hey y'all,.
hope this works.
if not, see scanned article under the thread about donating books to the local libraries..
I have been checking out Beacon http://www.xjw.com/ but I don't see any articles by Ray Franz. Also, it does not seem to have a forum. However, there are many interesting articles on JW doctrine, etc.
I thought this article "Paradise on Earth - When?" was interesting. http://www.xjw.com/paradise.html
Edited by - AhHah on 29 October 2000 16:18:59
guess where i am?
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i've posted this dunig the watchtower study at the hall using a mobile phone and a pocket pc - only a few strange looks from the people sat near.. i'll be glad when its time to go home - its' as boring as ever !
Simon,
We may have to start calling you Simon Templar (although I kind of liked Simon Says)! Did you ever watch "The Saint", an old TV series starring England's own Roger Moore? That was before he became Bond, James Bond.
p.s. What is the latest on how to post a web link here? Did I tell Waiting right?
hey y'all,.
hope this works.
if not, see scanned article under the thread about donating books to the local libraries..
Waiting,
Thanks for the info. Puppylove says she has seen the website "Beacon of Light for Former Jehovah's Witnesses." I will check it out. If I find Ray Franz there, I'll let you know. I wonder what profile he posts with?
p.s. did you leave a space between 'url' and the link 'http:// ...'? This has always worked when I have posted a link.
Edited by - AhHah on 1 November 2000 19:9:37
guess where i am?
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i've posted this dunig the watchtower study at the hall using a mobile phone and a pocket pc - only a few strange looks from the people sat near.. i'll be glad when its time to go home - its' as boring as ever !
Simon,
I also couldn't help wondering what you were doing in the KH. But, as long as you are there, why not bring a web cam and do a live broadcast -- then we could all watch and shout out all the things we've been wanting to say at a meeting! Could you patch us (and our comments) into the PA system there? It might not be too hard if they use wireless mikes!
hey y'all,.
hope this works.
if not, see scanned article under the thread about donating books to the local libraries..
Waiting,
Just type the letters 'url' in front of any link you paste in. Then the link is 'hot' (may be clicked on).
Thanks for the links!
I have been wondering for a long time whether or not Ray Franz posts on any site or responds to email. I don't even know if he has a computer. Has anyone here ever tried to correspond with Ray Franz? If nothing else, I would like to express my genuine thanks and my indebtedness.
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I just noticed after I posted this that my profile level is now 'Master Member'! Do I get a prize or something?? I only started posting on Sept. 8th! Does anyone here think that I'll ever catch up to Waiting? Will ANYONE ever catch up to Waiting?
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My wife (puppylove) just told me that it is better to be a Master Member than a Master Debater -- I wonder what she meant by that??
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and the lost books of eden.
books that didn't make the cut into the official 66 we have now.
anyone ever read or research them?
Another link on Prince Michael of Albany. This is wild stuff!
url http://members.tripod.com/~PetraGrail/news.html
PRINCE MICHAEL OF ALBANY CLAIMS SCOTTISH THRONE AS STEWART HEIR
In a bold move, the head of the House of Stewart is claiming to be
the true heir of Scotland's Crown, and the descendent of Jesus & King
David (hence, Messiah?). He says Charles is not entitled to throne
of Britain, but supports William & Harold, Diana's sons. In his book,
THE FORGOTTEN MONARCHY OF SCOTLAND (published near 2000th anniversary
of the birth of Jesus), the 35-yr. old Michael formally claims to be
the rightful King of Scotland. He was chosen head of The European
Council of Princes in 1992. Prince Michael's claims were
detailed in BLOODLINE OF THE HOLY GRAIL by Laurence Gardner in 1996.
Since then the British Coronation Stone has been returned to Scot-
land & it has elected a parliament with Michael's behind-the-scenes
encouragement. He has drawn up a sample consitution and advocates
full Scottish independence, which will allow him to begin ruling as
King, if Scotland approves him. Few realize that Gardner is an
admitted member of "The Court of the Dragon," which claims David &
Jesus are heirs of Cain (and proud of it). They revile "Jehovah" and
defend Sodom & Gommorah as victims of His wrath. They advocate blood-
drinking (fresh menstrual blood) & eating the glandular secretions of
human brains. Their "Dragon" is the enemy of Jehovah, he says.
For more, see Oct/Nov '98 NEXUS magazine, pp. 29-34: "Star Fire:
The Gold of the Gods" by Gardner, Pt. 1 of 3 on these topics. This
spring Vol 2 of BLOODLINE series will appear: GENESIS OF THE GRAIL
KINGS: THE PENDRAGON LEGACY OF ADAM & EVE, which details their
gruesome beliefs.... For more on the true genesis of
such cannibalistic & vampiristic lusts, see the links below to the
LILITH pages in "SCORCHINGLY HOT."
and the lost books of eden.
books that didn't make the cut into the official 66 we have now.
anyone ever read or research them?
I came across this and thought it was pretty funny. This guy claims that Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses are actually the same organization! But you may want to check out the good photographs of Charles Russell's tomb and pyramid monument. He might be right about Russell's association with Freemasons -- does anyone know anything about that?
url http://www.50megs.com/davidicke/icke/magazine/vol9/articles/russell.html
Edited by - AhHah on 28 October 2000 13:44:14
and the lost books of eden.
books that didn't make the cut into the official 66 we have now.
anyone ever read or research them?
Seven,
You asked about info on the Book of Jasher. I found the link below:
and the lost books of eden.
books that didn't make the cut into the official 66 we have now.
anyone ever read or research them?
I have been attempting to find some validation of Laurence Gardner's work and his book "Bloodline of the Holy Grail", referenced on a link that Seven provided on this thread.
I have not found any serious review of his work yet (nothing that is not attempting to sell his books).
Unfortunately, the context of the sites that sell his books make it seem dubious at best. Check out this link:
url http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Congress/2301/starfire.html
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I just found the first link that casts some doubt on the reliability of this book. It contains a foreword by a supposed HRH Prince Michael of Albany, Head of the Royal House of Stewart. This man's claim to royalty is discredited at the link below. The link also mentions Laurence Gardner's book as the source of the fraudulent claim:
This wholly fictional claim may is taken from The Bloodline of the Holy Grail - The Hidden Lineage of Jesus Revealed by Laurence Gardner, The Chevalier Labhran de St Germain, ISBN 1-85230-870-2, and published by Element Books.[1] It is a complete invention, and cannot be supported by any documents or historical sources. The alleged genealogy is filled with falsehoods, the most obvious being that Prince Charles Edward, Charles III, never married "Marguerite O’Dea d’Audibert de Lussan, Comtesse de Massillan" (1749-1820), had he done so he would have been guilty of bigamy since he was already married to Princess Louise of Stolberg, who survived him. Perhaps this name is called into the equation because the Drummond Dukes of Melfort married into this same family and inherited the Lussan title.
url http://www.chivalricorders.org/royalty/fantasy/stuart.htm
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Here is a critical review of the book from this link:
url http://www.tektonics.org/LG.BHG_1852308702.html#Summary
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A review of Laurence Gardner's Bloodline of the Holy Grail--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
byJ. P. Holding
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A correspondent asked me to look into this book, and I have to admit that I didn't have to read very far to get what I needed, for it is obvious what this book is up to on its face. That makes it easier to dismiss, though.
All that Gardner (a professed "internationally known sovereign and chivalric genealogist" and royal historiographer) does, quite simply, is rely on the works of previous writers who are quite nearly as uncritically insane as he is. Ahmed Osman, who asserts that Moses was actually Akhenaten. Baigent and Leigh, the Dead Sea Scroll conspiracy cretins. Barbara Thiering. Lots and lots of Barbara Thiering. Bloodline of the Holy Grail is nothing but conspiracy-theory, second hand, mixed in with an overwhelming host of extremely bad arguments that we've already had our day with on these pages and others.
With this consideration, it is no surprise that this book -- the premise of which is that the "Holy Grail" is actually a royal bloodline, descended from David through Jesus to certain people of the present day -- is endorsed by only one person, a certain "Prince Michael of Albany". I'll give you three guesses as to who the bloodline ends up with in modern times, and you won't need two of them....and you don't need to guess that this Michael guy might be in La La Land himself. Don't let the thick bibliography fool you into thinking that this guy has done any homework: Bloodline of the Holy Grail is sensationalist trash for the National Enquirer crowd. And second-hand trash, at that!
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i noticed these bumperstickers on the cars of some of our posters here:.
it's not just for breakfast anymore!.
2.redhorsewoman-cats-the other white meat.. 3.carmel-constipated people don't give a crap.. 4.waiting-who lit the fuse on your tampon?.
Waiting,
Not even a Jedi poster can remember every single post they ever wrote!
BTW ... which bumper sticker was your fav? (I'm guessing Carmel's!)
