Brock, my spouse and I, really enjoyed reading your book. My hope for 2016. Bethelites
being sent home with no status or money, will write their stories about their life in God's
House.
today marks the 1 year anniversary of the release of my second book, "escape from paradise".
i wanted to take the time to thank everyone here who was supportive of this book and for all the great feedback i received on it.
you guys rock.. of course, not all the feedback was pleasant.
Brock, my spouse and I, really enjoyed reading your book. My hope for 2016. Bethelites
being sent home with no status or money, will write their stories about their life in God's
House.
for a future project i'm searching for remarkable quotes of current and former gb members.. i've two personal, validated quotes:.
"sprechen sie deutsch?
" "ah, ein bisschen!
During a talk I found online. Anthony Morris III was giving a talk regarding higher education. He spoke about a spiritual education because it is "superior" and leads to everlasting life. Well, he goes on with the doom and gloom talk about how the parents put the kid in college and all of a sudden (drum roll) the kid stops attending meetings. The parents come to the Brothers and say, "why didn't you do more for my son/daughter?" He replies in the talk...."who dropped em off there?"
This one really got to me. What a smug, arrogant, self righteous ass!
Whatever happened to seasoning your words with salt Brother Morris? You catch more flies with honey than vinegar.
And they wonder why donations are down and people are flying the coup!
Then he gave a talk this summer about not judging our Brothers. What the hell! You just can't make this stuff up!
in about 1980 i came to know of and meet one time with lawrence onoda, ph.d., a jehovah's witness psychologist [also i think elder] in southern california.
i was shocked to know there was such a thing in view of the wts traditional stance against jws consulting such a person!
he had been one of jws for six years at that time, i recall.
'They were basically finished, and stood up to go to the door. I said something like, “Don’t you want to know my reasons for this?” It was obvious they really were not interested in the reason. [I was stunned and felt ill inwardly as I realized this was the case."
They didn't want to know the reason why. They just wanted the simple answer, Yes or No, so they could run back to the BOE and prepare the noose to hang you. That's what it is all about. That is why we will NEVER meet with these heartless henchmen. We owe them NOTHING, just what they gave us, NOTHING!
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/01/nyregion/stalled-brooklyn-park-exposes-rift-with-religious-group.html
is this true?
has anyone heard of it?
saw it on my facebook.. "jan. 6 bethel update 108 elderly bethelites getting the boot.. brooklyn, ny.
We have some close friends who are considered remote Bethelites. Guess what? They had to BUY THEIR OWN COMPUTERS!
My company provides me with a paycheck, benefits, a cell phone and guess what...a computer. Any they pay me!
How crazy is that? These people not only volunteer their time, give up their life and give donations, they have to pay for it themselves.
I guess the saying is true..."there is a sucker born every minute."
is this true?
has anyone heard of it?
saw it on my facebook.. "jan. 6 bethel update 108 elderly bethelites getting the boot.. brooklyn, ny.
"men with criminal minds who don't give a flying fuck what happens to anybody but themselves"
Flipper, it is funny you mention this. We have 2 uber Elders in our family (very close relatives) that could care less what happens to their family. It's ALL about them!
You are correct, the apple does not fall far from the tree. Or as we say, the NUT doen't fall far from the tree.
is this true?
has anyone heard of it?
saw it on my facebook.. "jan. 6 bethel update 108 elderly bethelites getting the boot.. brooklyn, ny.
Here is a photo from the 2015 yearbook. The photo was the audience attending the annual meeting. I would assume many of the older ones are from bethel. Maybe someone on here knows who gets these front row tickets. Rank and file or Bethelites?
here in the uk new drinking guidelines have been issued which suggest "no more than 14 units a week - equivalent to six pints of beer or seven glasses of wine.".
another piece of the advice which is getting a lot of attention is that "if people drink, it should be moderately over three or more days and that some days should be alcohol-free.".
already people are making cries of "nanny state!
4 months ago i was conducting the watchtower study along with a long list of responsibilities that come with being an elder in a very goofy congregation.
during this time my health was going down hill.
i've always had a low blood pressure,(102/65 or abouts) but for the past year it had creeped up to 135/90 range.. so 2 months ago after learning ttatt, i'm still considered an elder because the brothers won't let me step down, but i haven't done anything in that time except comment once at a meeting a few weeks ago.
Kudos to you ex Elders that walked away from all the stress. It's just not worth it. Take time to enjoy your life and family without the high blood pressure.
I am a female so, of course, no experience in the Elder stress department. I watched my Elder Dad stress and sometimes I could see it all over his face. Most of the stress came from what you all mentioned, what goes on behind closed doors at the Elders meetings and JC's.
Just curious, burnedout, I read your story from 5 years ago. Are you and your family active at all? I hope you escaped, along with your family.
is there a way i can successfully live a double life?
don't get me wrong, i'm not trying to get engaged in activities that are condemnable according to the *bible* (not the *wt*) standards.
i figured that the only way i can get the brothers and sisters to leave me along is by pretending that i am an unemployed drop out.
Great advice from Rebel8.
Personally, I could care less what these JW's think. If you don't want to answer their intrusive questions, tell em it's none of their business. They don't have a problem being forward with you, why should you worry about being forward with them.
If they were truly your friends, you should be able to share your joys, troubles and success with them.