@ Flipper I agree about the molestation and child abuse problems within the organization. It is definitely encouraged by the overall structure of the organization which is why I made such a broad statement regarding their issues in leadership and structure. The child abuse and pedophilia problems are certainly a cause for great concern.
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Why are we so hard on JW's??
by James Mixon ini was thinking about this last night.
what would happen if.
someone new check out this site, what would they think?.
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Why are we so hard on JW's??
by James Mixon ini was thinking about this last night.
what would happen if.
someone new check out this site, what would they think?.
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eyefell4it2
@ James Mixon
I completely understand. I have parents in as well as an elderly grandmother who breaks down in tears if I call her saying she is "scared they (the elders) will find out" before hanging up on me. How crazy is that? So I get it completely. I have children who ponder why she acts that way and how do you explain such craziness to children whom we teach from DAY 1 that their family is who they should love unconditionally as a gift from God?
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Why are we so hard on JW's??
by James Mixon ini was thinking about this last night.
what would happen if.
someone new check out this site, what would they think?.
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I think there are definitely some harsh things said by some people but it reflects their experience within the organization. I think you are correct in that many of the members of the JW world are good people or at least try to be and they are simply misguided in following some of their beliefs such as disfellowshipping, etc. But the hurt and trauma and confusion caused by the overall organization under the guidance of imperfect men (ie the GB) who refuse to admit they are imperfect (and that their "prophesies" are just a thinly disguised tactic at fear-mongering) further compounds the situation. You have to realize that just like people who may've been abused or mistreated, trusting anyone is hard and to have a forum where they can safely vent their concerns, experiences and such is exactly what they need to help their healing process. I always say if you don't like it, don't read it. I have been out for over 10 years but just recently got turned on to this site and it has helped me tremendously so while someone who has never had a negative experience with the JWs may be turned off by the site, for those in shoes like mine, it can be extremely helpful and also provide a resource to know what's going on within the organization (due to having family members still in, etc) without having to be a part of it. I hope that sort of explains things a little bit. -
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HOW EXACTLY does god communicate with or direct the GB?
by stuckinarut2 inwe're all familiar with the organisations claims (and have seen the flow diagrams in books and mags) that the gb is "directed by god".
in turn, the local elders are "directed by god".
so, how exactly do they suppose this happens?
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You mean Jehovah doesn't directly talk to them?
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This is the man who made it all happen!
by Terry inwilliam miller.. do you know how important this man has been to your life?
do you know your life would have been entirely different (without a doubt) had he not lived?.
read on!.
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Translating and deciphering witness expressions.
by stuckinarut2 ini wanted to start a thread with correct explanations of what witnesses really mean when they say stuff... please add to it!.
"we missed you at the last meeting" = "where were you?
why did you miss a meeting!?".
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Church of Almighty God in China
by southwest init's interesting to look at the beliefs of this cult in china from a jw perspective:.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/eastern_lightning.
and the response of the chinese government to the recent murder by members of the group:.
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First Time Post - Long time reader
by Samaritan At the Well intoday is my first post on jwd, i was one of jehovahs witness for almost 50 years of my life, i was born into the religion.
i was baptized at a young age and once i got married i was a very spiritual woman as they would call me.
my husband and i served as full time pioneers, we traveled abroad and went to international conventions, did some special pioneer service in other states in the us.
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Congrats and I truly understand your fear and I deeply respect you for taking an open and honest look at the cult/religion. Though I have been out for 10 years, certain fears still resonate with me such as what if I am seen Xmas shopping or taking a toke on a cigarette outside of a restaurant and word gets back to my parents or their associates in the congregation (I was a born in as is my mother, and my father converted when he was in high school). I even delete this website from my history in case my computer messes up (one of my dad's professional skills is fixing computers and he has had to work with my computers to update the anti-virus software and such). I know it was a blow to realize TTATT but you are better for it. I read Crisis myself and it completely opened my eyes. Even though I had been out for YEARS, I was still DEVASTATED to discover that the thoughts that had quietly lurked in my heart and mind all this time had valid roots. But it also freed me from the fear of Armageddon coming in and tearing me from my parents simply because a group of men decided I was not meant to be in their "religion" with no regard to the multiple appeals and letters I wrote (alone, pregnant and scared). Now my life feels better and though I still have fears, no longer am I trapped because I don't buy into that group's thinking and for once I am actually enjoying my life with my husband and our children. It gets easier and you will begin to feel better once you live your life free of their false doctrines. -
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JW making music videos now?
by adjusted knowledge ini'm not sure if this is new since it is hard to keep up with the ever changing jw.
it is morphing so much.
i went to jw.org tv video for november and around 53 or 54 minutes into the broadcast the gb guy introduce a music video called "we won't forget you".
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@pronomono absolutely a classic and quite entertaining too!
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Small (tiny) victories
by disposable hero of hypocrisy ini had a conversation with my wife today about child abuse as it's in the news, and i managed to slip in the fact that wt (not an individual, but the .org itself) has just been ruled against in the states to the tune of 13 million or so.
she knows i'm opposed to the procedures we have in place, and she can definitely see that it makes sense to go straight to the police, and said she would do immediately if it were our children.
we had a fairly local case where the elders positively marched the offender to the station themselves, and good for them for doing so, but she most likely thinks everyone would do that out of common sense.
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Applause to you for having this convo. When I tried to speak with my father subtly about the lawsuit, he stated the same ramble the R&F probably have been indoctrinated to believe "there are bad people in all organizations." He seemed to imply an indifferent attitude to the matter and quickly got off the phone. Hopefully I planted a seed for him to further research the issue so he can understand just how involved in this matter the members of the Borg in NY are. Also sadly interesting to be seeing the worldwide trend of this issue. Hopefully as a father and grandfather of several girls and young women, he will start to recognize this and maybe do his own independent research. Like you said, the TINY victories....