Kent,
Would you be willing to mail me a copy of these forms?
Thank you,
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Aintthatcute
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Blanc UN Application Forms (as signed by wts)
by Kent inhere are copies of the blanc forms the watchtower bible and tract society has signed with the un!.
required application materials" document and more importantly the "criteria for association".. .
thanks a lot to hawkaw.
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Let's talk about SOUL
by Aintthatcute insomething that i am having trouble grasping is my soul.
ok, soul as it is defined by the wbts.. in the reasoning from the scriptures, pg 375, this is what is stated:.
[soul.
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Something that I am having trouble grasping is my soul. OK, soul as it is defined by the WBTS.
In the Reasoning from the Scriptures, pg 375, this is what is stated:
[SOUL
Definition: In the Bible, "soul" is translated from the Hebrew ne'phesh and the Greek psy-khe'. Bible usage shows the soul to be a person or an animal or the life that a person or an animal enjoys. To many persons, however, "soul" means the immaterial or spirit part of a human being that survives the death of the physical body. Others understand it to be the principle of life. But these latter views are not Bible teachings.]I'll keep this short. AT Genesis 2:7 it reads, "And Jehovah God proceeded to form the man out of dust form the ground and to blow into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man CAME TO BE A LIVING SOUL."
Then, at Matthew 10:28 we read, "And do not become fearful of those who kill the BODY BUT CANNOT KILL THE SOUL; but rather be in fear of him that can destroy BOTH SOUL AND BODY in Ge-hen'na.
According to the Reasnoning book, the body and soul are the same thing. However; the two scriptures taken from the New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures tell me that the soul and body are seperate. Which is it?
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This Just Burns Me UP! [:(!]
by Aintthatcute ini have read a great deal from the silentlamb's web site, not to mention other sites that are following this atrocity!
it would seem to me, and you can probibly bet, when something like this comes to the attention of the elders; that all of thier children are warned to stay clear of "publisher alleged child abuser"!
even though they are supposed to be "hush-hush" about it.
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OOPS! I put up the wrong emotion in my last post to Had Enough. It should be
Guess you can tell this really bothers me! [>:(]
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This Just Burns Me UP! [:(!]
by Aintthatcute ini have read a great deal from the silentlamb's web site, not to mention other sites that are following this atrocity!
it would seem to me, and you can probibly bet, when something like this comes to the attention of the elders; that all of thier children are warned to stay clear of "publisher alleged child abuser"!
even though they are supposed to be "hush-hush" about it.
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Had Enough,
Hi,
Thank you for the warm welcome. I enjoyed your comments. It's a shame, that the only way we (R&F) can protect our children from alleged child-molesters, that only The GB, Elders and those directly involved have knowledge of, We have to be on The GB or an Elder.
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This Just Burns Me UP! [:(!]
by Aintthatcute ini have read a great deal from the silentlamb's web site, not to mention other sites that are following this atrocity!
it would seem to me, and you can probibly bet, when something like this comes to the attention of the elders; that all of thier children are warned to stay clear of "publisher alleged child abuser"!
even though they are supposed to be "hush-hush" about it.
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I just want ot reiterate what I said earlier:
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Can you just imagine how the WTBTS would handle this if: Elders were told that if a chid abuse occured (Sexual, or otherwise), and it was brought to the Elders attention, they were not to tell anyone, not even members of their own families. (Their Children, their Fleshly brothers/sisters - so these could protect their children.) Or they would be Dissfellowshiped. I think there would me mass mutiny. OH! Wait! Elders aren't supposet to talk to anyone not involved directly.So, do you think that Elders don't tell their (immediate family members) kids: to avoid, stay clear of, don't be alone with so and so?
That way everyone may be at equal risk of the alleged perpetrator?ATC
Thanks to all for their post.
YK, what scripture in Psalms were you refering too was it Psalms 119:165 regarding "stumling block"?
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This Just Burns Me UP! [:(!]
by Aintthatcute ini have read a great deal from the silentlamb's web site, not to mention other sites that are following this atrocity!
it would seem to me, and you can probibly bet, when something like this comes to the attention of the elders; that all of thier children are warned to stay clear of "publisher alleged child abuser"!
even though they are supposed to be "hush-hush" about it.
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I think since You Know, a.k.a YK, posted, we have drifted off course of the original message:
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I have read a great deal from the Silentlamb's web site, not to mention other sites that are following this atrocity!
It would seem to me, and you can probibly bet, when something like this comes to the attention of the Elders; that all of thier children are warned to stay clear of "Publisher Alleged Child Abuser"! Even though they are supposed to be "hush-hush" about it. At least, they have the ability to protect their children. This just burns me up!
____________________________________________________________________Can you just imagine how the WTBTS would handle this if: Elders were told that if a chid abuse occured (Sexual, or otherwise), and it was brought to the Elders attention, they were not to tell anyone, not even members of their own families. (Their Children, their Fleshly brothers/sisters - so these could protect their children.) Or they would be Dissfellowshiped. I think there would me mass mutiny. OH! Wait! Elders aren't supposet to talk to anyone not involved directly.
So, do you think that Elders don't tell their (immediate family members) kids: to avoid, stay clear of, don't be alone with so and so?
That way everyone may be at equal risk of the alleged perpetrator?ATC
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This Just Burns Me UP! [:(!]
by Aintthatcute ini have read a great deal from the silentlamb's web site, not to mention other sites that are following this atrocity!
it would seem to me, and you can probibly bet, when something like this comes to the attention of the elders; that all of thier children are warned to stay clear of "publisher alleged child abuser"!
even though they are supposed to be "hush-hush" about it.
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YK,
Are you saying that the information on the Silentlambs web site and others is manipulating, or are you saying that the manipulation is coming form the WTS?
Please help to understand
How is the manipulating designed?
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This Just Burns Me UP! [:(!]
by Aintthatcute ini have read a great deal from the silentlamb's web site, not to mention other sites that are following this atrocity!
it would seem to me, and you can probibly bet, when something like this comes to the attention of the elders; that all of thier children are warned to stay clear of "publisher alleged child abuser"!
even though they are supposed to be "hush-hush" about it.
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I have read a great deal from the Silentlamb's web site, not to mention other sites that are following this atrocity!
It would seem to me, and you can probibly bet, when something like this comes to the attention of the Elders; that all of thier children are warned to stay clear of "Publisher Alleged Child Abuser"! Even though they are supposed to be "hush-hush" about it. At least, they have the ability to protect their children. This just burns me up!ATC
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What is going ON?
by Aintthatcute infirst of all: i am new and have been lurking for about 2 weeks.
whoow!
glad i got that out of the way.. something that really bothers me is: when they say that the gb all the way down, elders, and ministerial servents are "appointed" by jehovah, and are deserving of "double honor".
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You Know,
HI,
Thank you for your post.
You stated in part: "I would refer you to what the apostle Paul counseled elders when considering recommendations of other men. He wrote: "Never lay your hands hastily upon any man; neither be a sharer in the sins of others..." Because Paul specifically cited the dangers of hastily recommending a man who might not be qualified, it shows that the process is not automatic."
This is very true, but wasn't Paul's counsel relevent to "Newbies"? You know, ones who havn't proved themselves. This guy had been associated with JW for close to 20 years. And he was well known in the Circuit.
Let me just say that this is not about him as an individual, but about the circumstances.
I don't know. What do you think?
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What is going ON?
by Aintthatcute infirst of all: i am new and have been lurking for about 2 weeks.
whoow!
glad i got that out of the way.. something that really bothers me is: when they say that the gb all the way down, elders, and ministerial servents are "appointed" by jehovah, and are deserving of "double honor".
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Thirdson,
Thank you for the refrence, and your wording was very delightful.
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