Posts by eyefell4it2

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What's wrong with Christianity?

by eyefell4it2 in

i found this comment on a yahoo article re same sex marriage and i happen to agree with it and thought i would share it.

of course there are others that can be added if you specify what's wrong with jehovah's witnesses but i think this list is a good overview.

would anyone else care to add anything to this list or comment?

eyefell4it2

Thanks everyone, these are all great points. I just realized something about Sodd & Gom (not even going to attempt to spell them right now) is that they were destroyed for such blatant evilness but then what Lot's daughter's did was sick as well so why not destroy them too? So many questions when you base your faith solely on the Bible. It does indeed feel like a jigsaw puzzle with pieces from completely different puzzles added in.

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What's wrong with Christianity?

by eyefell4it2 in

i found this comment on a yahoo article re same sex marriage and i happen to agree with it and thought i would share it.

of course there are others that can be added if you specify what's wrong with jehovah's witnesses but i think this list is a good overview.

would anyone else care to add anything to this list or comment?

eyefell4it2

@ Cofty- Thanks, I can think of a few more but they still fall into subsets of the originals (like inequality for women who are seen as property or lesser than men)

@ Talesin- Yes! I didn't even think of that! The bible sort of presents a "bipolar" God view which seems insane to say the least.

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What's wrong with Christianity?

by eyefell4it2 in

i found this comment on a yahoo article re same sex marriage and i happen to agree with it and thought i would share it.

of course there are others that can be added if you specify what's wrong with jehovah's witnesses but i think this list is a good overview.

would anyone else care to add anything to this list or comment?

eyefell4it2

I found this comment on a Yahoo article re same sex marriage and I happen to agree with it and thought I would share it. Of course there are others that can be added if you specify What's wrong with Jehovah's Witnesses but I think this list is a good overview. Would anyone else care to add anything to this list or comment? I am home sick and dying for intelligent conversation!

Top 10 Problems with Christianity.

1) Relative Time: It makes no sense that the relatively short life we live on this planet, at most 100 years and perhaps as brief as a few minutes, would be used by a God to determine our ultimate destiny, one that will last trillions and trillions of years and beyond.

(2) Lack of Gradation

Christianity proposes that only one of two fates awaits humans after they die — an extremely attractive invitation into Heaven or a miserable, dreadful sentence to Hell. Given the complexities and varieties of human experience, offering only two judgments is absurd.

3) Repentance:

The simple act of repentance will allow someone who to go to Heaven.Ted Bundy, a confirmed murderer of over 30 young women, confessed his sins before his execution and, according to Christian doctrine, was sent directly to Heaven. Bill Gates, an atheist who has lived a virtuous life and has donated more than $27,000,000,000 to global health, development, and education will be sent to Hell.

4) Infant Death

Most Christians believe that people who die at a young age are given a free pass to Heaven. It would seem to suggest that dying at a young age, before encountering the age of accountability, would be the best and safest way to leave Earth. This would guarantee a place in Heaven without having to take a risk of living a potentially failed life in the sight of God.

5) Life

Many Christians believe that life begins at conception and an entire anti-abortion industry has been built around this concept. But it presents a problem. Does a fertilized egg that fails to implant in the uterus go to Heaven? This seems a bit absurd

6) Judas

What he allegedly did actually hastened the salvation of mankind, as defined by Christianity. Without Jesus’ capture and execution, everybody would still be subject to the condemnation of original sin as well as their personal sins, making him a hero.

7) Tiny Drama/Huge Stage

“It doesn’t seem to me that this fantastically marvelous universe, this tremendous range of time and space and different kinds of animals, and all the different planets, and all these atoms with all their motions, and so on, all this complicated thing can merely be a stage so that God can watch human beings struggle for good and evil — which is the view that religion has. The stage is too big for the drama.”

8) Slavery.

The Bible condones Slavery according to Exodus and Leviticus.

9) Christians Ignore Old Testament Laws

Jesus said to follow old testament laws: “Do not think that I came to abolish the Law of the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill."

10) Free Will

We live our lives fully capable of sinning, or dooming ourselves to Hell, because we have Free Will. Yet, we are perfect in Heaven? Do we not have free will in Heaven? If we truly knew that God was real, and if we truly knew the consequences of denying him, how could anyone knowingly reject him? About 30% of the whole world is Christian, so that means 70% are hellbound? Did God give us too little information to make a rational choice, or did he make us too stupid to figure it out? Or is Satan stronger than God? Hell certainly seems to be more populated than Heaven.

BONUS: Splintering

The surest sign of a man-made enterprise is that it splits quickly into many different factions. On the other hand, one initiated by a God would be expected to converge into a tight unity. This is because only those groups that aligned correctly with the divine theological blueprint would receive supernatural support and thereby flourish, attract members, and survive the long term. Any wayward factions would lose favor and couldn't compete for new members.

There are now more than 41,000 Christian denominations, many of which have very disparate beliefs and practices. This is a valid clue that Christianity is a man-made concept.

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What's the mechanism?

by Half banana in

i am perpetually challenged by the fact that most jws are completely duped by the propaganda pumped out relentlessly by the borg.

even intelligent ones; they unwittingly grovel to the gb decisions and follow the party line.

they do this for a number of reasons..

eyefell4it2

The spent cost fallacy also was mentioned in another thread and that has a big pull on people as well. Also the (false) lure of paradise and seemingly happy perfection is also quite hypnotizing, especially when you are really down and out.

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Why are we so hard on JW's??

by James Mixon in

jw
friends

i was thinking about this last night.

what would happen if.

someone new check out this site, what would they think?.

eyefell4it2

@ Flipper I agree about the molestation and child abuse problems within the organization. It is definitely encouraged by the overall structure of the organization which is why I made such a broad statement regarding their issues in leadership and structure. The child abuse and pedophilia problems are certainly a cause for great concern.

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Why are we so hard on JW's??

by James Mixon in

jw
friends

i was thinking about this last night.

what would happen if.

someone new check out this site, what would they think?.

eyefell4it2

@ James Mixon

I completely understand. I have parents in as well as an elderly grandmother who breaks down in tears if I call her saying she is "scared they (the elders) will find out" before hanging up on me. How crazy is that? So I get it completely. I have children who ponder why she acts that way and how do you explain such craziness to children whom we teach from DAY 1 that their family is who they should love unconditionally as a gift from God?

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Why are we so hard on JW's??

by James Mixon in

jw
friends

i was thinking about this last night.

what would happen if.

someone new check out this site, what would they think?.

eyefell4it2

I think there are definitely some harsh things said by some people but it reflects their experience within the organization. I think you are correct in that many of the members of the JW world are good people or at least try to be and they are simply misguided in following some of their beliefs such as disfellowshipping, etc. But the hurt and trauma and confusion caused by the overall organization under the guidance of imperfect men (ie the GB) who refuse to admit they are imperfect (and that their "prophesies" are just a thinly disguised tactic at fear-mongering) further compounds the situation. You have to realize that just like people who may've been abused or mistreated, trusting anyone is hard and to have a forum where they can safely vent their concerns, experiences and such is exactly what they need to help their healing process. I always say if you don't like it, don't read it. I have been out for over 10 years but just recently got turned on to this site and it has helped me tremendously so while someone who has never had a negative experience with the JWs may be turned off by the site, for those in shoes like mine, it can be extremely helpful and also provide a resource to know what's going on within the organization (due to having family members still in, etc) without having to be a part of it. I hope that sort of explains things a little bit.

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