictionary, encyclopedia, other religious script, whatever... but written, yet)... AND that not everything written... INCLUDING in the Bible... is not what he would tell me... because it’s not ALL truth.
And, well, now... look at that! We’ve come to the end of this particular discussion! And I’ve enjoyed every moment of it! Again, I apologize for the delay in responding but I sincerely hope this will suffice to answer your questions. If there’s anything else I can share with you... or something here that you’d like a little more clarification on, let me know. I will answer if I can and I can and am permitted.
Again, peace to you!
YOUR servant and a doulos of Christ,
SA
thoughts?
a woman named amanda started hearing a voiced telling them that a comet was going to destroy the earth.
they bought a house in the north carolina mountains to prepare, thinking the voice belongs to the dead former owner of the house.
Shelby, it's feasible that modern technology could deflect a comet threatening the world.
Ah, dear Sab (again, peace to you!)... you didn't give attention to what I stated. Which I tried to be VERY clear about.
If a "voice" tells someone that a comet is coming that would mean whatever was communicating could prove the comet existed,
If "it" chose to, yes. "It" might not. For "it's" own reasons. Even so, depends on what others consider to be "proof".
otherwise it must be regarded as lunacy or deceit.
Given what such ones would need as "proof"... indeed, it most probably would be. Hence, the choice to remain silent and NOT say anything.
The person getting the communincation has two responsibilities 1) to prove the existence of the comet 2) to inform the proper authorities.
Ummmm... says who, dear one? WHO says tho WHOM responsibility is "owed"? Of course, those who would be adversely affected are going to say the responsibility is/was owed to them. However, the source of the communication might say the responsibility is owed to "it." The one with the information may think the responsibility is owed to himself/his loved ones only. Who SAYS who it's owed to? And what makes them "right"?
The issue is that we have the technology to try to keep the catastrophe from happening.
To try, yes. To succeed? I'm not so sure.
Because of this we have a responsibility to use technology to it's fullest potential when our world is threatened.
Threatened by who, dear one? An "enemy"? What if our world is the enemy? Not saying it is; just asking...
If premonitions of world destroying comets IS possible, then the people capable of them should be working in cosmology or other space sciences.
I can see why you would say that, but not sure I agree. I certianly don't think the fields of cosmology, etc., would agree... unless these attended renowned institutions of learning and had significant letters behind their names... and credentials/recommendations to offer. What, though, if the one who has such premonintion is named simply "Ulnek" and lives in the Amazon forest? What if he's, say, only 8 years old?
Let me ask you this: let's take the events of Harmageddon (just as a hypothetical, here - don't want to get into a "debate" as to the realities of it or not, but let's just say, for purposes of this discussion)... how do you propose science to stop that? Here's what is stated to occur (not saying it will, here; just using it as a hypothetical):
"I saw three impure spirits that looked like frogs; they came out of the mouth of the dragon, out of the mouth of the beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet. They are demonic spirits that perform signs, and they go out to the kings of the whole world, to gather them for the battle on the great day of God Almighty. ... They gathered the kings together to the place that in Hebrew is called Armageddon.
"When the thousand years are over, Satan will be released from his prison and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth—Gog and Magog—and to gather them for battle. In number they are like the sand on the seashore. They marched across the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of God’s people, the city he loves. But fire came down from heaven and devoured them."
Now, I am a HUGE fan of flicks like, say, "Independence Day," and "War of the Worlds," and "Cowboys and Aliens" (although, not so much that one), and "Armageddon," and... well, anything "spaceship-y." Because I like the "thrill" these present. But I'm interested in hearing how you think an event such as "the battle on the great day of God Almighty"... waged in a place called "Harmageddon"... can be thwarted by science. Given how those who are involved in are gathered by, say, "impure spirits that look like frogs," etc., who do you they can... perhaps even will... do it?
That way when they have their visions, voices or whatever, humanity will have ample time to prepare.
What, though, if it's understood... even KNOWN... that humanity CANNOT prepare... no matter HOW much time is given?
Again, not trying to say HERE that any of this is real or will occur. Just a hypothetical for purposes of this thread and trying to understand your thinking, here Because, again... I don't think you really "heard" what I stated: if the prophecy is TRUE... AND it includes the PROPHECY that there is nothing that can be done... which is ALSO true... such one should tell science/the world... why?
Again, peace to you!
YOUR servant and a slave of Christ,
SA
used to be werewolves and vampires.
thinkin' "twilight" did that in - just saw a commercial for a cartoon where the star is a teenage vampire.
even the zombies are becoming friendly (seen a trailer about a zombie who falls in love and so reverts to "living" again).
What are "salad fingers", dear Twitch (peace to you!)?
SA, on her own...
thoughts?
a woman named amanda started hearing a voiced telling them that a comet was going to destroy the earth.
they bought a house in the north carolina mountains to prepare, thinking the voice belongs to the dead former owner of the house.
Interesting thread (peace to you all!).
If I were a prophet, and could tell the future the first thing I would look into is the next lottery number
I'm not sure prophets can tell the future, per se, dear Miz Wuz (peace to you, my sistah!): my understanding is that they can only share what they're GIVEN to share, and have no knowledge of their own as to future events. So lotteries would probably be out of range for them. Now, a diviner (which is not a prophet)? That might be another story. Although, "all money ain't (necessarily) good money" (they are buttloads of TV shows about people who won the lottery and wish they hadn't... as well as those that did and are still glad they did), so...
All the prepping in the world does you no good if you can't handle the physical stress of dealing with an emergency.
I agree with this to some extent... but I would think being prepared MENTALLY and EMOTIONALLY... so as to be capable of DEALING with the situation... would outweigh being physically prepared. If you can't focus, stay focused, think straight, problem-solve, and make decisions... NO amount of "pumped-upness" is gonna help you. You have to be able to assess the situation... then figure out what to do (how to use what you have, how to find/make what you don't have but need)... to survive the longest. I know some folks that are in GREAT physical shape that I KNOW couldn't think their way out of a paper bag.
Also, wilderness survival is not exactly the same thing as, say, survival in an urban disaster... and vice versa. New Orleans after Katrina didn't HAVE to happen the way it did. Many unprepared MINDS... on EVERY level... is what caused THAT fiasco.
My survival "problem" would be overcoming the sight of blood. For some reason, it always makes my knees buckle. If my LIFE depended on it, though... or someone else's... I would find a way to get over it. Absolutely. I've had to before, so I know I can do it.
If someone has proprietary access to future events that involve the fate of the known world and choose NOT to bring it to the proper authorities then that person should be condemned for jeopardizing humanity (which includes EVERYTHING we have done to get to this point).
Not sure I can agree with this, dear Sab (peace to you, as well!). I mean, the track record is that such folks are never believe such ones (just spend eons lauding them AFTER the event, you know, when everyone wants to go, "He told ME first! Yeah, I knew ALL about it!"). To the contrary, they are almost always labelled as kooks, or enemies of the state, etc., and either locked up and/or put on heavy, mind-altering meds... or killed. Along with their families. I mean, there is the assumption that world governments don't already know things that are prophesied - but that's not a wise assumption to make, IMHO.
Don't fool yourself: the world governments and most of their leaders aren't actually interested in the "people". You know, the "47"... or more... "percent"? The people who run the world don't believe the world is FOR the "people" but rather, that the "people" are really nothing more than an expendable inconvenience most of the time.
To disregard science in such a context would be to doom us all.
Not necessarily - those who might be affected by the "doom," perhaps (although, I believe in a resurrection, so depends on which event is really "doom")... but not sure you can say "us all." But consider the choices: put something out there... and lose everything - family, friends, livelihood... mind... even life - or remain quiet and let those who also know (and SHOULD do something about it) work it out. That they DON'T is... whose fault?
And you can't just blame the governments/leaders: the world (i.e., the "people") doesn't WANT to know about such things. If they did, every person would unequivocally evacuate a potential disaster area when they are ORDERED... if not at least warned.. to do so. And no one would die in floods, eruptions, hurricanes, etc., that didn't HAVE to... because they HEEDED the warning. But folks are often more concerned about their THINGS/possessions... than their lives. It is the human condition.
In all seriousness, what IF a comet hit and this prophetess somehow survived. Would she emerge from the destruction wearing a crown?
If he emerged, he would probably be just as devastated with grief as anyone else. I mean, if he KNOWS there's a comet coming (and it's true) AND knows that there is NOTHING that ANYONE can do about it (and THAT'S true)... why send everyone into a panic? They can't DO anything about it. No, hear what I said: I did not say "they MIGHT be able to stop it, so he should give science a chance to seek a solution." I said he KNOWS they can't do anything about it. Meaning, if they COULD, then his prophecy that they CAN'T... would be false, yes? As would his prophecy that a comet IS coming in the first place (what, one part is true and one part isn't?? If ANY part is false, then I would say one should consider that ALL of it is false). And if the first is FALSE... because he's not 100% certain a comet IS coming (in which case he should keep his mouth shut anyway)... why send people into an unnecessary panic? Why SAY anything at all?
Because imagine the reception for this: "Hello, NASA? Yeah, well, I think... I mean, I know... well, I don't really know but I'm almost certain... but I can't say fer SURE... that a comet is going to hit the earth. What am I basing that on? Well, on... well, I think it's on... wait, no, maybe it's because... Look! Don't ask me any questions! Just BELIEVE me when I tell you I THINK a comet's gonna hit the earth!"
Yes, I can see THAT sending folks to stand at attention...
I just can't see the other survivors appreciating the fact that she knew about it all along and didn't inform the right people.
I would think that depends. I mean, if he says what I stated above, "Look, folks, yeah, I knew a comet was coming; I also knew there was absolutely nothing anyone could... or would... do to stop it, and so why rob those people of their last years of happiness?"... would they really take issue? I mean, if they did, he could also say, could he not... "And if you mess with me, a little sumthin' sumthin' is gonna happen to you, too!" Whether THAT'S true or not. Right? Because he's already established a track record for being accurate by the fulfillment of the event. Who's gonna question him now?
No, I think that MOST of the survivors would probably be trying to be his BFF and try to find out what's gonna happen next and/or what they should do NOW.
Again, interesting thread. I personally wouldn't pay too much attention to a "doomsday" prophet... unless it was my Lord warning ME of what is coming (so I could prepare). Whom I would listen to because he's never lied to me before. Everyone else? Well, they're either gonna have to show me some proof... or my Lord is going to have to corroborate. Since it's more likely that my Lord will tell me whether it's true or NOT... I'll stick to listening to him.
Peace!
A doulos of Christ,
SA
used to be werewolves and vampires.
thinkin' "twilight" did that in - just saw a commercial for a cartoon where the star is a teenage vampire.
even the zombies are becoming friendly (seen a trailer about a zombie who falls in love and so reverts to "living" again).
I must agree with EVERYONE here - LOLOLOL! (Good morning and peace to you all!). ESPECIALLY this:
The first time I saw " Night of the Living Dead " That was the scariest movie of all time to me even today. It's still scares me . Classic
Okaayyyy, dear Wuz (peace to you, chile'!). Used to be numero uno for me. Now, my first pick would be the "Dracula" starring Gary Oldman and Keanu Reeves, followed by The Exorcist (oh, c'MON, now! Really??), Night of the Living Dead, then Alien (the first one).
I've never seen a single Chucky, Elm Street, Chainsaw, Saw, Poltergeist, Rosemary's Baby, Omen, Ring... or any flick of that type. I just don't care for being scared "just because." The others I saw all because someone else wanted to see them and pretty much forced/haggled me into going. I don't even do roller coasters, girl. Not good with that whole stomach "flipflop"/heart stopping-jumping thing. I already KNOW I'm alive - I don't need to be "scared" to believe it! Like some here point out, some things in RL (WTBTS, politicians) can be scary enough! LOLOLOLOL!
Peace... and thanks for ALL of the responses!
SA, on her own... thinking the old "Thing" movie was pretty scary...
