YK,
Are you saying that the information on the Silentlambs web site and others is manipulating, or are you saying that the manipulation is coming form the WTS?
Please help to understand
How is the manipulating designed?
ATC
i have read a great deal from the silentlamb's web site, not to mention other sites that are following this atrocity!
it would seem to me, and you can probibly bet, when something like this comes to the attention of the elders; that all of thier children are warned to stay clear of "publisher alleged child abuser"!
even though they are supposed to be "hush-hush" about it.
YK,
Are you saying that the information on the Silentlambs web site and others is manipulating, or are you saying that the manipulation is coming form the WTS?
Please help to understand
How is the manipulating designed?
ATC
i have read a great deal from the silentlamb's web site, not to mention other sites that are following this atrocity!
it would seem to me, and you can probibly bet, when something like this comes to the attention of the elders; that all of thier children are warned to stay clear of "publisher alleged child abuser"!
even though they are supposed to be "hush-hush" about it.
I have read a great deal from the Silentlamb's web site, not to mention other sites that are following this atrocity!
It would seem to me, and you can probibly bet, when something like this comes to the attention of the Elders; that all of thier children are warned to stay clear of "Publisher Alleged Child Abuser"! Even though they are supposed to be "hush-hush" about it. At least, they have the ability to protect their children. This just burns me up!
ATC
first of all: i am new and have been lurking for about 2 weeks.
whoow!
glad i got that out of the way.. something that really bothers me is: when they say that the gb all the way down, elders, and ministerial servents are "appointed" by jehovah, and are deserving of "double honor".
You Know,
HI,
Thank you for your post.
You stated in part: "I would refer you to what the apostle Paul counseled elders when considering recommendations of other men. He wrote: "Never lay your hands hastily upon any man; neither be a sharer in the sins of others..." Because Paul specifically cited the dangers of hastily recommending a man who might not be qualified, it shows that the process is not automatic."
This is very true, but wasn't Paul's counsel relevent to "Newbies"? You know, ones who havn't proved themselves. This guy had been associated with JW for close to 20 years. And he was well known in the Circuit.
Let me just say that this is not about him as an individual, but about the circumstances.
I don't know. What do you think?
ATC
first of all: i am new and have been lurking for about 2 weeks.
whoow!
glad i got that out of the way.. something that really bothers me is: when they say that the gb all the way down, elders, and ministerial servents are "appointed" by jehovah, and are deserving of "double honor".
Thirdson,
Thank you for the refrence, and your wording was very delightful.
ATC
first of all: i am new and have been lurking for about 2 weeks.
whoow!
glad i got that out of the way.. something that really bothers me is: when they say that the gb all the way down, elders, and ministerial servents are "appointed" by jehovah, and are deserving of "double honor".
Thanks MR MOE 2,
I've bookmarked it.
ATC
i have read a great deal from the silentlamb's web site, not to mention other sites that are following this atrocity!
it would seem to me, and you can probibly bet, when something like this comes to the attention of the elders; that all of thier children are warned to stay clear of "publisher alleged child abuser"!
even though they are supposed to be "hush-hush" about it.
I have read a great deal from the Silentlamb's web site, not to mention other sites that are following this atrocity!
It would seem to me, and you can probibly bet, when something like this comes to the attention of the Elders; that all of thier children are warned to stay clear of "Publisher Alleged Child Abuser"! Even though they are supposed to be "hush-hush" about it. At least, they have the ability to protect their children. This just burns me up!
ATC
after reviewing the society's vapid interest in helping battered women and seeing the many sad stories posted as a result of the article, i have a new addition to the silentlambs website.. a new webpage for battered lambs.. this will be accessed off the victims page with a clickable link.
there you will be able to read the stories of those who have suffered physical abuse at the hands of wt policy.
all stories will be posted anonymously of course and there will also be a second poems and thoughts page dedicated to victims of physical abuse.
That is a great idea Bill
ATC
first of all: i am new and have been lurking for about 2 weeks.
whoow!
glad i got that out of the way.. something that really bothers me is: when they say that the gb all the way down, elders, and ministerial servents are "appointed" by jehovah, and are deserving of "double honor".
Thanks Esmeralda
first of all: i am new and have been lurking for about 2 weeks.
whoow!
glad i got that out of the way.. something that really bothers me is: when they say that the gb all the way down, elders, and ministerial servents are "appointed" by jehovah, and are deserving of "double honor".
You Know,
Hi, and thanks for your post,
You stated in part:
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Honoring men who serve in a position originally arranged by Jehovah is actually honoring God. It doesn't mean that some individualswho might occupy that position are necessarily worthy of honor. Look at the case of King Saul. He was hand-picked for the kingship by Jehovah's prophet Samuel, and yet Saul became a petty tyrant. David, who became a national hero and was picked to replace Saul as king, nonetheless, showed respect for the positon of one anointed by Jehovah. So, he didn't take matters into his own hands but waited on God to handle the matter, which of course he did.
You Know
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Q: How do I honor the "individuals who might occupy that position" and "are necessarily worthy of honor." and still "actually honoring God."? If I look at Saul's case: "He was hand-picked for the kingship by Jehovah's prophet Samuel" Was he hiding any defilements (gross sins, as defined by the WBTS) or was he truely a good canidate before he was "hand-picked"? I think this is similar to the experience I told.
Now, if I use David, "who became a national hero and was picked to replace Saul as king, nonetheless, showed respect for the positon of one anointed by Jehovah." And , "didn't take matters into his own hands but waited on God to handle the matter, which of course he did. " Then, it seems to me that you are telling me to flee (because that is what David did, right?) from the Sauls and their government, and "waited on God to handle the matter..."? Or, did David take matters into his own hands when he fled?
I just don't seem to undrstand.
ATC
first of all: i am new and have been lurking for about 2 weeks.
whoow!
glad i got that out of the way.. something that really bothers me is: when they say that the gb all the way down, elders, and ministerial servents are "appointed" by jehovah, and are deserving of "double honor".
GOZZ,
Hi,
Why don't the elders have to pray? I thought all who were appointed were prayed over by the elders?
ATC