Gayle. Yes I noticed the seats. Those chairs have no arm rests either. They look very narrow too. Sitting for 2 hours in those chairs would be uncomfortable. Maybe this is a new tactic to keep everyone from falling asleep?
Posts by ToesUp
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39Jehovah's Witnesses want to invite you to their newly refurbished hall!
by username ini just seen this on goggle news.
a report into a hall actually being refurbished!.
http://www.thecomet.net/news/stevenage_s_jehovah_s_witnesses_celebrate_worship_hall_s_makeover_and_invite_public_to_come_along_1_4228859.
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For Those of You Who Still Serve... How Do You Do It?
by Kingdom Evader innew here... been lurking for some time now.... i still serve... but with each passing day, it gets harder and harder.
i'm slowly... slowly working on my wife (i call her mrs. hardcore) and even my m-i-l (who taught my wife how to be hardcore).
making some amazing progress... they are still hardcore... but unrecognizable from a couple years ago!.
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ToesUp
Welcome Kingdom Evader!
Never been a servant (thank God).
I don't know how you do it! I couldn't! I have wondered many times, how many Brothers serving are just going through the motions.
We left (as a family) about 3 years ago but had these nagging doubts for soooo long. We are both born ins. It was hard for us to "fake it" but it must be excruciating to those still serving.
Hang in there. Move slow. Keep us posted.
You will find a lot of great kind and loving people here that are or have been through similar situations.
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Are you angry for having been a JW?
by Half banana ini remember seeing the ex-jws parading around outside the assembly like lepers holding placards of hate.
we were the righteous and enlightened ones... and they were lost in outer darkness.
just dont look at them was the standard response to their unwelcome presence..
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Heck yeah...I am angry. Not enough to picket at an assembly. Just angry on how family has been treated over the years. The abuse issue really gets to me. How they have affected so many lives over the years. You want to scream from the highest mountain, "get out of her my people (ironic huh?)."
I am angry on how they treat people (really good people) that don't have "positions" in the congregation. I have met some of the most kind/loving brothers who never reached out and they treat them as is they are not worthy of breathing the same air as them. It is so wrong!
I also have witnessed so many that gave so much to the organization (no education) that are paying dearly for not getting an education. They are struggling financially. They have pioneered, served at Bethel, etc., and they have no nest egg to fall back on. They were told they would not need it. I won't allow my children to follow the same path.
Don't get me started on the shunning. How can that be a loving provision from Jehovah? Really? Turning your back on your family and friends when they need you the most? It should be considered a hate crime!
I wish that I could have lived a normal life. I really felt kinda like a freak all throughout my childhood. I don't want my kids to feel that way.
So much damage has been done by a selfish and greedy cult disguised as a religion.
Rant over.
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Just lost one more friend
by paradisebeauty ini used to talk weekly on skype, with a sister from another country.
i didn't tell her much about my research and change of beliefs, until today ... in the conversations some doctrines came up and i told her i don't believe 1914, first, then i went on to tell her that i also don't believe there are 2 classes of christians, that i did not believe the government of the kingdom will be in heaven while the kingdom en earth, that i believe the whole kingdom will be on earth, and that from what i read, jesus was pretty clear that he will come back to earth, visibly.
the "god always had an organization" dogma was dropped and i told her it is not true, out of 9000 years of human history, it's not sure there were 1000 years when god had a loyal organization ..... i did not plan to tell her all this things, but it just happened, and things came up in the conversation... and once i dropped one bomb i dropped them all .... she said i do not sound like i am one of the jehovah's witnesses any more ... and even though we ended the call with "see ya" i have the feeling i will not hear from her any more ... .
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paradisebeauty
It is sad. Very sad. To loose a friend is painful. Unfortunately, she was not really your friend. Friends give you unconditional love.
I have several "friends" that do not know that I no longer attend or believe in the JW belief system. I have tried to prepare myself for the day when they are aware of this. I am sure that I will cry a few tears and I will feel awful that I lost them but I will realize that they really were not my friends if they no longer want me around. I was fully aware of this fact before I made me exit. My spouse and I went through the "what if's" before we left.
Hang in there. Hugs to you!
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The Heartless JW
by babygirl30 insoooo...i have recently been diagnosed with an autoimmune disease, and am scared out of my mind.
in a weak moment, i called my parents and my mom answered.
i start crying as i tell her about my disease, and this woman says to me:.
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babygirl
Sometimes love and support can come from the people we least expect. Embrace the ones who show you love and allow you to express your love back to them. Pardon the bluntness but...screw the ones who can't show or give you the love.
So glad to hear you are doing better. Like someone said take it day by day and remove the poisonous/toxic people from your life. They don't deserve you!!!
More hugs your way!!!
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The Heartless JW
by babygirl30 insoooo...i have recently been diagnosed with an autoimmune disease, and am scared out of my mind.
in a weak moment, i called my parents and my mom answered.
i start crying as i tell her about my disease, and this woman says to me:.
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babygirl30
This is NOT your fault. Don't blame yourself. Your mother doesn't deserve you. Everyone needs and deserves love, especially from our parents. Hang in there!
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The Heartless JW
by babygirl30 insoooo...i have recently been diagnosed with an autoimmune disease, and am scared out of my mind.
in a weak moment, i called my parents and my mom answered.
i start crying as i tell her about my disease, and this woman says to me:.
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babygirl30
I am so sorry you have been ill. It saddens my heart to know your own Mom treats you that way. This is so unnatural. I can't imagine ever turning my back on my kids.
Take good care of yourself, you deserve it. Like LisaRose said, take it one day at a time. Come on here anytime to talk to ones who understand how cold and insensitive this cult is. There are a lot of good people on here.
Hugs to you!
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Suicide Prevention Counseling
by MrCellophane inin the 1980's when i was an elder, i don't remember the society providing any guidance to elders on suicide prevention counseling.
i realize much has changed since then.
can any current/recent elders update me on what the current position of the local elders would be if approached by someone in the congregation contemplating suicide and seeking help?.
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ToesUp
I love how they end all their videos
....and they lived happily ever after.
Except for all the "weak ones." They will be miserable until they return to Jehovah.
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Uber Bethelites in Brazil
by Lynnie inso i see my uber cousins from bethel are flying around the world again, this time in brazil to instruct the brothers on construction purchases in central and south america!
lots of pics with them partying with locals and being wined and dined, something the rank and file will never know!
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ToesUp
Tons of uber dubs surviving off the backs of the clueless rank and file. The only thing that makes us smile is, they will NEVER get another cent of our money!
VOTE WITH YOUR WALLETS!!!
