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  Just lost one more friend

  by paradisebeauty in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i used to talk weekly on skype, with a sister from another country.

  i didn't tell her much about my research and change of beliefs, until today ... in the conversations some doctrines came up and i told her i don't believe 1914, first, then i went on to tell her that i also don't believe there are 2 classes of christians, that i did not believe the government of the kingdom will be in heaven while the kingdom en earth, that i believe the whole kingdom will be on earth, and that from what i read, jesus was pretty clear that he will come back to earth, visibly.

  the "god always had an organization" dogma was dropped and i told her it is not true, out of 9000 years of human history, it's not sure there were 1000 years when god had a loyal organization ..... i did not plan to tell her all this things, but it just happened, and things came up in the conversation... and once i dropped one bomb i dropped them all .... she said i do not sound like i am one of the jehovah's witnesses any more ... and even though we ended the call with "see ya" i have the feeling i will not hear from her any more ... .

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  paradisebeauty

  It is sad. Very sad. To loose a friend is painful. Unfortunately, she was not really your friend. Friends give you unconditional love.

  I have several "friends" that do not know that I no longer attend or believe in the JW belief system. I have tried to prepare myself for the day when they are aware of this. I am sure that I will cry a few tears and I will feel awful that I lost them but I will realize that they really were not my friends if they no longer want me around. I was fully aware of this fact before I made me exit. My spouse and I went through the "what if's" before we left.

  Hang in there. Hugs to you!
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  The Heartless JW

  by babygirl30 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  soooo...i have recently been diagnosed with an autoimmune disease, and am scared out of my mind.

  in a weak moment, i called my parents and my mom answered.

  i start crying as i tell her about my disease, and this woman says to me:.

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  babygirl

  Sometimes love and support can come from the people we least expect. Embrace the ones who show you love and allow you to express your love back to them. Pardon the bluntness but...screw the ones who can't show or give you the love.

  So glad to hear you are doing better. Like someone said take it day by day and remove the poisonous/toxic people from your life. They don't deserve you!!!

  More hugs your way!!!
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  Congregation advertising on FB

  by _Morpheus in

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  I think they need a local needs talk. Her skirt is a bit tight! Can someone volunteer to give that talk? The need is great! And you can take a selfie!
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  The Heartless JW

  by babygirl30 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  soooo...i have recently been diagnosed with an autoimmune disease, and am scared out of my mind.

  in a weak moment, i called my parents and my mom answered.

  i start crying as i tell her about my disease, and this woman says to me:.

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  babygirl30

  This is NOT your fault. Don't blame yourself. Your mother doesn't deserve you. Everyone needs and deserves love, especially from our parents. Hang in there!
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  The Heartless JW

  by babygirl30 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  soooo...i have recently been diagnosed with an autoimmune disease, and am scared out of my mind.

  in a weak moment, i called my parents and my mom answered.

  i start crying as i tell her about my disease, and this woman says to me:.

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  babygirl30

  I am so sorry you have been ill. It saddens my heart to know your own Mom treats you that way. This is so unnatural. I can't imagine ever turning my back on my kids.

  Take good care of yourself, you deserve it. Like LisaRose said, take it one day at a time. Come on here anytime to talk to ones who understand how cold and insensitive this cult is. There are a lot of good people on here.

  Hugs to you!
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  Suicide Prevention Counseling

  by MrCellophane in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  in the 1980's when i was an elder, i don't remember the society providing any guidance to elders on suicide prevention counseling.

  i realize much has changed since then.

  can any current/recent elders update me on what the current position of the local elders would be if approached by someone in the congregation contemplating suicide and seeking help?.

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  I love how they end all their videos

  ....and they lived happily ever after.

  Except for all the "weak ones." They will be miserable until they return to Jehovah.
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  Uber Bethelites in Brazil

  by Lynnie in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so i see my uber cousins from bethel are flying around the world again, this time in brazil to instruct the brothers on construction purchases in central and south america!

  lots of pics with them partying with locals and being wined and dined, something the rank and file will never know!

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  Tons of uber dubs surviving off the backs of the clueless rank and file. The only thing that makes us smile is, they will NEVER get another cent of our money!

  VOTE WITH YOUR WALLETS!!!
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  BBC interview about 1975 - never heard this before..

  by defender of truth in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for any lurkers who don't believe the watchtower taught that the world would end in 1975... rare jehovah's witnesses 1968 interview "armageddon and 1975" london watchtower rep speaks to bbc.

  http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=npmt-ml-m-g. --------.

  but where will this system of things be by that time?

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  Remember...it's NOT lying it's "theocratic warfare." lol
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  If Someone Touches Woman’s Breast and Covers it up…

  by John Aquila in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  one of the elders schools i attended, we dealt with a person who touched a girls breast and covered it up and kept it secret until it was revealed through a source.

  the instructor first laid the ground work for a guilt trip.

  he read this scripture;.

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  Okay? So a brother touches a sisters breast, an Elder finds out about it and doesn't say anything? So let me get this straight! An Elder who covers this up is a Sinner but when a child is molested, it's not the Elders job to report it to the authorities? Oh my God I am so glad we are OUT of this bats*** crazy cult!!!
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  Today's JWs

  by jws in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i posted earlier in the year that one of my son's friends is a jw.

  he can never do anything on wednesdays because it's a meeting night.

  same for sunday early afternoons.

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  This is a good question. I think the answer to the question has a lot to do with WHO you are!

  If Daddy is a "spiritual man"....i.e. Daddy does enough tasks in the Congregation! We watched several families allow their children to participate in all kinds of extracurricular activities in school. As long as everything "looks good." You know...the kids go out in service and get the national average in. Maybe even pioneer once a year. We have watched these little spiritual princes and princesses shine on the Convention stage during an interview asking how they maintained their integrity while at school. In the meantime, these cutey pies are applying to college, playing sports at school and performing in the marching band. What a hypocritical lot these people are!

  When we were growing up we had the "School Brochure". We were not allowed to attend college, play sports or be involved in any extracurricular activities.

  My how times have changed!