i thought of a list of members i would love to party with.. .
mr. freeze terrry dogpatch fernando, i would love to kick back and talk business with marvin shilmer and simon.
cook and party with ray publisher, satanus, london111 and moeshe, botr, 00dad, flipper, billytheex and many others.
Well, well... so, when're ya in the SF area next, dear Arabian Trees (peace to you!) - I know a GREAT pub or two round these parts... and even better coffee and dessert venues. Drop me a PM when you're headed this way and I'll treat (you can get the tab when I'm in your town)!
Yeah, sure, bring the others along. Yeah, even Las Malvinas (paz a usted!) tambien!
Peace!
A doulos of Christ,
SA
okay so i like dramatic lashes.
and my grandma told me all the women are complaining about them being a distraction.
well all i have to say to them is "kiss my ass".
Good for you, dear OSO (peace to you!). Do like I do, girl, and take it step further: black "Jezebel" eyeliner! LOLOLOL! I wore (and still wear) the liquid stuff, put on with a swipe out and up at the corners! Not quite "Cleopatra" but you can see it (man, I wish I had had Amy Winehouse's nerve when I was a JW! That and my former "Angela Davis" afro? They would'a never baptized me - LOLOL!).
Only reason I don't wear lashes now is the one time I tried to put them on... well, hubby and I tried to put them on me... let's just say between the two of us it was a total fiasco. And HE put 'em on me better'n I did! I still couldn't wear 'em when he did, though, they were so cock-eyed - LOLOL! But at least he got them in the vicinity of my eyelids. I don't think I came close. LOLOLOL!
Tell whoever has a problem with it to stop looking around their own rafter at your outward appearance and focus on cleansing the inside of their OWN "cup." That outta hush 'em up. If they get it, that is. I don't have high hopes, though, to be honest with you...
Peace!
A doulos of Christ,
SA, who loves the look of false lashes, in fact, thinks that whole new "smoky eye" look is awesome - makes girls look more... "girlie" (which she isn't, unfortunately)...
john 5:9, 10. how many do these number, this "crowd"?
it is because there is no set number.
a set time for such of that group to come in.
Dear tec and Nibbled... peace to you, both... and thank you for your contributions, here!
YOUR servant and a slave of Christ,
SA
john 5:9, 10. how many do these number, this "crowd"?
it is because there is no set number.
a set time for such of that group to come in.
Oh, I'm sorry - I guess this thread is addressed to people of Jewish decent.
Judah (Jews) consist of only two tribes of the 12, dear HOL (peace to you!). I addressed all 12, dear one.
I am an American, and clearly this thread is not addressed to me nor does it have any application to the life of an English-speaking American like myself who's cultural heritage is far removed from a very small nation in the middle east.
What, there are no American Jews? No Jews that speak English... in America or elsewhere? Tell you a little secret: I am an American... and a Jew (from the tribe of Benjahmin). AND I speak English!
Strange that the topic header wasn't in Hebrew.
Why? Again, Jews speak English. Even the ones over in Israel... and Poland... and Russia... and Spain... and Japan... and China... and various countries of African, including but not limited to Egypt, Ethiopia, Morocco, Libya, Algeria, Somalia... and the sub-Saharan continent...
Oh well!
Yeah, oh well. Because, again, I didn't just address Judah...
Peace!
A doulos of Christ,
SA
john 5:9, 10. how many do these number, this "crowd"?
it is because there is no set number.
a set time for such of that group to come in.
1) the144 000 rule over the great crowd (that comes out of the Great Tribulation) and the resurrected ones, and the angels and all.
This is an error, dear Prologos (peace to you, as well!):
1. The 144,000 don't rule OVER the GC, but WITH them (Revelation 5:9, 10; 7:15); and
2. Those who take part in the FIRST resurrection are of either of these groups; they are those who belong to Christ but have died when he returns (John 11:25: Revelation 20:4, 6). By the time of the SECOND resurrection, the 1000-year co-rulership with Christ will have ended (Revelation 20:5, 7, 12, 13), so the only "ruler" will BE Christ, who's rulership is NOT limited to 1,000 years, as is that of his co-rulers... but is indefinitely lasting and forever (Revelation 20:4; Daniel 2:44; 7:13, 14) -
2) The 144 000 go where Christ went , and word has it he went to heaven. answer: heaven not earth.
Along with the GC, they meet my Lord in the air... after which he escorts them to the Father's dwelling place, the spirit realm... for their marriage and spiritual unification to the him, the Lamb; however, they return to the earth, as the NEW Jerusalem (John 14:2-4; 1 Thessalonians 4:17; Revelation 7:15; 21:2).
3) the jury is out on that one. Temple NAOS is in heaven, the tent, protection is with mankind. Rev 21:3.
Both the temple (hieron) and the sanctuary (naos) are in heaven for a time, dear one... and both are on earth, as well. The NEW Jerusalem IS the temple of God (Acts 17:24, 25;1 Corinthians 3:16; Ephesians 2:19-21; 1 Peter 2:5; Revelation 3:12)... a city/temple... made up of people in which God dwells by spirit. In that city/temple, however, is a temple... which is not a building... but two other people: Christ, the Lamb (the "Holy") and God, JAHVEH Himself (the "MOST Holy") - John 2:19, 21; Revelation 21:22; Exodus 26:33, 34; Leviticus 21:22)
The entity not dealt with is the 12 tribes of israel in the context of REV.7s great crowd.
The 12 tribes are the "firstfruits" of those who make up the kings and priests. It was supposed to be ALL of Israel but since they rejected the King and Leader appointed by God... they were majorily replaced by a people of EVERY nation, tribe, and tongue... to be this kingdom (Revelation 5:9, 10) and priests (Revelation 7:15).
try this: 12 tribes minus 144 000 equals Great Crowd.
The 12 tribes are "from among the sons of Israel," dear one. For your equation to be correct, the GC would also have to be Israel. Yet, they are taken from EVERY nation, tribe, tongue and people. The are the FELLOW citizens of the "holy ones"... who are Israel.
caveat: this is only valid if the garden with talking snake and cloned lady before the everest -covering waters 4000 years ago is real.
The garden, cloned lady, and everest-covering waters were real. There was no talking snake, though. It was a serpent... which is not a snake. It's not even a beast. And they all talk.
I hope this helps and, again, peace to you!
YOUR servant and a doulos of Christ,
SA
john 5:9, 10. how many do these number, this "crowd"?
it is because there is no set number.
a set time for such of that group to come in.
Peace... and my apologies to all for dropping this discussion! I guess the board moved really fast because I hadn't seen this for awhile (I could have been distracted, as well, and so apologiz if that was also the case).
So, let me paraphrase what I think you're saying. The 144,000 is a literal number. (I'm a little confused as whether these are only from Israel or include Gentiles.)
It is, dear LQ (peace to you!) and they are only from "amongs the sons of Israel." Literally, this means it includes Jews... and Gentiles... as a "gentile" is someone who is not a "Jew." Jews are only those of Israel from the 2-tribe kingdom of Judah - Judah/Benjamin - but not from the 10-tribe kingdom of Israel. However, TECHNICALLY, Gentiles are considered those NOT of Israel. So, depending on how you look at it (technically or literally), it definitely is "only" Israel; however, some of Israel were consider of the "nations", and so, those of Israel who were not Jews... and thus, Gentiles... are also included. The BEST way to identify the 144,000 and the great crowd would be "Israel"... and "the nations."
The "great crowd" and the 144,000 together make up the holy nation, a people for a special possession.
Yes!
The "great crowd" really is a set number, but no man can number because only Jehovah knows the full number, and it's based on his timetable.
No, dear one. The great crowd is NOT a set number... because it's based on time. It is the number of those who make it into the "ark" (of the NEW Covenant) before the Door (that is Christ) is "closed" (by JAH). Since no man knows the time, no man can state the number. Although JAH knows the time, He does not know the number of those who will respond and get "onboard" before he closes the Door.
Do I have that right?
Partly, yes; partly, not so much.
Questions: Are the 144,000 priests and rulers over the "great crowd"? If not, whom are rulers over?
No. Together, these rule over the "sheep" that are separated from the "goats" (Matthew 25:31-46).
Are the 144,000 in heaven or on earth after Armageddon?
After Armageddon, they are in both: heaven ON earth, by means of the things "in heaven AND on earth" being brough back together again. Which occurs BEFORE the war at Harmageddon... when the NEW Jerusalem, or Christ and his Bride... come down OUT of heaven (i.e., spirit beings that reside upon the earth, but have access to the spirit realm, as did Adham BEFORE he sinned - John 10:9)... to be upon the earth. Because that's where they rule: UPON the earth.
Is the "great crowd" in heaven or on earth after Armageddon?
Same as with the 144,000, dear one.
Thanks in advance!
You are QUITE welcome!
Again, peace to you!
A doulos of Christ,
SA
does anybody have any tips on keeping hard-wood floors clean?
seems like 10 minutes after i clean them they are a mess again.
at least with carpet it was harder to notice all the little doodads that wind up on the floor.
Use one of these as often as you can or 1-2 week, dear Mr. F (peace to you!) - they're really easy; they just slide over the floor. Toss in the wash when you're done:
Or, if you don't want to do manual labor but want to keep the dust/pet hair down, invest in one of these:
Or, if you can't afford either and/or want to make it "fun", invest in a pair or two of these (if you have kids, put 'em on them and send them off to "skate" - LOLOLOL!):
To keep it shiny and bright though, hit it with a coat of this 1-2 times/month ("Orange Glo Hardwood Floor Refinisher" - GREAT stuff!):
Peace!
SA, who has hardwood floors on three levels... on her own...
i went to shut my door ( it has ice in the ledge) i shoved it with my side ugh!!!.
if i laugh or cough i near die with pain.i went to the hospital for xrays.
it is a torn muscle.
Yikes, dear Grace (peace to you!). Do you have a heating pad/warm water bottle? Moist heat might help (ice, too, but that's not very comfortable this time of year). Take it easy, please, dear one.
Peace!
Your servant and a doulos of Christ,
SA, who hopes she has half the vigor and strength of dear Grace when she reaches a similar age...
my spiral note book with my inter-net info and pass words just up and vanished while in hospital.
therefore my tardiness in replying to terry's thread, sorry for the delay.. i may be more hard headed than terry.
i also fell off the front steps smacking my head against the house, that was in the morning, other fall was the evening of that day.
Thanks for letting us know you've come through, dear Q! The greatest of love and peace to you and your dear household!
YSSFS of Christ,
SA
hi everyone, its been over 4 months and i have not heard a response from the elders.
i called one of them a few weeks back.
he said they sent it to bethel and haven't heard back yet.
I do not know how anyone (including your wife) could read your letter and fail to see the heart-jerking questions with which you struggle.
The thing is, dear DOC (peace to you... and to you, along with strength, dear Greybeard!)... no one will actually read it, except perhaps someone in the Writing Department. The elders don't (they just forward them)... and the GB never even sees them. I learned this from the many, many letters I wrote over the years. One I actually hand-delivered to a GB member, who let me know that he wouldn't read it but pass it on to the Writing Department. That's how folks stay so much in the dark there: they DON'T READ... almost anything... except a WT publication.
Even so, it also doesn't matter what's published in the WT - their "Bible" is the "Reasoning" book. If they can't find an answer to your questions in there, they default to "wait on 'Jehovah'."
I cannot imagine you getting a reply from Bethel, as there ARE NO answers to your questions
Someone posted that since 4 months have passed, no answer is forthcoming. Don't be too sure - it took over a year for me to receive even an acknowledgement that my letter had been received, then almost another before an answer was provided... and it wasn't via letter to me put an article in the WT.
What they're MOST probably doing... is searching for Bible verses that will purport to "refute" the ones you included in your letter and what YOURS purport to state about the WTBTS (which is absolutely TRUE, but they will try and show how it doesn't mean THEM!). And they will find them. They have to... because they can't be SURE no elder read the letter. They HAVE to make a reply, even for that reason. And so they will. Either directly, in a letter to you... or via a WT article that addresses what "some" are "saying"... and how such ISN'T supported by the Bible.
As for your situation with your dear wife... my heart breaks for you... and those like you. But YOU, dear one, are a CLASSIC example of what my Lord meant about bringing a "sword"... and one NOT have greater love for father... mother... wife... than for him. And I think you know this, which is HOW you are able to stand in your faith, with integrity. Your dear wife is making this decision, not you. That "sword" is not a means to kill, but to "divide"... even to bone and marrow. Meaning... it will show what's truly IN a person... which is what you wife, I am sorry to say... is showing you: what's truly IN her... right now. Our hearts are where are "treasure" is... and she is letting you know where HER "treasure" is, right now. I think you know this, too... which is why you have made the decisions you have.
I HOPE you two can work it out... but know that you are not alone in such a situation if you cannot.
May the undeserved kindness and mercy of the MOST Holy One of Israel, JAHVEH, and the love... peace... and STRENGTH... of His Son and Christ, the MOST Holy One of Israel, JAHESHUA, the Chosen One of JAH (MischaJah) be upon you... if you so wish it... and that also extend to your entire household if you ASK for it.
YOUR servant and a doulos of Christ,
SA
