Posts by ToesUp

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Time to Spill my Guts

by Hadriel in

been lurking around here for several weeks.

posted once or twice but not too much.

i'm a covert fade at the moment.

Take it slow. Don't react too quick. Unfortunately, there is no easy way to exit this religion. We go back and forth on just pulling the band aid off and telling our family (they all live in different cities, so it makes it a little easier). We have not done that yet but we think our families are suspicious. You are correct, sometime it does feel like wearing wet clothes. Good description.

Angus Stewart said it correctly during the Australian Royal commission, "the WT is a captive organization." It uses all your friends and family to keep you captive to them. I think there are a lot of people starting to wake up. The dominos could be beginning to fall. Next years Yearbook #'s will be interesting.

Keep us posted on your progress. We have all been and some are still exactly where you are at. It's disheartening to find out that everything you ever believed in was a lie.

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My Bethel Experience Part 2 Memory Lane

by new boy in

back to the food..........the saying there was "its the best food in the world before they cook it" the coffee was the really bad.

they would take a 55 lb.

bag of good coffee beans and boil the shit out of it.the joke was if anyone could find the guy that made the coffee, and kill him, our production would go up and armageddon could finally come.

ToesUp

new boy....looking forward to Part 3. My spouse and I are enjoying your Bethel experiences.

What sums it up for us (fading...haven't been to a meeting, etc. for almost 3 years) is what the guy leaving after 4 years said to you. "They don't give a shit about you here"........" That is exactly why we left 3 years ago. This is the exact statement I made to my spouse. We are 100%++++++ happier out then we were in.

How you put up with that old Bat, I don't know. I would have lasted 5 seconds at Bethel. I would have but the chicken backs where the sun don't shine.

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Lyman Swingle (GB) told me what would bring down the Organization!

by new boy in

it was about 15 years ago.......... i was at a one day special event in woodburn or.

i was talking to lyman swingle about how the society could save some money.

it was a crazy idea ( to crazy to relate here)...............anyway he laughed and said to me.. "brother..........we have always had the money to do the things we needed to do.......and if we didn't.......we felt it was god's holy spirit telling us, it wasn't what we should be doing".......so...i said "so the money is like a barometer, no approval, no money"......he said "yea..... i guess you could say that!

ToesUp

Very ironic

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2015-12-28--Insurance!

by Atlantis in

2015-12-28 liability insuranceclick the green download button.http://fileflyer.com/view/mazfoac.wtunderground!

(if fileflyer locks up this time i will just have to find another hosting site.

)

ToesUp

I remember going through greeting cards at the store, looking for cards that DID NOT say best wishes. This was a no no. My....how things have changed. We even saw, dancing, singing and performing at the Kingdom Halls and Assembly halls, just about a year and a half ago. Full bands! We couldn't even play a recording of a "worldly song" at our wedding in the 80's. Things that make ya go ....Hmmm!

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Blood Cards on File with the Elders?

by EyesOpenHeartBroken in

i have a question for elders here or recent elders.

were the elders, in the last 10 years, given instruction to keep a copy of every publishers blood card on file at the kh?.

we moved to our current cong 6 years ago, and shortly after we moved in, the boe requested everyone update and give a copy of card to the kh.

ToesUp

Our Elders were too lazy to make copies of the blood cards and keep them on file.

I shredded mine!

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Chapter 1 My Bethel Experience First Posted 9 Years Ago A Walk Down Memory Lane

by new boy in

part 1. i when to bethel march 21,1970. at the time you had to be a pioneer for two years to apply, by the time i left in 1974 they were calling people in who had never pioneered..........average stay was 5 months (they had signed up for 4 years)..........the reason they left was......well, it was hell.. one of the reasons was, knorr hated bethelites, but he loved the gilead students and why?

because when they screwed up they were thousands of miles away!........just before i got there, they had kicked out over 30!

homosexuals (at one time) ....the would kick out 1-2 bethelites a week.

ToesUp

"Gary will DIE at armageddon because he doesn't do what I tell him to do".

This is the JW attitude. They should put that one on a plaque and make it the text for the year. They love this one. Oh...can you feel the love!

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Is the Pioneer School being eliminated?

by wannaexit in

jw
friends

i heard from the semi reliable source that the pioneer schools will go the way of the dodo bird next year.. i could see this happening.

it used to be that you went to the the pioneer school once.

then they allowed dubs to go every 5 years.

ToesUp

Oh boy, if that is true, what will all the "special" JW's do? No titles? How will they be "special?" They gotta have bragging rights or whats the point of going on? Maybe more prescription meds will help!

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New York Times article Dec 31 2015

by Gayle in

jw
friends

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/01/nyregion/stalled-brooklyn-park-exposes-rift-with-religious-group.html?_r=0.

jehovahs witnesses have been criticized by community leaders for not fixing up parks in dumbo, brooklyn, as promised.

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ToesUp

"In any event, with those volunteers busy in Warwick, the group was looking into making a financial contribution to finish the project, Mr. Devine, the spokesman, said. “We realized that we were stretched,” he said."

Interesting comment by Mr. Devine. Are they "stretched" financially or did he mean "stretched" for volunteers to do the job, since they are busy at Warwick? Maybe both?

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New York Times article Dec 31 2015

by Gayle in

jw
friends

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/01/nyregion/stalled-brooklyn-park-exposes-rift-with-religious-group.html?_r=0.

jehovahs witnesses have been criticized by community leaders for not fixing up parks in dumbo, brooklyn, as promised.

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ToesUp

What a great witness to the community. lol

"The parks controversy seems to have exposed a long-simmering resentment of the Jehovah’s Witnesses, also known as the Watchtower, for planning to leave a city that has enriched the religious group exponentially, community leaders say, yet to which it has given little in return."

'Giving little in return." We on this forum can back that statement up. The WT gives nothing, it only takes. Ask all the Bethelites who are being "sent into the field."

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JT blog radio: Jehovah's Witnesses - The Only True Religion?

by darth frosty in

this is the title of tomorrows show.

it starts at 10 am but can be listened to any time after that.. .

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/nofog/2010/09/11/jehovahs-witnesses--the-only-true-religion.

ToesUp

Part 2 was very interesting. It was really worth listening to. Especially the part on how brothers went to jail unnecessarily for not going into the military. He really explained it well, how the WT changed their stance (more new light) on doing a civil service job versus going to jail. Then the WT blames it on the brothers strong conscience for making that decision. Really? The long term damage the WT has done to so many families is just incredible.