For that to even be a remote possibility, the WTS would have to change a lot of things. So many things, in fact, that they would no longer be recognized.
CountryGuy
i don't mean this as an insult, more of a life experience thing.
i saw a lot of people leave in my years there and a lot were angry with the religion and the people, and some even protested the kingdom halls and wrote things in the newspapers.
a lot though, came back in time, as it was just the comfort zone they felt at ease in.
For that to even be a remote possibility, the WTS would have to change a lot of things. So many things, in fact, that they would no longer be recognized.
CountryGuy
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if you weigh a couple of pounds more than you thought, do you try moving the scale around a few inches left or right to see if you weigh less..... how about stepping more in the back or front of the scale and see if you weigh less.. or maybe put the needle at -1 lbs just to feel better .
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At weight watchers, wear the same clothes each time you get weighed. And use the restroom first.Did I mention use the restroom?
BINGO! I always go to the restroom before I weigh. Actually, truth be known, I go before and after.... (Is the TMI? Just in case you wondered, I'm usually about 0.5 to 1.0 lighter.)
CountryGuy: who's lost 87lbs since last July
are they liberal minded?
strict diehards?
nutty?
My family is completely nuts! But, all of them, except one cousin, have been DF'd, DA'd, or quietly faded, thank goodness! He doesn't talk to any of us anymore, hmmm... not really seeing the down side here...
CountryGuy
we all know that our simply being here is considered an act of apostasy by witnesses.
whether they know you frequent such boards or not, are you considered an "apostate" by the witnesses?
You should see the absolute look of fear come into the dubs' eyes when they run into me.
TO, that's some cool aposta-power to have. You'll have to teach me how to develop mine.
I'm not sure if they consider me to be an apostate or not. I guess I could ask them, if they weren't shunning me.
CountryGuy
i have been living in my new house since november.
i have been home every weekend, saturday and sunday mornings.
i live in a big city, in a densely housed area.. there has not been a single jw door-knocker this entire time!!!!
I did a fade and a move out of state:
-Lived in Missouri for two years, no JWs.
-Lived in Texas for six years, no JWs but did find an old copy of the Watchtower rolled up next to my door knob (threw it away)..
-Moved back to AR three years ago, no JWs at my door, but I did get "Gang Blessed" at Wal-Mart about 2.5 years ago by two elders.
I gave the two elders my address and phone number and told them that they were welcome to come by or call at anytime. They never did, thank goodness. (This was before I discovered JWD and had any ammo to throw back at them.) Now that I think about it, they asked me a lot of questions about my views on the organization. I don't remember what I said, but I did repeat what I thought they wanted to hear. They probably just announced that I was no longer a JW and left it at that.
CountryGuy
is it just me or are the winter olympics boring?.
i dunno, maybe ice hockey sometimes is interesting and a few of the short speed skating events...but ice skating, all the skiing events, even snowboarding....it all seems pretty boring to me.
and i like to ski but watching it on tv - boring.. the summer games are so much more interesting.. -eduardo
Boring? That's hard to say, it really depends on your taste.
Do I think the biathalon, ice dancing and luge events are boring: Yes
Do I think the hocky matches, ice skating and speed skating events are boring: No
We all like different things. Some of us love sports, but only as participants, not as spectators. Others of us are awed by the accomplishments of others. Surely there's at least one event that every person enjoys. And, in the US, the networks of NBC are broadcasting the Olympics, so surely you can catch that one event if you wish.
I do have to say that I never watched an Olympic event until I left the JWs. I was all brainwashed into believing that it would gt caught up in all that national pride and displease Jehovah the WTS.
CountryGuy
what is your favorite fictional literary character.
which character do you identify with most?
i was a well-read kid and my favorite series of books were the elric saga by michael moorcock.
I'm a big fan of the Harry Potter series. I read the first couple because I worked in a bookstore at the time and wanted to be able to speak to customers about the series. I got hooked. Now, I can't wait for the next book!
CountryGuy
My mother-in-law passed away last May. She had a massive stroke and went into a coma. After a day (and surgery), the doctors were able to determine that she was brain-dead. And, if/when we took her off the respirator, she would die.
Two years earlier, when she got her AR drivers license, she signed up to be an organ donor as well. When the hospital brought up her ID, it showed that she had wanted to be a donor. After confirming it with the family, they contacted ARORA (the Arkansas Regional Organ Recovery Agency).
A while back I read an article that stated that organ donors are billed for the collection of the organs.
An agency representative came to visit with us and was VERY supportive, VERY understanding and answered all of our questions. But, the bottom line was that SHE wanted this to happen, so we never thought twice about it. I can't speak for other states or countries, but once my partner signed the documents ARORA took care of the bills from that point on.
Right after she passed, we were told that her corneas were collected. One was transplanted and the recipient was doing well. The other was not able to be transplanted, but was able to be used by the medical school, so it was still helping people. Then recently, we received a letter telling us that her liver and both her kidneys were transplanted and all recipients were doing well. The letter was very generic and said something along the lines of "Your mother's liver was transplanted into a 57-year-old grandmother from Louisiana. The recipient is doing well and shows no sign of rejecting the organ." Knowing that her liver is helping someone keep their grandmother, is very comforting.
ARORA also has an after-care program for the benefit of the donor's family. We haven't participated in any of the events, but have made plans to attend our first later this month. The agency along with Little Rock's new Episphere (digital planetarium from what I can tell), have made arangements to have donor families name a star after their loved ones. The event will allow us to see the star that was named after her. Then when the nieces and nephews visit on spring break, we can take them back and they will show them their grammy's star.
I currently am not an organ donor. But, my partner and my family both know that I want to be. I will offically sign up to be when it comes time to renew my license. I never thought about it until now and I would have to say that my aversion of it was simply left over from my JW days.
CountryGuy
a family in my congregation, who has recently fallen on some hard times, just had some hard times fall on them.
last saturday, a very large tree fell right square on their house.
no one was harmed, but it definitely hurt their wallets.
Working for others feels amazing, and chainsaws are an incredible stress reliever.
Ain't that the truth!
Great job, Richie! If only the JWs in Brooklyn could act more like you.
CountryGuy
after reading about puternuts (ari) suicide, and also reading about sabine and js losing their daughter to this cult, i think it would be a fitting memorial, so to speak, to write a list of all the people we know who died because of this cult.
i also know that cruzanheart lost her dad to it, too.
i'm sure there are many here that can make a list of suicides brought on by the shunning/threatening policies of the watchtower cult.
I attempted suicide in 1988 at the age of 16. Thank goodness my mother found me in time.
About two years later, my friend E. shot himself in the head. He was 19. He was one of the nicest people I've ever met. It was a total shock for everyone. He left a note, but his family never told us what was in it.
CountryGuy