Posts by ToesUp

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"High" education

by Esmeralda001 in

did any of you guys disregard the wt recommendations and pursue a career.

if you answer "yes": was your journey easy?

are you happy with the end result?

We have several in our family that are now into their late 60's. They are still working hard physically. They have no retirement and are paying the high cost of medical insurance due to being self employed. These were the ones that were told (via JW literature) back in 1969 that they would not need education because the end was sooo close. These ones chose to pioneer. Are they resentful? Yes they are. We hear it all of the time. They are now encouraging us to get our children educated so they can support themselves.

What really stands out with the Governing Body is how they discourage ones from higher education and then in the next breath they are asking for anyone with degrees (lawyers, accountants, medical, engineering, construction, etc) to volunteer on construction projects, etc. Come on...this is the highest form of hypocrisy there is!

The explanation we have received on this one is. If it is for "kingdom interests" then the higher education is ok. In other words, if it can benefit ($$$$) the WT, it is ok to do. That mindset seems to be a pattern. If it benefits the org it's ok. Really?

HYPOCRITES!!!!

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"High" education

by Esmeralda001 in

did any of you guys disregard the wt recommendations and pursue a career.

if you answer "yes": was your journey easy?

are you happy with the end result?

ToesUp

Oh, one more thing. Don't tell ANYONE how hard and draining school is. The JW's just seem to thrive on other peoples misery. Just tell them everything is going fine or great. They want to be all up in your business. Don't fall for it.

If you want to share how hard your studies are, come on here and vent. Most on here have been where you are and you will receive more encouragement that you will at the Kingdom Hall.

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"High" education

by Esmeralda001 in

did any of you guys disregard the wt recommendations and pursue a career.

if you answer "yes": was your journey easy?

are you happy with the end result?

ToesUp

Esmeralda

"There is one particular lady who hates me for this though."

She doesn't really hate you, she's jealous. In reality she would love to do what you are doing. If she's married to a well off man, then she doesn't understand your plight.

My advice...go for it and do well. That is what get's to them and that's how you "stick it to them." lol

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Wilmington Delaware Media report in another Topic

by truthlover in

sexual abuse by a female member of a 14 year old in the congregation and elders being sued by the county --- now that co's are liable for the elders only - does that mean the elders will lose everything if fines are levelled against them, since the society has washed their hands and separated themselves by setting the co in place??

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ToesUp

I wouldn't want to be an Elder. The liability is incredible!

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How much of a " free-spirit" are you?

by The Rebel in

jw
friends

i think every one wants to be a " free- spirit", but what does that really mean?.

i ask the question because :-.

a) i decided i would not give the religiouse organisation i belonged to the power to force me to rebel within its organisation, when the " free-spirit" inside me no longer wanted to be controlled by this religion.. b) i now realise the " free-spirit" within me that demanded independence from w.t control has also come with great consequences, which has now made the price of my liberation seem shallow.. anyway i am not well educated, but i do now appreciate the psychological and emotional consequences my actions have had on my family, and friends.

ToesUp

100% and proud of it!!!!

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Changes to reporting

by Formerbrother in

so it seems placing literature is not so important anymore, now that we live in a digital age.. we are being pushed to show videos instead.

this is the new reporting from next month, just hrs and any literature placed in one box and then how many videos you showed in another box.. bib changes for sure..

ToesUp

Just another way to measure ones "spirituality." Sad.

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Changes and why

by Formerbrother in

so far these are all the recent changes i know of, please add more if i have missed anything.. 1. all construction projects have either been stopped or reduced.. 2. all bethels are downsizing by at least 20% within one year of the announcement, and almost certainly more in years to come.. 3. remaining belelites will have to make their own food, do their own washing and cleaning.. no more laundry department, no more kitchen and waiters, no more housekeeping!.

and you still only get 80 per month, but no rent or bills, and food will be provided in the family fridge but you have to prepare it yourself.. as to why, it has been said several times officially its not because of a lack of funds, but how could that possibly be the truth?.

ToesUp

Per Tony Morris in his U.S. Zone meeting talk, addressing over 1.1 million JW's:

Sister's were warned that a male (brother), age 23 or older. Not currently serving as an MS or Elder. Would NOT make a suitable marriage mate.

So, any brother's over the age of 23 and not a servant, would now be viewed in the congregation in a negative light. Even if he is a nice humble brother, unless he is serving, he is a nothing to the org.

Since this talk, there has been no changes made to Tony's comment. It has become a new policy. This was done to use guilt and peer pressure to get more brother's to reach out!

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Sundays without the indoctrination session...

by Tornintwo in

jw
friends

what are you doing instead of the meeting?.

i'm ordering cool personalised pressies for all of my non jw family online, whilst listening to some great 80's classics (currently fade to grey, visage).

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ToesUp

Got up. I was a lazy person and didn't even make the bed. Went for a long walk with my best friend and spouse. Went for a nice lunch. Went to the store and my spouse is watching football on the big screen.

No guilt , no judgement, just a beautiful day!

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Awesome New Books on JW's, MUST READ!

by johnny depp in

hey, i just thought i let you guys know about these two books i read:jehovah's witnesses, what lies behind the truththe watchtower society, organizational misbehaviorboth books by gabriel h ibarra.

awesome!

ToesUp

He needs to offer a inexpensive electronic version. If he wants his message to get out to a wide audience.

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JW Sites?

by EternalPettingZoo in

long time lurker who just created an account.

i was raised a witness, never dunked, have new jw bride ( why u ask?

um... i do love her, just not the dub side, which is raising its little head more and more now) and a little 5 month old that i would like to have other options in life than a full time pioneer married to a 23 year old ms who works for his daddy's janitor business.

ToesUp

If you Google Jehovah Witness you will find several news media articles and documentaries regarding the religion (I mean cult). Also, there is plenty of info (not apostate) regarding the Australian Royal Commission.

I know what you mean Tony Morris did a number on us too. It really had an impact (the 23 yr. old MS thing) on my spouse. We had started our fade about 3 years ago but that talk put the nail in the coffin. Hopefully we have our kids out too (for good, we hope).

The frustrating thing is that you could have Jesus himself come down and tell everyone that this is a crock of sh*t and they would just continue on like the good little robots should.

Be careful with your wife, she sounds full in and may let someone know you are having "apostate thoughts." They think they are doing what is best for you and then the Elders start poking around.

Take it slow.