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LET'S MAKE A LITTLE WAGER

by You Know in

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perhaps you recall the instance in the bible where samson made a wager with the philistines that they couldnt guess his riddle.

as it turned out they wheedled the answer out of him by his fiancee, but the point is that they had a wager.

since the underlying assumption of the apostasy is that we are not living in the last days of this system of things, and that this world is not facing anything remotely like the biblical apocalypse, at least not any time soon, in the spirit of such antagonism, i would like to propose a similar wager.

AGuest

Hmmmm... You Know, dear, you said:

Apostates will say anything to try and con YK into being nice to them. (To no avail)...

I find that 'curious' because my Lord is recorded to have said:

"You HEARD...

(Hmmmm... 'heard' from WHOM, I wonder... Pharisees, maybe? Certainly not my Father, the Holy One of Israel, JAH OF ARMIES, as evidenced by the NWT cross-reference of Exodus 23:4...))

... that it was said: 'You must love your neighbor and
hate your enemy.'

The Law certainly didn't teach that. So, yep, sounds like a Pharisaical teaching to me...

HOWEVER, I SAY TO YOU: 'Continue to LOVE your enemies and to PRAY for those persecuting you; that YOU may prove YOURSELVES to be sons of your Father who is in the heavens, since HE makes His sun
rise upon wicked people AND good and makes it rain upon righteous people AND unrighteous. For if you love those loving YOU... WHAT REWARD DO YOU HAVE? Are not the tax collectors doing the same thing? And if you greet your brothers ONLY, what 'extraordinary' thing are YOU doing? Are not also the people of the nations doing the SAME thing? YOU must accordingly be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect."

But wait! My Lord goes ON to say:

He that has MY commandment...

And NOT the 'traditions and doctrines of men', which 'overstep the commandments of GOD...

... and observes THEM...

And NOT the 'traditions and doctrines of men', which 'overstep the commandments of GOD...

THAT one is he who LOVES ME...

Which would logically lead one to believe that the one who does NOT have them... and observe them... does NOT love him... and therefore, does NOT love God, yes? (Well, look at me... talking 'logic'. And some say I am nothing but 'fluff'... okayyyy...)

My Lord is recorded to have gone ON and said:

In turn, he that loves ME... WILL BE LOVED BY MY FATHER... and I will love HIM...

Oooh. Check THAT out... one has to love Christ, and DEMONSTRATE that love by having and observing his commandments... and in turn will be loved by GOD... and... and...

... and will PLAINLY SHOW MYSELF TO HIM.

Now, here is something! My dear brother, You Know, you TRULY think God and Christ are 'with you'. But how can that be, when you REPEATEDLY overstep this particular commandment of Christ, and by default, God... and demonstrate a blatant LACK of love... for those not 'like' you?

Is my Lord not recorded to have said:

If anyone loves ME, he WILL observe MY word...

(and I think that would supesede observing the 'traditions and doctrines of men', wouldn't YOU?)

and my Father will love HIM...

Which IS what you 'want', yes, brother? Along WITH...

and we shall COME TO HIM... and MAKE OUR ABODE... WITH him.

Hmmmm... and it doesn't seem as if this has occurred for you, dear You Know... yet... although I am SURE you 'wish' it. What is DOES seem, though, is that based on your continued REFUSAL to 'have' and 'observe' this particular 'commandment'... to LOVE YOUR ENEMIES... it is YOU... and not those you accuse... who is 'standing off' from God and Christ.

Therefore, as it stands right now... it is YOU... who are the true 'apostate'.

BUT... it does NOT have to be that way! It does NOT have to continue. Only you, though, can change it... by changing... YOUR HEART. Try 'softening' that puppy up, just a tad, my brother. Indeed, OPEN it... WIDEN it OUT... and let folks in... even your enemies. For until you do THAT... you do not allow God... and Christ... to come in, either. Stop closing, then, the door of your tender compassions... as you have been falsely taught to do by false prophets and false 'christs'. For they do NOT 'know' God, nor do they know the One whom He sent forth... and unfortunately, by listening to THEM... neither do you.

I am YOUR servant, still, as I am a slave of Christ, who gave his life for ALL who 'exercise' faith in him, and you could yet be numbered among these...

SJ

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What is the narrow gate?

by YoYoMama in

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matthew 7:13-14 .

go in through the narrow gate; because broad and spacious is the road leading off into destruction, and many are the ones going in through it; whereas narrow is the gate and cramped the road leading off into life, and few are the ones finding it.

"

AGuest

Dearest Room... and YoYo... may you both have peace!

I do not wish to be SO pendantic (well, okay, maybe I do...), but I am compelled by the spirit of my Father, JAH OF ARMIES, holy spirit, through Christ, to point out a 'slight' error in Room's understanding and interpretation of the 'narrow gate'.

Room, you said:

The narrow gate to which Jesus refers is the lonely path of personal integrity and accountablity that one trods indidivually, a way that cannot be squeezed through or traveled en masse, by tagging along, so to speak, in the expectation of virtue by association with a large movement.

May I point out to you that indeed what you have described in the 'cramped ROAD', but not the 'narrow gate'. The 'narrow gate' is my Lord, the Son and Christ of God, JAHESHUA MISCHAJAH. And it is THROUGH him... and ONLY through him... that one 'finds' themselves on the 'cramped road'... of integrity and accountability... such as you have described. Since YoYo's question was with regard to the GATE, however... that is the answer my Lord provided: himself. For HE is the 'gate' and 'door' through which one must 'enter'... for NO ONE comes to the Father... 'except through [him]."

The 'narrow gate', then, dear ones... is what one must go THROUGH... in order to find themselves on the 'cramped road'.

May the undeserved kindness and mercy of my God and Father, JAH OF ARMIES, and the peace of His Son and Christ, my Lord, JAHESHUA MISCHAJAH... be upon you... if you so wish it... to time indefinite.

A slave of Christ,

SJ

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Another WTBTS False Teaching...

by AGuest in

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i cannot remember the exact date of when the "society" once again attempted to fulfill revelation 22:18, 19 (and succeeded) with this teaching (i truthfully do not think of them very often anymore), but i am compelled by the spirit of my father, the holy one of israel, jah of armies, holy spirit, that is in me by means of my lord, his son, jaheshua mischajah, to point out yet another 'error'.. some time ago, the "society" taught a 'change' in the meaning of the words at luke 2:14. to wit, they said (and, thus, so does the nwt), that the true wording is:.

"glory in the heights above to god, and upon earth peace.

peace among men of good will.".

AGuest

Waits for Shelby to respond...

Okay, thank you... and peace to you...

wonders why god makes it so freakishly incomprehensible...

SJ responds: Methinks your blame is misdirected, dear LauraLisa. To wit:

"Among whom THE GOD OF THIS SYSTEM OF THINGS...
has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, that
the illlumination of the glorious goods news
about the Christ, who is the image of God...
might NOT shine through."

Seems you might be blaming the wrong 'god' here, dear one. Since you used a lower case 'g', though, I am not so sure. I assume you mean Almighty God, however, the Holy One of Israel, JAH, and to that I must say, nope, it was not THAT God that made things so "freakishly incomprehensible." In fact, HE has done just the opposite in that HE has given us a 'light'... and a 'way'... to comprehend ALL things.

Peace to you.

A slave of Christ,

SJ

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Another WTBTS False Teaching...

by AGuest in

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i cannot remember the exact date of when the "society" once again attempted to fulfill revelation 22:18, 19 (and succeeded) with this teaching (i truthfully do not think of them very often anymore), but i am compelled by the spirit of my father, the holy one of israel, jah of armies, holy spirit, that is in me by means of my lord, his son, jaheshua mischajah, to point out yet another 'error'.. some time ago, the "society" taught a 'change' in the meaning of the words at luke 2:14. to wit, they said (and, thus, so does the nwt), that the true wording is:.

"glory in the heights above to god, and upon earth peace.

peace among men of good will.".

AGuest

Dearest Julie... peace to you.. and guess what?!

That IS the same voice that I speak of. When I was a child, I did not question or doubt it, although I did not know its source. Not really. Unfortunately, as I grew older I began to 'think' for myself... much to my own detriment. That same voice told ME to stay out of the WTBTS, too. Did I listen? Well...

The thing IS... I didn't know WHOSE 'voice' it was, until he came to me and told me. That is why I say that ALL of us have the CAPABILITY to hear. NOW I know who it is and so I listen even harder. That is why I 'hear'. All YOU have to do is recognize who it is... listen... and respond to or obey HIM.

Anyway, all of us hear that same voice and as children have no problem with it. That is because as children we trust openly and see things a bit more purely. As we age, though, our own doubt, coupled with that put in us by the 'world' ("Susie, you're crazy. You HAVE no invisible friend, so stop talking to him, cause only CRAZY people talk to friends they can't see..."), leads us AWAY from him... rather than closer TO him.

Some even label it: 'intuition', a 'feeling', 'something told me', even our own mind and thoughts. But a child knows it is not these things... and has no doubt... because they are things that he/she COULDN'T have known on his/her own. And that is what YOU listened to, the 'voice' that was IN you... that told YOU what was right or wrong so that you 'knew'. Julie, it was NOT a feeling... but a voice. The one of whom my Father says, "LISTEN TO HIM."

Because he DOES speak to us... 'from the heavens'... which is NOT some laser light years away from us... but is IN us... for the kingdom... is 'in our MIDST'. God and Christ do not reside OUTSIDE of us, Julie... but dwell IN us. When we are young... and our hearts still 'pure'... they can dwell there. But as we age and become less 'clean' INSIDE... due to hatred, hypocrisy, etc., they cannot. But they don't leave us... we... leave them. That is why we are ALL of us... 'prodigal sons'.

And yet, all of us CAN 'return home'... if we so wish it. For the heart of the Holy One of Israel, JAH OF ARMIES, is merciful... and READY to forgive... in a LARGE way.

Again, I bid you peace,

YOUR servant and a slave of Christ,

SJ

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What is the narrow gate?

by YoYoMama in

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matthew 7:13-14 .

go in through the narrow gate; because broad and spacious is the road leading off into destruction, and many are the ones going in through it; whereas narrow is the gate and cramped the road leading off into life, and few are the ones finding it.

"

AGuest

Dearest YoYo... may you have peace!

By the spirit of my Father that is in me, holy spirit, by means of Christ, I say to you:

The 'narrow gate'...

Is the SAME thing as the 'Door';
Is the SAME thing as the 'Way';
Is the SAME thing as the 'Truth';
Is the SAME thing as the 'Life';
Is the SAME thing as the 'Tree [of Life]';
Is the SAME thing as the Word';
Is the SAME thing as the 'Light';

... ALL of which lead... to God...

John 14:6
John 10:1-9
John 8:12
John 1:1, 9, 14
Revelation 19:13
Psalm 119:105
Psalm 1:1-3
Revelation 22:1, 2
John 15:1
Isaiah 11:10
Jeremiah 23:5
Zechariah 3:8

... and ALL of which IS...

My Lord, JAHESHUA MISCHAJAH (Jah Saves; Chosen of Jah), the Son and Christ of the Most High God, the Holy One of Israel, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, JAH... of Armies.

Psalm 68:4

There IS no other way (to enter), gate (to open), door (to go through), truth (to know), life (to receive), tree (to eat from) or light (to see by). NO other. None.

And indeed, 'few'... are the ones finding... him.

John 1:41

I bid you peace.

A slave of Christ,

SJ

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Another WTBTS False Teaching...

by AGuest in

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i cannot remember the exact date of when the "society" once again attempted to fulfill revelation 22:18, 19 (and succeeded) with this teaching (i truthfully do not think of them very often anymore), but i am compelled by the spirit of my father, the holy one of israel, jah of armies, holy spirit, that is in me by means of my lord, his son, jaheshua mischajah, to point out yet another 'error'.. some time ago, the "society" taught a 'change' in the meaning of the words at luke 2:14. to wit, they said (and, thus, so does the nwt), that the true wording is:.

"glory in the heights above to god, and upon earth peace.

peace among men of good will.".

AGuest

Dearest Julie... peace to you!

I will respond, if I may. Thank you. You said:

I am curious Shelby... you claim only some of the bible is inspired and that you are not limited to some book re: your beliefs.

That is quite correct. Not all of the Bible is 'inspired'. Luke, for example, even lets us KNOW that his books (Gospel and Acts) were not, stating that they were written at the behest of the Roman ruler Theophilus (and not God or Christ), and that he got HIS information from those who DID know and see things (and not God or Christ). For something to be 'inspired' of God... it would have to have come directly FROM God... or from God by means of Christ. Either way.

Hey that's great I don't get any of my beliefs from any books so I can relate to that.

Cool. I am glad we see a bit eye to eye on SOMETHING.

What I do not fully understand is how all of your beliefs seem rooted in the bible and then, of course, your own interpretation of the bible.

Well, in truth, Julie, not ALL of my 'beliefs'. I will tell you how my Lord said it to me: "Everything that I will tell you has been written, in the scriptures and other writings. Yet, not everything that is WRITTEN is what I will tell you. For false scribes have added to and taken away. If, therefore, you wish to know what is TRUTH, then you must listen to me. For "all the sayings of MY mouth are in righteousnes. Among them, there is NOTHING crooked."

John 5:39, 40
Proverbs 8:7, 8

In that "Light", then, I interpret NOTHING. I go with what I hear from him. He knows what he meant... or what my Father meant... when things were handed down to be written, as well as the heart of those who wrote but were NOT under inspiration.

Now, me? Girlfriend, I have tried SO hard to tell you that I don't know this stuff! Julie, I am NO different or better than you... or anyone else. TRULY! The ONLY difference is that I LISTEN... and don't dismiss what I hear as coming from myself, or demons, or drugs or whatever. I KNOW who is speaking, and I give the credit TO that One.

So if someone is looking to be a true worshipper/follower of The Lord, what is one to follow if not "God's Word"?

God's Word IS the One to be followed, Julie. But... the BIBLE... is NOT God's "Word"!

John 1:1, 14
Revelation 19:13

The REASON that the 'scriptures' and verses are included is SOLELY for the purpose of those who CANNOT 'hear' truth... but MUST have a means to 'test the inspired expression'. I can say God/Christ told me such and such all day long; some, though, need to see if what I say I am told... is TRUTH... and the scriptures/verses is their only means of believing that. IF, however, they would just LISTEN... they, too, would hear what I hear. For my Lord speaks to ALL. Unfortunately, not all 'hear'.

I have seen you say we are all capable of "'hearing'" God's messages and we just need to open our "'spiritual'" ears, like you.

Actually, you cannot open your own 'ears'. You can, however, open your HEART... and RECEIVE them INTO it... and then THEY... will open your ears. And your eyes.

But then you post info as you are "permitted".

Well, honey, what I share is NOT mine! If I were to say it was, I would be guilty of plagerism... among other things. Not giving glory to God and Christ, another.

That makes me think you "'hear'" stuff all are not privvy to.

Not true. Only difference? I am 'willing' to hear. Are you? TRULY?! Because many SAY they are, but then wish to pick and choose what they hear. Believe me, I don't always hear 'good' stuff... in fact, MOST of what I 'hear' has to do with ME. But... I don't reject it. I figure, they know me better than I do, and if THEY say something exists in me, well, who am I to argue? I accept it. And I obey what I am told. For that reason, I am 'given' more. That's it; that's all.

I've also seen you refer to yourself as a "chosen one", or at least likened yourself to them. Is this something that one attains from "'hearing'" and "'listening'"?

By the word 'chosen', that is what an 'anointing' is. And I have received the promised holy spirit, thus been 'anointed' and therefore, chosen. Doesn't mean I can't reject it, though. Some do. One receives such 'choosing' in the following way:

1. One has prepared one's heart to receive God and Christ; therefore, one 'wishes' to receive holy spirit... life's 'water'.

Acts 10:4, 44, 45
Revelation 22:17

2. My Father, JAH OF ARMIES, 'hears' the 'heart' of such one... and
'draws' such one to Christ.

John 6:44

3. Such one can be drawn... or pulled away. Free choice.

Genesis 4:7
John 12:6
John 13:27

4. God's Word, the Christ, then 'examines' such one... and if such one is found 'deserving'... chooses such one and manifests such choosing by pouring out holy spirit upon such one to 'cleanse' them, so that he and the Father can thereafter 'enter' into such one and dwell/reside IN them.

John 1:47, 48
Hebrews 4:12, 13

Such 'deserving' is not based on such one's 'worthiness', for we are, NONE of us, 'worthy'. In fact, such choosing is due to UNDESERVED kindness. But what makes one 'deserving' is that one demonstrates a heart that CAN be written on... that either has the 'law' of love... which is born out in MERCY and FORGIVENESS... written ON it, or will accept the writing of such law upon it. If one is the type to foster hatred, hypocrisy and animosity, such one is 'unclean'... and therefore, 'undeserving'. That's it; that's all.

Acts 10:4

And MANY are invited (drawn to the Christ by the Father), but FEW... are chosen.

I mean if the "'way'" to God isn't the bible, what is then?

It was my Lord who said: "I am the Way... and the Truth... and the Life. NO ONE comes to the Father, EXCEPT THROUGH ME."

John 14:6

You seem to think you have it.

"Have" it? Okay, dear one. The task, however, is to KEEP it.

John 15:4-7

How do others get to where you feel you have gotten to?

It is VERY easy, dear Julie. VERY. All one need do is STOP listening to earthling man, and STOP putting their trust in earthling man, and STOP following earthling man... and LISTEN to, TRUST and FOLLOW... the Lamb of God... wherever HE goes. And all it takes is faith... "the size of a mustard seed". Faith that does not care whether others think you crazy or mad or delusional... faith that will prompt you to BUILD that ark, even though it has never rained by YOU know you heard the command... faith to go to whomever you are sent and speak whatever you are told to speak, whether they 'hear'... or they 'refrain', for you KNOW that what you are speaking is NOT yours... but His that 'sent' you.

Curiously yours,

And there is absolutely NOTHING wrong with curiosity, dear Julie. Nothing at all. I only hope that by means of the spirit of my Father that is in me, by means of Christ, I have been able to help assauge some of yours.

May the undeserved kindess and mercy of my God and Father, the Holy One of Israel, JAH OF ARMIES, and the peace His Son and Christ, my Lord, JAHESHUA MISCHAJAH, be upon YOU... if you so 'wish'... and if YOU are indeed 'thirsting'... and if you are 'hearing'... to time indefinite. If so, then I invite you, too, to:

"COME! Take 'life's water'... free!"

YOUR servant, and a slave of Christ,

SJ

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Another WTBTS False Teaching...

by AGuest in

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i cannot remember the exact date of when the "society" once again attempted to fulfill revelation 22:18, 19 (and succeeded) with this teaching (i truthfully do not think of them very often anymore), but i am compelled by the spirit of my father, the holy one of israel, jah of armies, holy spirit, that is in me by means of my lord, his son, jaheshua mischajah, to point out yet another 'error'.. some time ago, the "society" taught a 'change' in the meaning of the words at luke 2:14. to wit, they said (and, thus, so does the nwt), that the true wording is:.

"glory in the heights above to god, and upon earth peace.

peace among men of good will.".

AGuest

May you all have peace...

For those of you who still wish to put some 'store' in what the WTBTS teaches:

I cannot remember the exact date of when the "Society" once again attempted to fulfill Revelation 22:18, 19 (and succeeded) with this teaching (I truthfully do not think of them very often anymore), but I am compelled by the spirit of my Father, the Holy One of Israel, JAH OF ARMIES, holy spirit, that is in me by means of my Lord, His Son, JAHESHUA MISCHAJAH, to point out yet another 'error'.

Some time ago, the "Society" taught a 'change' in the meaning of the words at Luke 2:14. To wit, THEY said (and, thus, so does the NWT), that the true wording is:

"Glory in the heights above to God, and upon earth peace
peace among men of good will."

However, that is an erroneous rendering of what is written in Greek. In TRUTH, what was written and MEANST was:

"Glory to God in the HIGHEST...

- Meaning there is no HIGHER glory to be given than that to be given to Almighty God, the Holy One of Israel and God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob... in heaven AND on earth... even the glory given to the Christ. For while my Lord has been glorified and IS glorified... his glory is NOT the 'highest'. Such belongs to my Father, the Holy One of Israel, JAH OF ARMIES, as even my Lord himself acknowledged: "The Father is GREATER than I am."

And such glory was NOT only 'in the heights', as the WTBTS erroneously teaches, but had now become manifest 'on the EARTH' as well! For such glory was manifested in that my Lord is "the RELFECTION of His glory and the EXACT representation of His very being." No, my Lord is NOT the Holy One of Israel... but the 'reflection' of that One. Just as when looking in a mirror, then, one sees oneself, but the 'image' is NOT one's self... when looking at my Lord, my brothers saw... and I see... the Father. Since no man can see God and live, my Father gave mankind an 'image' upon which to gaze. My Lord, His Son and Christ, JAHESHUA MISCHAJAH.

For just as Moses lifted up the copper serpent in the wilderness, so, too, the Son must be lifted up. HIS face... we CAN 'behold'... and still live. However, just like then, had the Israelites looked at the one HOLDING the copper serpent, Moses, they would have died. Dear ones, it was the 'IMAGE' that they had to put their gaze on... and NOT the one HOLDING UP the image. The same is today: our gaze is NOT to be upon God, the one holding UP the Christ... but upon the One God... is holding up. HIS 'image'... His Son. Something that WE did not 'make'... after 'anything that is in heaven or on earth'... but that HE created and gave us.)

and on earth peace...

- Which was TRUTH, for at that particular time, peace WAS 'on earth'... and through such peace God... was 'with' mankind... in that the physical manifestation of TRUE PEACE... the PRINCE of peace, my Lord, the Son of God, JAHESHUA MISCHAJAH... was indeed 'on the earth'.

goodwill toward man."

- In that God had once again held out an 'olive branch'... a root... 'SPROUT'!... and allowed the 'dove' of His spirit to be made available toward man, by means of the person of my Lord.

God, then... in sending Christ... OFFERED A GOODWILL GESTURE TOWARD MANKIND... HIS SON... IF... they would RECEIVE such one. And all those that DID... received not only God's good will... but His peace. For His Son came to earth AS A MEANS OF PEACE BETWEEN GOD AND MAN, as OFFERED... by God. 'Peace'... "not the way the world gives it, but [HIS] peace"... that which is between God... and man. Yes, indeed, he came to bring not peace, but a sword... but such sword was for those who would NOT receive him... and thus divided households.

However, those who DID receive him... and do yet receive him... receive TRUE peace, "not the way the world gives it", but by means of a CLEANSED conscious by means of holy spirit! That, dear ones, is the 'baptism' that is 'saving' us... not the putting away of the filth of the flesh... but... THE REQUEST TO GOD FOR A CLEAN CONSCIENCE. This is the 'baptism with spirit' that John the Baptist spoke about!

Such ones then KNOW that as long as they remain 'in union' with Christ... they have "NO condemnation". Such ones can live, then... and sleep... without worry, without heavy hearts, without burdened consciences, and without fear of condemnation and everlasting death. Because they have been granted to 'enter'... by means of the 'door' that is the CHRIST... into' [God's] 'rest'.

May the one that is wishing, and thirsting, and has 'ears' to hear... hear what the Spirit and the Bride KEEP saying:

"COME! Take 'life's water'... free!"

A servant to the Household of God, Israel, and a slave of Christ,

SJ

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Are we in Jesus's Reign?

by ballistic in

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sorry, to ask a basic question.

(and i have been accused of requiring spiritual milk in an email),.

but i just want to get this straight:.

AGuest

No. That's not correct. After Christ was resurrected he went and sat down at the right hand of Jehovah until such time as he is given dominion.

Oh, goodness, YK... please read Psalm 110:1, 2 AND 1 Corinthians 15:24, 25... and GET THE SENSE OF IT:

Psalm 110:1 -

"The JAH said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool... rule thou in the midst of thine enemies."

1 Corinthians 15:24, 25 -

"Then the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet."

What this is SAYING, YK, is that my Lord began his rule over his 'belongings', as a king and priest in the manner of Melchizedek, and CONTINUES to rule... IN THE MIDST OF HIS ENEMIES.

Hear... or refrain. Follow the Lamb... or follow earthling man. Your choice.

A slave of Christ,

SJ

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Are we in Jesus's Reign?

by ballistic in

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sorry, to ask a basic question.

(and i have been accused of requiring spiritual milk in an email),.

but i just want to get this straight:.

AGuest

SIGH!

YOU KNOW says:

Of course, there are hypocrites within the organization, but I don't see the organization as a whole being judged by Jehovah with that measure.

However, my LORD said: "Beware the leaven of the Pharisees... which is HYPOCRISY..." and "a LITTLE leaven... FERMENTS THE WHOLE LUMP."

ERICH says:

Nonsense. How could Jesus' instruction in Mat.27:19 become fulfilled without having an earthly organization?

Now, I am THINKING that dear Erich meant Matt. 28:19, and to that reply that my LORD said:

"My kingdom of NO part of this world."

... as well as...

"The scribes (copiers of law) and Pharisees (self-appointed translators of law) have seated THEMSELVES in the seat of Moses... Neither be called leaders, for YOUR leader is one..."

and... "The doorkeeper opens to this one and the sheep listen to HIS voice, and he call his own sheep out. When he has got all his own out, HE goes before them, and the sheep follow HIM, because THEY KNOW HIS VOICE. A stranger they will by NO means follow but will FLEE from him, because they do not KNOW the voice of strangers. MY sheep listen to MY voice, and I know THEM... and THEY... follow ME."

In addition, there are Paul's reported words that:

"Not that we are master's OVER YOUR FAITH..."

... as well as the fact that the congregations met in HOMES...

and direct dear Erich to read the Book of the Acts of the Apostles and show where at any point therein, there was a organization... of any type. Indeed, even the 'circumcision' matter was decided upon in THIS way:

1. James made the decision
2. Older men AND entire congregation considered it
3. ENTIRE congregation sent Paul and Barnabas out

Why a letter from the 'older men'? Because under the OLD systems of things, the older men were consulted to make decisions. Since the it was the OLDER men who was teaching 'against' the NEW way anyway (THEY were trying to put men of the nations under the OLD Covenant by telling them that they HAD to get circumcised... even though Peter had once disputed it with them and now Paul and Barnabas were...), the people would have to know that such older men CONCURRED with the decision of the holy spirit that circumcision of the flesh was not necessary.

In light, then, of the fact that my Lord's kingdom is NO part of THIS world, and that the TRUE and LAST 'visible' representation of God [the WTBTS says "the Lord"] on earth was the TEMPLE AT JERUSALEM, and the fact that such temple 'made with hands' was replaced a temple of 'living stones', the builder and maker of which is GOD... by means of Christ... why in the WORLD would God and/or Christ need ANYTHING 'earthly' to 'represent' Him/them?

Have you not read and can you not hear and GET THE SENSE of what is written at Philippians 3:19?

If you continue, dear ones, with your 'minds upon things on EARTH,' including eternal life in the FLESH... you will be misled, as you are being misled. For as my Lord said:

"THE FLESH... IS OF NO USE AT ALL."

('Earthling man'... always 'overstepping the commandments of God with the traditions and doctrines... of men.')

A slave of Christ,

SJ

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Are we in Jesus's Reign?

by ballistic in

jw
friends

sorry, to ask a basic question.

(and i have been accused of requiring spiritual milk in an email),.

but i just want to get this straight:.

AGuest

Hmmmmm....

"All scripture is inspired and beneficial... for setting matters straight."

"In that it is impossible for God to lie."

"When that one arrives, the spirit of the truth, that one shall lead you into all truth, for he will not speak what is his own, but will speak what is mine."

Yes, You Know? And yet, you say:

So, while apostates are presently being used by the demons to point out various inconsistencies in order to stumble as many as possible, they have no clue as to how such inconsistencies may be reconciled to the prophecies at hand.

First, I must warn you, by the spirit of my Father, the Holy One of Israel, JAH OF ARMIES, that is in me, holy spirit, by means of His Son and Christ, my Lord, JAHESHUA MISCHAJAH, you again blaspheme. How so? IF there are inconsistencies, as you have here stated, AND they are being 'pointed out'... how can it be so BY DEMONS? How can 'apostates', who supposedly have given themselves OVER to demons, be used BY demons, to point out 'inconsistencies' in what is SUPPOSED to be TRUTH... according to you? What 'power' has been granted to DEMONS to point out inconsistencies in what is SUPPOSED to be 'beneficial for teaching... and setting things straight." As my Master asked YOUR forefathers, "How can a house divided against itself stand?" If what is written is TRUTH (as you believe it to be), how then can it have 'inconsistencies' and how can such be shown... by DEMONS?

And also, I ask you: specifically, what 'inconsistencies', You Know? And how can there BE 'inconsistencies'? Neither God nor Christ can or do lie... and what is written bears testimony for itself, yes? At least, according to YOUR way of thinking, yes?

It is your leaders who have been used, You Know, by Satan as false prophets AND false christs (anointed)... to mislead, if possible... EVEN THE CHOSEN ONES. Including yourself. But, it does NOT have to be so. You CAN 'buy eyesalve' and have your 'blindness' removed, and your 'eyes OPENED', so that you can 'wake up'... at ANY time. All you need DO... is stop following the 'hired man', to whom the sheep do NOT belong, and who has abandoned the sheep to the 'wolf'... the 'wild beast' that IS the WTBTS, etc., Inc.... and follow INSTEAD... the Fine Shepherd, the Lamb of God... and listen to HIS voice... rather than the 'traditions and doctrines'... of MEN... which overstep the commandments... of God.

Which commandment? With regard to 'wars and reports of wars': "See that you are not frightened, FOR THE END IS NOT YET." They missed that 'revelation', dear You Know. And apparently, so have you.

A slave of Christ,

SJ