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  I am a proud Jehovah's Witness Defender

  by Matthew Jefferson in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my name is matthew j and i have just ended my study with the jehovah's witnesses.

  no, i did not stop studying because i believe the jehovah's witnesses are a 'cult', i left due to the minor beliefs that i hold that remain separate from the organization.

  i called my elder who is still an amazing man and great counselor, affirming that i do not wish to continue my studying.

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  ToesUp

  "And yet you wont join."
  

  Good point PE.
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  I am a proud Jehovah's Witness Defender

  by Matthew Jefferson in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my name is matthew j and i have just ended my study with the jehovah's witnesses.

  no, i did not stop studying because i believe the jehovah's witnesses are a 'cult', i left due to the minor beliefs that i hold that remain separate from the organization.

  i called my elder who is still an amazing man and great counselor, affirming that i do not wish to continue my studying.

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  ToesUp

  "As seen, it is clear that no, they will not 'shun' me for my leaving the studies"

  Glad you escaped. You should see what your family does to you when you are honest with them and decide to leave the organization. We are experiencing this at this very moment.

  I'm happy for you, I truly am but there are some people on this forum who are experiencing something VERY different and it hurts.
  
  
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  How Would You Help A JW. Recognize They Do Not Have The Truth?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  every witness says they are “ in the truth”.

  that expression implies that what they say is the “truth “.

  how could you help a witness understand that they clearly do not have “the truth “?.

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  ToesUp

  "I think many Witnesses stay in for social reasons. For them there’s no where else to go."
  

  I'm with minimus on this one. Our family sees the abuse and hypocrisy, we just think it is too painful for them to make an exit. The thought of being completely alone in the 60's and 70's is too much to bear. WT is a social club that gives them the warm and fuzzy feeling of belonging somewhere. Without WT, they have NO ONE to tell them how to think, act and believe. They have to let the Panda's, resurrection and hope go out the window!!!
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  Family reunion

  by smiddy3 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my wife and i just enjoyed a family reunion with both my sons ,one wife and one grandchild 10 years old ,where they stayed at our house for a week .. the best week we have had for many a year .

  the couple live only 2 hours away by car and the other son and his child live 2 states away 2 hours by plane.. and thankfully they are no longer associated with the borg that i now regretfully brought them up in , so the borg will never get their children.. it was a happyfying time .

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  WONDERFUL!!!! We are soooo happy for you!!
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  report from vomitville and financials

  by jonahstourguide in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i attended a circuit arsesemblancey today.

  melbourne, melton arsembley hall.

  western suburbs area.. 1. re hearing negative reports in the media about jws.

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  ToesUp

  Yep....everything about JW's is a lie, now give us your MONEY!!!
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  Discontinue unproductive bible study - jw broadcasting

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://tv.jw.org/#en/mediaitems/latestvideos/pub-ism_2_video.

  interesting video explaining how to end a bible study.. watch the kind of uber behaviour of the witnesses: make a choice or we leave.... so hard, so not christian.

  no love for the person.. g..

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  Actually, this shows how cold and heartless the WT and their little minions can be. KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK WT!!!
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  How Would You Help A JW. Recognize They Do Not Have The Truth?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  every witness says they are “ in the truth”.

  that expression implies that what they say is the “truth “.

  how could you help a witness understand that they clearly do not have “the truth “?.

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  ToesUp

  We tried. You can't. They have to come to their own conclusion.

  We don't really discuss it with family anymore, it does not go well. Now, if anything is brought up, we may just make small comments like, "well, that wasn't very loving or that wasn't a very Christian thing to do." They don't say much. Everything is "Satan this and Satan that." It's just not worth the frustration anymore.
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  Discontinue unproductive bible study - jw broadcasting

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://tv.jw.org/#en/mediaitems/latestvideos/pub-ism_2_video.

  interesting video explaining how to end a bible study.. watch the kind of uber behaviour of the witnesses: make a choice or we leave.... so hard, so not christian.

  no love for the person.. g..

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  ToesUp

  There is one thing JW's are really good at....dumping people. Bottom line, you don't do the tasks that WT outlines, they no longer want you in their Good old Boys Club. It's how cults work!!!
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  Another Repetitive JW Public Talk: What's the Kingdom Doing For Us Now?

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this young fool (who is probably a born-in ) is no older than 35 years of age.

  i started attending meetings before he was even born.

  little does he know that you and i and millions of others have listened to this same themed talk, ''what's the kingdom doing for us now,'' in 1972. .

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  ToesUp

  His Mom & Dad are probably sitting in the audience gleaming at how proud that they are that their son is such a "spiritual man." lol

  He looks good but what's inside? It makes me wonder.

  Remember what Tony Morris said about his boys, in his interview, "they make US look good." That's what it's all about, looking good and "spiritual." Whitewashed graves full of dead mens bones.

  As far as the message he is speaking about, wash, rinse, repeat.
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  "This system will probably be over in about 5 years"

  by john.prestor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i don't think i shared this story yet, it's strange and although i did a little detective work trying to figure out who said what and when i never found out much, big surprise, jehovah's witnesses love their secrets as we all know... but i thought other posters might find this interesting both in and of itself, because of what an elder told me one sunday back in 2011, and because of what it could imply as to high-ranking jehovah's witnesses prophesying the date of armageddon.

  specific dates went out the window in 1975, although governing body helper ken flodin hinted at 2040 in a talk uploaded to jw.org a couple years back, and the governing body hinted at 2034 in a watchtower back in the 90s.

  but it might be, just might, that more specific date-setting still goes on behind closed doors in certain circuits.... so after i went to "meetings" and talked to witnesses for a couple years at a rural congregation in the eastern united states an elder pulled me aside one service into the vestibule at the hall, in other words, into a private area where no one would overhear us.

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  ToesUp

  WT wrote an article in 1969 that told our family members that they would not even finish their education. Those family members are now in their late sixties to early seventies. Guess what? They have NO education, no money and no retirement plan. They are working low wage, hard labor jobs. Deep down inside we know that they are scratching their heads. They won't admit it.

  My spouse and I are at the point that we would rather live here and now than spend eternity with the JW nutters. Just my 2 cents.