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  Bumperstickers of DB participants

  by Seven in

  1. social
  2. humour

  i noticed these bumperstickers on the cars of some of our posters here:.

  it's not just for breakfast anymore!.

  2.redhorsewoman-cats-the other white meat.. 3.carmel-constipated people don't give a crap.. 4.waiting-who lit the fuse on your tampon?.

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  AhHah

  Waiting,

  You did notice that your mystery post was dated Aug. 28, right? (please don't shoot me ... )
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  Research and Honesty

  by TR in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  when i was a jw, i thought i knew enough about the religion to try to convince others to join.

  in reality, i only knew what other jw's and the wts told me.

  i admit to being gullible and naive when at a young age i wasn't sure what i wanted out of life.

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  AhHah

  TR and Path,

  Am I mistaken, or do I remember correctly that Dubby decided to drop his old handle and start posting as TR/Tom?

  (When Simon Says gives us a search by Profile we will be able to keep these things straight much more easily, dontchaknow?)

  Edited by - AhHah on 27 October 2000 20:11:54
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  Running up that hill

  by Kristen in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  running up that hill.

  it doesn't hurt me.. (yeah yeah yo).

  be running up that road,.

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  AhHah

  You don't want to hurt me,
  (yeah yeah yo)
  But see how deep the bullet lies.
  (yeah yeah yo)
  Unaware I'm tearing you asunder.
  (yeah yeah yo)
  Ooh, there is thunder in our hearts.
  (yeah yeah yo)
  Is there so much hate for the ones we love?
  (yeah yeah yo)
  Tell me, we both matter, don't we?

  Kristen,

  I can relate. Good choice. What is the music like?
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  Bumperstickers of DB participants

  by Seven in

  1. social
  2. humour

  i noticed these bumperstickers on the cars of some of our posters here:.

  it's not just for breakfast anymore!.

  2.redhorsewoman-cats-the other white meat.. 3.carmel-constipated people don't give a crap.. 4.waiting-who lit the fuse on your tampon?.

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  AhHah

  Hey All,

  Can you believe it? I was driving around today, and I'll be darned if I also didn't see some posters out and about! They had more funny bumper stickers on their cars, too! Check these out:

  Waiting: "I'm out of estrogen -- And I have a gun."

  RedhorseWoman: "You have the right to remain silent, So please shut up."

  SevenofNine: "Princess, Having had sufficient experience with princes, Seeks frog."

  Roamingfeline: "So many men, So few who can afford me."

  Simon: "And your point is ...?"

  SolidSender: "Do not start with me. You will not win."

  Zep: "Practice safe eating. Always use condiments."

  Frenchy: "If marriage were outlawed, only outlaws would have in-laws."

  Pathofthorns: "I don't mind going nowhere as long as it is an interesting Path."

  Carmel: "I don't get even, I get odder."

  Friend: "My inferiority complex is not as good as yours."

  TR/Dubby: "Dijon Vu -- the same mustard as before."

  AhHah: "Do not walk behind me, for I may not lead. Do not walk ahead of me, for I may not follow. Do not walk beside me, either. Just leave me the hell alone."

  Spectromize: "It may be that your sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others."

  Scorpion: "Visualize whirled peas."

  FYI - I came across the above and thought it would be fun to try and match some up -- I know -- some are a real stretch.

  Disclaimers: *****************************************************************************

  The above has been presented for its entertainment value only and should not be construed to represent value judgments of any actual individuals which may or may not correspond to profile names of said individuals.

  This has been a test of the emergency humor broadcast network. Had this been an actual humor emergency, you would have been instructed where to tune in your area for actual humor.

  Any similarities to actual persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental and is neither intended or implied.

  Due to my strong personal convictions, I wish to express that the preceeding in no way endorses a belief in the occult.

  Results not typical. Your results may vary.

  Performed by professional drivers on a closed track.

  Do not try this at home.

  Batteries are not included.

  Offer not valid where restricted or prohibited.

  Not an actual doctor, actor impersonation.

  No warranty is expressed or implied.

  Caveat emptor.

  Edited by - AhHah on 27 October 2000 16:31:2

  Edited by - AhHah on 27 October 2000 16:34:12
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  Return to the K.H.?

  by TR in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  lately, i've been toying with idea of visiting the local cong.

  to find out wassup in the local territory.

  the trouble is, some might recognize me.

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  Grunt,

  Your post captures the living nightmare, the frustration that so many of us have to live with. How does one remain silent with loved ones, knowing that any effort made to enlighten them will probably just alienate them and likely prevent any possible future communication that might otherwise happen when they are ready? Every day I think about questions that I would like to pose to them, to help them wake up to the reality of their religion.

  I was thinking about asking how they feel about the JW practice of disfellowshipping -- whether it is really scriptural and consistent with Christian love. How would they feel if I told them that Christ never intended for elders to meet in judicial committees and pass judgment on their brothers? Would they feel that I do not have God's spirit? The point is, that soon the Borg will probably say those very same things when they reverse their unchristian practice -- to save their own asses from being dissolved in many countries. How will they feel then, if I have made them react now to what they believe is a true Christian practice? Would it make a difference? Would it make them think?
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  They're so confused

  by HAL in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  gather round my children for your educational seminar.. why do you think there are 190 forum members, but only 6 or 7 post?.

  sites like this are most useful to us to determine the number and strength of the so-called reform movement.. once identified, most receive loving direction and no longer post.

  many who remain are typical born-again posers, witnesses who left years ago, or individuals assigned by us to stimulate conversation.. (note how the composite simon posts when things are slow.

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  AhHah

  Hey HALitosis (no apology - the handle fits, so wear it),

  I'm just venturing a wild guess here ... but are you an immature 15 year old? Don't you have a video game or something that you'd rather be playing? That post was really lame. If you are going to post fiction, you could at least try to make it somewhat believable!

  Edited by - AhHah on 26 October 2000 17:11:4
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  Research and Honesty

  by TR in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  when i was a jw, i thought i knew enough about the religion to try to convince others to join.

  in reality, i only knew what other jw's and the wts told me.

  i admit to being gullible and naive when at a young age i wasn't sure what i wanted out of life.

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  AhHah

  Peter,

  Let me extend a very warm welcome and thank you for posting. I look forward to hearing more about your experiences and what it was that caused you to question your beliefs in the religion. Was this forum helpful then or now?
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  The lost books of the Bible

  by Kristen in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  and the lost books of eden.

  books that didn't make the cut into the official 66 we have now.

  anyone ever read or research them?

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  AhHah

  Zep,

  Excellent find! Thanks.

  Does anyone here have any impressions about either of the sites referenced on this thread?

  How about you, Seven? What do you make of it?
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  Research and Honesty

  by TR in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  when i was a jw, i thought i knew enough about the religion to try to convince others to join.

  in reality, i only knew what other jw's and the wts told me.

  i admit to being gullible and naive when at a young age i wasn't sure what i wanted out of life.

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  AhHah

  Tom,

  You are right. The WT indoctrination demonstrates how very powerful the cult influence is. One is taught to dismiss or filter out every contradictory thought, as not even worthy of consideration, since it could not possibly be true if it did not come from God, as revealed by God's only true spokesperson, the cult leader, in the JW experience, the Governing Body.

  I believe that the best interests of society are served when cults are exposed for what they truly are. I hope that we are doing our share. Sometimes, I feel that I should do more.
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  The lost books of the Bible

  by Kristen in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  and the lost books of eden.

  books that didn't make the cut into the official 66 we have now.

  anyone ever read or research them?

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  AhHah

  Seven,

  That is an extremely interesting site! In view of recent posts about the so-called Christian suppression of women in the Church, I have pasted the following:

  Indeed, the Church's own apostolic constitutions were compiled on this basis. They state, "We do not permit our women to teach in the Church, only to pray and to hear those who teach. Our master, when he sent us the twelve, did nowhere send out a woman; for the head of the woman is the man, and is it not reasonable that the body should govern the head?".

  This was rubbish, but it was for this very reason that dozens of gospels were not selected-because they made it quite clear that there were very many active women in the ministry of Jesus. Mary Magdalene, Martha, Helena-Salome, Mary Jacob Cleophas, Joanna. These were not only ministry disciples; they're recorded as priestesses in their own right, running exemplary schools of worship in the Nazarene tradition.

  In St Paul's Epistle to the Romans, Paul makes specific mention of his own female helpers: Phoebe, for example, whom he called a sister of the Church; Julia; Priscilla, who laid down her net for the cause. The New Testament is alive with women disciples, but the Church ignored them all. When the Church's precepts of ecclesiastical discipline were drawn up, they stated, "It is not permitted for a woman to speak in Church, nor to claim for herself any share in any masculine function". But the Church itself had decided that this was a masculine function.

  The Church was so frightened of women that it instituted a rule of celibacy: a rule for its priests, a rule that became a law in 1138; a law that persists today. Well, this rule has never been quite what it appears on the surface, because, when one reads the rule, when one studies history, one can see that it was never, ever sexual activity as such that bothered the Church. The specific definition that made this rule possible was priestly intimacy with women. Why? Because women become wives and lovers. The very nature of motherhood is a perpetuation of bloodlines. It was this that bothered the Church: a taboo subject-motherhood, bloodlines. This image had to be separated from the necessary image of Jesus.

  But it wasn't as if the Bible had said any such thing. St Paul had said in his Epistle to Timothy that a bishop should be married to one wife and that he should have children; that a man with experience in his own family household is actually far better qualified to take care of the Church. Even though the Roman Church authorities claimed to uphold the teaching of St Paul in particular, they chose completely to disregard this explicit directive to suit their own ends, so that Jesus' own marital status could be strategically ignored.

  But the Church's celibate, unmarried image of Jesus was fully contradicted in other writings of the era. It was openly contradicted in the public domain until the perpetuation of the truth was proclaimed a punishable heresy only 450 years ago in 1547, the year that Henry VIII died in England.

  It's not just the Christian New Testament that suffers from these sexist restrictions. A similar editing process was applied to the Jewish-based Old Testament, and this made it conveniently suitable to be added to the Christian Bible. This is made particularly apparent by a couple of entries that bypassed the editors' scrutiny.

  Also, very intersting is the assertion that Jesus married and established a bloodline that exists to this day.

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  I just finished reading most of parts 2 and 3. This research is really radical. I will defintely look into this and try to find some additional evidence for or against these arguments. This could really explain much of the seeming discrepancies of the Bible. Why haven't I heard about this before? Does anyone else here know any more about this?

  Edited by - AhHah on 26 October 2000 2:42:0