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Need list of notable bible people who Jah let slide
by RedPillPopper in
1. watchtower
2. bible
need a list of people like cain, lot, david, etc who did things they should have been put to death for but jah forgave, excused or turned a blind eye to.

thanks for any info.. .
RedPillPopper

The reason for my OP is that I'm writing a letter to my adult son who on our last visit told me he will now be "limiting" his association with me. He was recently appointed MS (something I should be proud of except now I fully know TTATT) so he is feeling pressure to tow the Party Line.
I went thru an abrupt fade in mid 2013 with a marriage situation of being 10yr separated (her doing, mental illness) and fully divorced Feb 2014 (my doing, had enough of Org BS).
I'm trying to make him understand how utterly insane my situation was in that no matter what I did I would never be an "Acceptable Person" within the Org. More on that in another post...............
Here is my analogy list that will be included in the letter. Let me know what you think.

·         Cain - Jehovah sits back and does nothing while Cain plots and carries out the murder of his brother. Then after the deed is done Jah makes an escape plan for Cain.

                But I can NEVER be an Acceptable Person in the Organization.

·         Lot - Jehovah, just having destroyed two cities for homosexuality lets Lot have incestuous sex with his two daughters and that's OK.

                But I can NEVER be an Acceptable Person in the Organization.

·         Aaron - Makes golden calf, bows to it. Nothing happens to him. In fact he is put in charge of the priesthood.

                But I can NEVER be an Acceptable Person in the Organization.

·         David - An adulterer and murderer among other things. Other people punished for it and he gets to keep his kingship. Is considered "Jehovah's Friend".

                But I can NEVER be an Acceptable Person in the Organization.

·         Bathsheba - Adulteress. Other people punished and the Messiah gets to come through her instead of David's other faithful wives.

                But I can NEVER be an Acceptable Person in the Organization.

·         Solomon - Directly disobeys Jah with marriage to foreign wives. Worships false gods, dies an "apostate" but kept his kingship throughout and is said will get a resurrection.

                But I can NEVER be an Acceptable Person in the Organization.

·         Manasseh - sacrificed his children to false gods. practiced spiritism. Jehovah punished him, he felt bad, ask for forgiveness. Jah forgives him completely and restores his kingship.

                But I can NEVER be an Acceptable Person in the Organization.

·         Jacob - Stole the birthright by lying.

                But I can NEVER be an Acceptable Person in the Organization.

·         Daniel - Dan 4:9 “‘O Bel·te·shaz′zar the chief of the magic-practicing priests". He would have had to practice and encourage spiritism to have this position yet Jehovah used him as a prophet.

                But I can NEVER be an Acceptable Person in the Organization.

·         Woman with flow of blood - She broke the Law concerning uncleaness and involved the Messiah in it no less. She was cured and commended for her faith.

                But I can NEVER be an Acceptable Person in the Organization.

·         Peter - Denied Jesus 3 times (same as renouncing one's faith in Hitler concentration camps) yet Jesus forgives him completely with no restrictions and he keeps his Apostleship and is given Keys to the Kingdom.

                But I can NEVER be an Acceptable Person in the Organization.

·         Paul - Persecutes the Christians in the extreme. Jesus uses him as a foremost Apostle.

                But I can NEVER be an Acceptable Person in the Organization.
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Need list of notable bible people who Jah let slide
by RedPillPopper in
1. watchtower
2. bible
need a list of people like cain, lot, david, etc who did things they should have been put to death for but jah forgave, excused or turned a blind eye to.

thanks for any info.. .
RedPillPopper

Thought of another one, Daniel
Dan 4:9 “‘O Bel·te·shaz′zar the chief of the magic-practicing priests"
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Need list of notable bible people who Jah let slide
by RedPillPopper in
1. watchtower
2. bible
need a list of people like cain, lot, david, etc who did things they should have been put to death for but jah forgave, excused or turned a blind eye to.

thanks for any info.. .
RedPillPopper
Thanks, my first take by memory was:
- Cain
- Lot
- Aaron
- David
- Bathsheba
- Solomon
- Manasseh
- Peter
- Woman with flow of blood
- Paul
- I know there are more................
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Need list of notable bible people who Jah let slide
by RedPillPopper in
1. watchtower
2. bible
need a list of people like cain, lot, david, etc who did things they should have been put to death for but jah forgave, excused or turned a blind eye to.

thanks for any info.. .
RedPillPopper

Need a list of people like Cain, Lot, David, etc who did things they should have been put to death for but Jah forgave, excused or turned a blind eye to. Thanks for any info.
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When elders approach you.....how do you/did you respond?
by Blackfalcon98 in
1. jw
2. friends
so, back when you were still in, or even now (for those still in), how do you respond when the elders ask to speak with you in the back room?
RedPillPopper

I have not been to KH since April of '13 and the last time I was asked to go into the "back room" I said very boldly to the COBE "no I won't go in that room anymore, I will speak to you in the parking lot". He looked surprised and said "well that's very interesting".
So as we were walking out the KH for the parking lot, the 2nd elder was a little late and had to actually run up beside us so he could be there as the "2nd Witness" to anything they might catch me at. I was about 75% over my fear of them and knowing TTATT. If I was 100% I would have told the 2nd elder to excuse himself as I would only talk to one person.
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Jehovah's Happy People!
by minimus in
1. jw
2. friends
were you one of those happy people?

i think most jws realize that they shouldn't feel so depressed and tired.

they know something ain't right..
RedPillPopper

I would be happy if Satan, demons and his wicked system would stop beating me up !!!!!

I remember seeing people just dragging themselves into the KH at meetings and state the above line. Sad thing is that they were really getting beat up by the "Loving Council" from everything bOrg that saturated their lives.

So happy I can see that now and refuse to be fooled anymore.
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Q-tips and Coffee Filters helped me learn TTATT
by RedPillPopper in
1. jw
2. friends
well they didn't fully teach me ttatt but helped me on the way.............. first thing i do in the morning after waking up is grinding some nice coffee beans and getting the brew started while i take a hot shower.

after the shower i like to clean out all the nasty wax out of my ears with a q-tip (or cotton swab for those not familiar with that term).. while cleaning out my ears i would think about how nice it is we have things like q-tips and coffee filters that make life more enjoyable but at the same time realize that somebody somewhere is in a factory making these.. i can't imagine a child saying "when i grow up i want to work in a factory making coffee filters".

the people who end up really doing that as adults did not set that to be a life goal.
RedPillPopper

Well they didn't fully teach me TTATT but helped me on the way.............

First thing I do in the morning after waking up is grinding some nice coffee beans and getting the brew started while I take a hot shower. After the shower I like to clean out all the nasty wax out of my ears with a Q-tip (or cotton swab for those not familiar with that term).

While cleaning out my ears I would think about how nice it is we have things like Q-tips and coffee filters that make life more enjoyable but at the same time realize that somebody somewhere is in a factory making these.

I can't imagine a child saying "when I grow up I want to work in a factory making coffee filters". The people who end up really doing that as adults did not set that to be a life goal. They are there out of necessity. That is the best job they have at the moment and would drop that like a hot potato if something better came along.

If in the New System we are all going to be petting tigers, eating oversized fruit, hiking to majestic waterfalls and pursuing everything this wicked old system would not allow, I am sure not going to readily volunteer to work in a factory (they would still be needed) making Q-tips in some barter system so I could trade them for another product I needed or wanted, like my coffee filter. I want to be in that hike to the majestic waterfall with the Tiger at my side.

Thinking on this made the working details of "Life in the New System" a little absurd.
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Psychological Effects of Color
by RedPillPopper in
1. jw
2. friends
for item #1 check out the color for trust.

totally ironic and you know the borg chose this on purpose.. .

http://goweloveit.info/entertainment/these-8-psychological-facts-will-help-you-understand-a-lot-more-about-life-5-is-a-game-changer/?utm_source=taboola&utm_medium=referral.
RedPillPopper

The article is not that great and I'm not sure if I react to the colors the way the chart says I should but the irony was over the top for me.
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Psychological Effects of Color
by RedPillPopper in
1. jw
2. friends
for item #1 check out the color for trust.

totally ironic and you know the borg chose this on purpose.. .

http://goweloveit.info/entertainment/these-8-psychological-facts-will-help-you-understand-a-lot-more-about-life-5-is-a-game-changer/?utm_source=taboola&utm_medium=referral.
RedPillPopper

For item #1 check out the color for Trust. Totally ironic and you know the bOrg chose this on purpose.

http://goweloveit.info/entertainment/these-8-psychological-facts-will-help-you-understand-a-lot-more-about-life-5-is-a-game-changer/?utm_source=taboola&utm_medium=referral
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"Her words suggest................."
by RedPillPopper in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
first time posting.

i've lurked for about 2 years.

30+yr convert.
RedPillPopper

Hello everyone!!!

First time posting. I've lurked for about 2 years. 30+yr convert. 100% mentally out, 98% physically out. I'll explain that when I tell my story which will be for another post. I hope I can post from time to time but with a full time job sitting in front of a computer and then 3hr round-trip commute I don't feel like much in the evening even though I lurk almost every night. At that time I'm usually on my tablet which is laborious for any serious typing.

Anyway, about the title of my post. We know the bOrg likes to use home grown phrases and weasel words like "Evidently". I like to call it "Sleight-of-Mind" in which they redirect our thinking the way an illusionist redirects our eyes with sleight-of-hand.

I was about 50% aware of TTATT when the January 2013 WT came out with the article "He, Although He Died, Yet Speaks" concerning the faith of Abel. This article also became the first chapter in the Imitate Their Faith book.

The third paragraph in the first subheading says:

"Exiled to life outside the garden, Adam and Eve found their existence hard. Yet, when their first child was born, they named him Cain, or “Something Produced,” and Eve proclaimed: “I have produced a man with the aid of Jehovah.” Her words suggest that she may have had in mind the promise Jehovah made in the garden, foretelling that a certain woman would produce a “seed” that would one day destroy the wicked one who had led Adam and Eve astray. (Genesis 3:15; 4:1) Did Eve imagine that she was the woman in the prophecy and that Cain was the promised “seed”?"

It is amazing how the bOrg can focus on one scripture, sentence or phrase and spin it with their weasel words and go in an entirely different direction than the context suggests (oops, I used that word). This is what they did here with "Her words suggest......." and then they write an entire article with a completely fabricated subject matter. When I first read this article, my thoughts were: "NO!!! No, No, No. This does not suggest ANYTHING of the sort!!" According to the scriptures (for the sake of argument) Eve was the first female human EVER. And now here she did something that has NEVER happened before, the birth of human offspring. She is amazed and rightfully gives credit to Jehovah. Again, according to the scriptures, Jah gave her that ability. That's it!! There is no more to her statement than simply what she said. Ironically the article continues and blames her saying if she really meant what they "suggested", she was "sadly mistaken".

With the skill of an illusionist the bOrg then writes an entire article doing exactly what they accused Eve of doing. They go on to say "if she and Adam fed Cain such ideas as he grew up,.............".

Well, I say "No. You, the WTBT$, you are the one feeding us "such ideas" and I among many see that it is an illusion, and a despicable one at that.

RedPillPopper