what is the point of supporting a belief which began as a bronze age ox-headed idol called yahweh... in a religion designed for illiterate peasants now appropriated by a money-driven cult with a one hundred and forty six year unbroken record of total failure of its bible based predictions?.
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"Because, regardless of its glaring flaws, it's still the best thing going atm."
Hey...you know you are on an evil apostate site. I guess it's the best apostate site going at the moment. You may want to tell the Elders or better yet, your CO, what site you are one. Just tell em you have glaring flaws and see what they do to you. Good luck (oh dear, I'm going to hell for that one). Oh well, I have glaring flaws as well.
i have a family member that goes nuts with these little things.
i wouldn't be surprised if they have a drawer full of underwear stamped with the logo.. it is completely out of hand.
now i'm not nitpicking here but what is the difference between printing a cross/wearing a cross than wearing a jw.org pin, tie-tack or whatever other logo'd item?
One is a symbol used by Christendom. The other is used by a cult. JW dot org is approved by the GB,the other is not.
It's kind of like dancing and singing in the Kingdom hall/Assembly halls is not right until the GB puts it's stamp of approval on it. Once the GB does that the head bobbing begins and it's the best thing since sliced bread.
HYPOCRITES!
i know this has been talked about to death but this week our loving faithful and discreet slave wrote a letter to all congregations in canada - keep 1500.00 a month in congregation expense account each month for the next three months coverage,(4500.00 in all) 5000.00 for any problems that may arise but send rest into them.
so aren't we lucky to have 9500.00 still left in the account!
the elder reading the letter indicated it was for the kingdom hall building work!!!.
i was at a wedding the summer before i left the jws and i met an old friend.
he had been reinstated for 6 months, he was dfed for 4 years.
so it took him 3 1/2 years before they would let him back in.
in the last few weeks it seems that instead of one or two new posters a week we seem to be getting several every day.
many seem to be long time jw's who are troubled by the path of the organisation.
this is really encouraging to those of us who have been here sometime.. welcome!
We noticed the same thing. Good news!
Lurkers: Keep reading and if you can't leave due to family and friends. Quit donating. VOTE WITH YOUR WALLETS!
If WT wants to take what you love (family and friends) if you leave, take what they love ($$$$).
how often do you, ........ no not that, how often do look at this forum ?
and how long does it last,....... no not that again (one track minds) how many looks are you addicted to a day?
keep coming back to see anything new, or do you look at posters who you know from experience have comments that will interest you?.
warning of a long boring post ahead.
i feel like i need to vent my story out, as i feel quite helpless at the moment.. i'm 31 year old, married, father of toddler with another one on the way, due later this month.
i've been serving as elder for about 4 years now in a south florida congregation.
The above post from iceman is very disturbing. Very passive. "Oh well, elders get things wrong, we disfellowship ones who don't deserve it and sure when children are molested we get things wrong." Oh well, it beats the hell out of you being shunned.
This has to be one of the most disturbing posts I have read to date.
Yes, iceman you are right where you belong. Right back with the JW's. It's guys like you who confirm why so many are leaving! Sick!
something that gets little attention or not enough is the what kind of social behavioral people were the ones who started the watchtower corporation ?
c t russell was someone who got divorced from it would appear a lack of love and attention to his wife and the supposed attention he gave to a younger woman who had lived at his home together with his wife .. j rutherford built a lavish home in sunny and warm san diego and lived with his mistress and personal assistant, separated from his wife.
apparently hoarding and drinking alcohol as well when it was illegal by law to do so.. would either of these men qualify to be even elders in today's standards ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ay5of0nxm44.
Stirred
I agree with you it is nice to see others take care of their family members and show courtesy. I have two VERY good non JW friends. One takes care of her elderly mother and her husbands elderly parents. They also have purchased them VERY nice homes they live in (they are well off). The other (also a non JW) friend has moved to this state but calls her elderly father everyday and flies every few weeks to visit him.
We have family members. One is a CO, it is well known within the family that this CO and his wife do not look after their elderly parent, the congregation does. We have countless examples of JW's that are not looking after their aging parents. It infuriates me!
I guess the point I am trying to make is there are good non JW people that are doing good things and JW's that are not practicing what they preach. The opposite can also be stated. There is good and bad in everything and everywhere. The thing that bothers me is the JW's condemn everyone. The good and the bad. I disagree with them 100% . I have witnessed the opposite.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ay5of0nxm44.
I love the part where the 2 young brothers are looking at the others phone and laughing.
I can just see/hear it now..."Oh...they must not be good marriage mates, they are not listening to the boring meeting." Oh yeah...we shouldn't judge but then the next thing you know they are judging.
I married a man who I guess would not be considered a "spiritual man." Let's see, he's a great father, a great provider, a caring person, he NEVER forgets his family and he's my best friend. We've been together for 30+ years. He just doesn't perform the tasks the JW's require, which does not make him a "spiritual man." I know many a JW husband that perform the tasks (aka spiritual man), that suck as a father, a provider and treat their wife like crap. Go figure!
You just can't make this sh*t up.
