I used to drink like a fish after the meetings.
I still enjoy my wine but now I enjoy it because I can have it not because I NEED it. Life IS GOOD!!!!
Posts by ToesUp
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32WHAT IS YOUR "AFTER MEETING RITUAL? "
by brandnew inme ?
my after meeting ritual, is getting my suit off, and a beer in my hand....in less than 2 minutes from entering my door.
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Seeking support during confusing and stressful 'cognitive dissonance'
by LHS123 insorry for the long post but i need help.
ive been a jw for 20 years - still active and attending meetings, baptised at 18, i have recently become very dissillusioned.
a few reasons: ill treatment of my kids by a prominent 'assembly speaker' elder, then my son left the truth at 15 (not baptised) and was 'dropped' instantly, despite this community having been his whole life for 15 years.
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ToesUp
Welcome LHS123. What you are going through is something we all experienced here. It is overwhelming. We have been out for 2+ years. It get's better everyday.
The best advise I can give you is take one day at a time and don't rush things. DON'T and I mean DON'T trust anyone JW with what you know. Most will go to the Elders, thinking that they are helping you (snatching you from the fire). This is a mistake. If you need to vent, come on here and communicate with us. We have all had different journeys but the ultimate outcome has been the same. Escape (mentally and physically)!
Don't let your daughter get baptized. She is too young and now that you know what you know (TTATT), you have to do your best to get her out too.
This is a lot to deal with but keep researching and reading old posts. It's amazing the things we have learned over the years. The hypocrisy and double standards are unbelievable. We left due to the lack of love, hypocrisy and abuse of members/family. Once we left we learned TTATT. There is no turning back and we will never return.
We also observed the abuse some of the Elders laid upon one of our children. It's no wonder the JW youth decide to jump ship once they turn 18 (or sooner).
Do not write off non JW's. There are some very nice/kind people out there. They are not all wicked and unloving. We have been taught all our lives that anything non JW is a wicked sin. The only wicked sin I ever committed was raising my children in an unloving cult.
If you haven't read Crisis of Conscience by Ray Franz, I would suggest you do so. It's an eye opener.
We are all here for you. Never stop learning and researching. You will be amazed at what you find!
Keep us posted on your progress.
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Elders' Authority - Flock Book
by berrygerry inthe biggest surprise in the flock book was the hiding-for 3-years serious sin absolution provision for elders (if with "jehovah's evident blessing").. the second is the remark regarding an inactive person, and the situation:.
"is the person willing to meet with a committee, thus admitting accountability to the christian congregation?".
now, the bible says: i want you to know that the head of every man is the christ; in turn the head of a woman is the man; in turn the head of the christ is god.
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ToesUp
"Jehovahs name can be kept out of this very dirty situation."
Wow....this is ALL they care about. Who care's about the minors involved? Not them! Let's sweep it under the rug and forget about it. Not one mention in that letter about the children or families involved or warning the Congregation about a Pedo in their midst.
Everyday I read or hear something so unbelieveable that I think, "I'm am so happy to be out of this cult disguised as a religion." This letter is beyond disgusting and is my additional confirmation today that I am glad to be FREE (along with my immediate family)!
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"Jehovah's people as a whole can never be corrupted..."
by cappytan inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zgds4z-h2i.
transcript below (with key points of interest bolded):.
please open your bibles to phil.
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ToesUp
It looks like a lot of JW's are leaving due to hurt feelings and lack of love! This is a good thing. If it wasn't happening, they would not be discussing it.
There is also a scripture that says that love would be the identifying mark of a true Christian. Funny...they did not mention that scripture.
Hmmm!
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Three elders show up "to encourage me" after 10 years!
by Wasanelder Once in"hey brother wasa, come on back to the meetings.
" (after 10 years) so i respond that the situation with pedophiles is out of hand.
they tell me "we" elders have received tons of training on the subject, its not like it was 10 years ago.
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ToesUp
Anything you say CAN and WILL be used against you.
Silence is the best answer. Don't give them the power!
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I'm my favorite type of JW - Double Life
by thedepressedsoul inthe borg's tactics on most jw work.
they put fear into their mind, they guilt trip them and basically make them scared to do anything when they are away from the kingdom hall.
it allows them to control every aspect of their life.
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ToesUp
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Three elders show up "to encourage me" after 10 years!
by Wasanelder Once in"hey brother wasa, come on back to the meetings.
" (after 10 years) so i respond that the situation with pedophiles is out of hand.
they tell me "we" elders have received tons of training on the subject, its not like it was 10 years ago.
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ToesUp
What Searcher said:
"Thank you for your concern, but there's nothing I want to talk about at the moment. If things change, I'll let you know."
I wouldn't give them ANYTHING. Once you say something (anything) you now give them the power to dig or go further with you. I would give them NOTHING. They NEVER gave us anything when we were "in". Just returning the favor.
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Wife fully awake.
by cappytan ini learned this past week that my wife is now awake.
i just shared the pbs newshour segment with her with no comment other than something along the lines of, "jw story on pbs.".
she is furious at the arrogance of these men.. thats what happens when you get a momma angry!.
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ToesUp
Cappytan...Oh...that crazy time report! They call us for those too. The Elders are afraid of the CO ripping them a new one and wanting them to shepherd the flock. I think the #'s are declining faster than they want to admit. They ARE worried! I'm so happified!
Good news about your wife!
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"Your bad attitude is evident, because you don't bring a meeting bag to the meetings anymore!"
by stuckinarut2 inyes friends.....this is the comment said to me by an elder!.
"your bad attitude is evident because you don't bring your meeting bag anymore!".
i calmly replied: "but everything i need is on the tablet now......".
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ToesUp
You'll NEVER be able to do anything right in this cult. That's just the way it is. Just give us your money, time and complete obedience. STFU and you'll be fine! Oh...and you have the "privilege" of cleaning the Kingdom Hall too.
Sorry you are stuck in this. No one should have to put up with that crap.
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Quote where the WT said leave the research to us?
by notsurewheretogo inhas anyone got the quote from the societies publication where they advise to leave the research to them?.
i know in the september 2007 km they warned about independent study groups but i'm sure there was a quote from the 50's or 60's where they told the rank publisher to leave the research to the gb?.
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ToesUp
"This organization has never disappointed us."
Really? This is the main reason we left, DISAPPOINTMENT. That's the only thing this cult is good at. Then we learned TTATT and now we are free!