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  Lawrence Onoda, Ph.D., Jehovah's Witness Psychologist

  by Maryo in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  in about 1980 i came to know of and meet one time with lawrence onoda, ph.d., a jehovah's witness psychologist [also i think elder] in southern california.

  i was shocked to know there was such a thing in view of the wts traditional stance against jws consulting such a person!

  he had been one of jws for six years at that time, i recall.

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  'They were basically finished, and stood up to go to the door. I said something like, “Don’t you want to know my reasons for this?” It was obvious they really were not interested in the reason. [I was stunned and felt ill inwardly as I realized this was the case."

  They didn't want to know the reason why. They just wanted the simple answer, Yes or No, so they could run back to the BOE and prepare the noose to hang you. That's what it is all about. That is why we will NEVER meet with these heartless henchmen. We owe them NOTHING, just what they gave us, NOTHING!
  
  
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  Watchtower does not follow through with there promise to the city.

  by greenhornet in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/01/nyregion/stalled-brooklyn-park-exposes-rift-with-religious-group.html

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  Great publicity for the WT!!!
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  Bethel layoffs of oldies

  by I am a Bible Student in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  is this true?

  has anyone heard of it?

  saw it on my facebook.. "jan. 6 bethel update 108 elderly bethelites getting the boot.. brooklyn, ny.

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  We have some close friends who are considered remote Bethelites. Guess what? They had to BUY THEIR OWN COMPUTERS!

  My company provides me with a paycheck, benefits, a cell phone and guess what...a computer. Any they pay me!

  How crazy is that? These people not only volunteer their time, give up their life and give donations, they have to pay for it themselves.

  I guess the saying is true..."there is a sucker born every minute."
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  Bethel layoffs of oldies

  by I am a Bible Student in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  is this true?

  has anyone heard of it?

  saw it on my facebook.. "jan. 6 bethel update 108 elderly bethelites getting the boot.. brooklyn, ny.

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  "men with criminal minds who don't give a flying fuck what happens to anybody but themselves"

  Flipper, it is funny you mention this. We have 2 uber Elders in our family (very close relatives) that could care less what happens to their family. It's ALL about them!

  You are correct, the apple does not fall far from the tree. Or as we say, the NUT doen't fall far from the tree.
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  Bethel layoffs of oldies

  by I am a Bible Student in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  is this true?

  has anyone heard of it?

  saw it on my facebook.. "jan. 6 bethel update 108 elderly bethelites getting the boot.. brooklyn, ny.

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  Here is a photo from the 2015 yearbook. The photo was the audience attending the annual meeting. I would assume many of the older ones are from bethel. Maybe someone on here knows who gets these front row tickets. Rank and file or Bethelites?

  
  
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  What is your relationship with ALCOHOL?

  by nicolaou in

  1. social
  2. physical

  here in the uk new drinking guidelines have been issued which suggest "no more than 14 units a week - equivalent to six pints of beer or seven glasses of wine.".

  another piece of the advice which is getting a lot of attention is that "if people drink, it should be moderately over three or more days and that some days should be alcohol-free.".

  already people are making cries of "nanny state!

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  It's 5pm on Friday. Having a glass of wine. Praise Jah for alcohol!
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  General health after learning TTATT

  by Darkknight757 in

  1. social
  2. physical

  4 months ago i was conducting the watchtower study along with a long list of responsibilities that come with being an elder in a very goofy congregation.

  during this time my health was going down hill.

  i've always had a low blood pressure,(102/65 or abouts) but for the past year it had creeped up to 135/90 range.. so 2 months ago after learning ttatt, i'm still considered an elder because the brothers won't let me step down, but i haven't done anything in that time except comment once at a meeting a few weeks ago.

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  Kudos to you ex Elders that walked away from all the stress. It's just not worth it. Take time to enjoy your life and family without the high blood pressure.

  I am a female so, of course, no experience in the Elder stress department. I watched my Elder Dad stress and sometimes I could see it all over his face. Most of the stress came from what you all mentioned, what goes on behind closed doors at the Elders meetings and JC's.

  Just curious, burnedout, I read your story from 5 years ago. Are you and your family active at all? I hope you escaped, along with your family.
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  Double life

  by Esmeralda001 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  is there a way i can successfully live a double life?

  don't get me wrong, i'm not trying to get engaged in activities that are condemnable according to the *bible* (not the *wt*) standards.

  i figured that the only way i can get the brothers and sisters to leave me along is by pretending that i am an unemployed drop out.

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  Great advice from Rebel8.

  Personally, I could care less what these JW's think. If you don't want to answer their intrusive questions, tell em it's none of their business. They don't have a problem being forward with you, why should you worry about being forward with them.

  If they were truly your friends, you should be able to share your joys, troubles and success with them.
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  Are JW's allowed to have close non JW friends?

  by 007DB1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am a non-participating christian who is fully respectful of but never had anything to do with jw.. i have a jw friend who seems to closely follow his jw belief's.

  i have met most of his family and friends who all are also jw's.

  he says i am his only non-jw good friend.. he is getting married this year to his long time gf and with our recent growing more guarded and distant friendship, i am wondering what is going on?.

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  I 007DB1 that is interesting. Typically JW's avoid non JW's like the plague. Maybe these are the more open minded ones. Uber JW's would mark these ones as "weak."

  Esmarelda. JW's may not know the person is worldly. My sons friends all have beards and tattoos. Dead give away with that one. It depends on how your friends look. The "worldly" friends I had lunch with today look very normal. The less you tell people, the better.
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  Hello, I'm new here too!

  by redpilltwice in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi everybody, 1st post here.

  20 years jw, elder for 6 years, regular pioneer for 3 years, have always been following the 2012 candace conti abuse case with much interest, especially since the case suddenly disappeared from www.watchtower.com's news section (thanks brother j. r. brown, office of public information, because it led me to "worldly" websites for more info), leading to more and more dissatisfaction , leading to jwfacts, jwsurvey, ad1914, wtdocuments etc., leading to my awakening about 4 months ago, now fading faster and faster to zero meetings and zero field service...and you know what?

  it feels good!.

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  ToesUp

  Wow. Lots of new ones. Seems to be a lot of ex Elders! Good news.

  Welcome redpilltwice.