Part 2 was very interesting. It was really worth listening to. Especially the part on how brothers went to jail unnecessarily for not going into the military. He really explained it well, how the WT changed their stance (more new light) on doing a civil service job versus going to jail. Then the WT blames it on the brothers strong conscience for making that decision. Really? The long term damage the WT has done to so many families is just incredible.
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8JT blog radio: Jehovah's Witnesses - The Only True Religion?
by darth frosty inthis is the title of tomorrows show.
it starts at 10 am but can be listened to any time after that.. .
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/nofog/2010/09/11/jehovahs-witnesses--the-only-true-religion.
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....2016....
by zeb inwith this year all about done i wish you all a healthy and safe 2016.. live long and prosper.
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Cheers!
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The story of my exit
by mrsObfuscate ini have been lurking here for about 6 months, and being the last day of the year, and ready to start the new one afresh, i want to share the story of our exit from the org.
i have found the personal experiences of others of immeasurable value, (and its been a while since a good exit story has been posted) that i hope this can be of benefit to at least someone.. .
my mother became a jehovahs witness when i was about 9 or 10. i remember initially hating all of the new sanctions put on our lives (no birthdays and christmas anymore) but for some reason i soon after joined her in attending the meetings and eventually got baptized at the age of 14. my staunch catholic father converted a couple of years later.
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Welcome!
"Rather than rally around me to help me to continue, I was avoided, even by friends I’d had for 20 odd years. "
This is the saddest reality of it all. You have this false perception that your Brothers and sisters will be there for you. It is amazing how quickly they can erase you from their lives. It's disturbing.
We are so glad you escaped with your family. We feel the same way you mentioned....never happier! Keep up the good work and enjoy your new freedom. Life if good!
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"Mary was somewhat apprehensive about the legal aspects but felt that in this situation Bible principles should carry more weight than the requirement that she protect the privacy of the medical records. Surely the sister would not want to become resentful and try to retaliate by making trouble for her, she reasoned. So when Mary analyzed all the facts available to her, she decided conscientiously that this was a time to "speak," not to "keep quiet."
Has Mary or the organization ever heard of HIPPA? Who cares if Mary looses her job or gets sued...not our (WT) problem! Be warm and well fed Mary! We got our info, now we are going after Sister Abortion.
It's also interesting that the switch that scripture around when it comes to calling the police on a Pedo. There is a time to keep quiet when it comes to that. So interesting how the manipulate the scriptures to suit them.
HYPOCRITES!
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Writing my Disassociation letter
by Bebopin intoday i am working on writing my disassociation letter.
i successfully faded a year ago.
but i feel like i can't keep looking over my shoulder anymore i just need to be completely rid of this cult.. any suggestions on letter and it's content?.
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Governing Body Letter details things that "have never been done before." - Really?
by cappytan in[note: copy/pasted this with permission from reddit.].
once each year, the governing body writes a direct letter to the congregation members included in the yearbook.
in his annual message to the catholic faithful (urbi et orbi) delivered on christmas day, the pope spoke about world peace, terrorism, and the refugee crisis.
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Great post Cappy. They are legends in their own minds. It's similar to their videos they produce. EVERYTHING has a happy ending. Sunshine and roses! -
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People who are happy in the org
by jhine ini don't know if i can put my musings clearly into words , but i' ll try to be coherant !
on a couple of other threads lately folk have said that they have no wish to disenchant jws who are happy in the org .
those who have no personal problems and are content to stay in , thinking that it is good way to live and the nearest thing to the truth .
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tor1500 -Yes, it is different when you are the one in the hot seat. I have seen that before,many times.
My spouse and I were born in. We come from 2 very loving families (parents were very normal witnesses). We always thought that once we left the organization, we would be miserable. Not so. Just the opposite. Once we were away from all the critical people and all the judgement, we began to feel MUCH better.
We are watching the majority of our family (still ins) taking anti depressants and washing them down with booze. . But wait...they are part of the happiest people on earth. How come my spouse and I seem to be the only ones in the family with there sh** together? We should be miserable. Things that make you go....hmmm!
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People who are happy in the org
by jhine ini don't know if i can put my musings clearly into words , but i' ll try to be coherant !
on a couple of other threads lately folk have said that they have no wish to disenchant jws who are happy in the org .
those who have no personal problems and are content to stay in , thinking that it is good way to live and the nearest thing to the truth .
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"The halls are just a smaller taste of what the world is really like. Backbiting, lying, adultery, you name it...it's in the org. "
You are correct with this statement BUT, when the men in the organization (Elders, MS's, CO's, even the Governing Body). These are the ones chosen by Jehovahs Holy spirit, correct? Jehovah chooses these ones to direct the sheep but some are living a double life. Would you hire any accountant that was well know to have major financial problems or fly on a airplane with a pilot who is known to have a major drinking problem? This is where the hypocrisy comes in. We are tired of hearing, "it's an imperfect organization, made up of imperfect men." I don't buy it anymore and never did. If these imperfect men are chosen by Jehovahs holy spirit, why are these ones cheating on their wives, cheating on their taxes, sending their children to college (a WT article once said that those ones sending their children to college lack faith). How can a man direct the congregation when he lacks faith? The hypocrisy is so blatant! You do get a cross section of people anywhere you go but these men are chosen by Jehovahs holy spirit. No Excuses for some of their actions!
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The really cool feeling of community within JWs
by Phaedra ini remember going out with other jws after the memorial.. small gatherings.. picnics at some local landmark.. the feeling of closeness, camaraderie, friendship with like minded people you could trust.. haven't experienced it since i left.. really miss that..
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Lovesjah
If you love Jah so much why are you on an evil website. Go to the Kingdom Hall and tell the Elders what site you are on. Maybe then you will feel the "real love" of your organization. This is why most of us left, the hypocrisy is unbelievable!