Posts by ToesUp
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Is the Watchtower organisation facing the biggest crisis of its history?
by slimboyfat inrecent developments make me think they might be.
the problems they are facing are not just lack of funds but also draining authority, and the two could be a heady and explosive mix.
one of the best analyses ever written of the watchtower was a book called "trumpet of prophecy" by sociologist james beckford in the 1970s.
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ToesUp
Oh...I hope you are right. I go back and forth on this issue also. Time will tell...soon, I hope. -
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Who thinks Wt is going to throw Vincent Tool under the bus if he loses his law registration.
by joe134cd injust read speculation about this on another thread.
who thinks vincent tool, if looses his law license and becomes less useful to wt that he will then be reassigned to the field.
or is he just to big of a player to lose even with out a practicing law license.
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ToesUp
Anders Andersen
There is some good info on Greenlees/Chitty on JW Facts. Notice when the announcement was made, it was clearly stated that when Greenlees was no longer a member of the Bethel family, the matter was closed. These 2 were shipped off (to the field) never to come up in topic again. How Convenient. I wonder how much WT paid these 2 to keep their mouths shut?
phttp://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/directed-by-holy-spirit.php
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Women in this Org are looking for a Father Figure
by xjwsrock inthis is a rant mainly in response to my wife's reaction to the stupid clam meeting last night.
bear in mind, while i am not sexist, i am also not politically correct.
.... it is no secret that the women in this organization outnumber the men.
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ToesUp
"Or maybe that's a part of why you were able to wake up - you don't need it."
Good point OneEyedJoe.
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Who thinks Wt is going to throw Vincent Tool under the bus if he loses his law registration.
by joe134cd injust read speculation about this on another thread.
who thinks vincent tool, if looses his law license and becomes less useful to wt that he will then be reassigned to the field.
or is he just to big of a player to lose even with out a practicing law license.
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ToesUp
Anders Andersen
If you are fresh out, I suggest you read Ray Franz's book Crisis of Conscience. It's an eye opener. We learned quite a bit about our not so perfect organization.
Google the names, interesting info.
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Elder continues serving as elder after his daughter got disfellowshipped!
by hardtobeme inthis is what is happening in a spanish congregation in our area.
this happened 3 weeks ago.
this brother conducted the school and after the school was over, another elder gave the announcement: "( name of the person) is not longer a jehovah's witness".
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ToesUp
Yes they are strapped for "men."
We had an Elder that had his kids in college and their was a lot of "talking" going on the the hall about this. The Elders knew there was a lot of talking going on. Many in the congregation were very stumbled by him having his children in college. BUT...you see this particular Elder did MUCH in the congregation. Sometimes he would practically run the entire mid week meeting. Let's face it, the Elders don't want to have to carry the whole meeting, some just want to do the bare minimum (can you blame them). When you get an Elder that is more than willing to "do the job", you'll make concessions for him, right?
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Who thinks Wt is going to throw Vincent Tool under the bus if he loses his law registration.
by joe134cd injust read speculation about this on another thread.
who thinks vincent tool, if looses his law license and becomes less useful to wt that he will then be reassigned to the field.
or is he just to big of a player to lose even with out a practicing law license.
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ToesUp
It depends on how many skeletons that Mr. Toole knows about in the WT closet. They protect the ones or hide them (Chitty/Greenlees) away that know too much! The trouble makers get the ax (Ray Franz). Just my 2 cents. -
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Women in this Org are looking for a Father Figure
by xjwsrock inthis is a rant mainly in response to my wife's reaction to the stupid clam meeting last night.
bear in mind, while i am not sexist, i am also not politically correct.
.... it is no secret that the women in this organization outnumber the men.
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ToesUp
"She wants the org to tell her what to do."
We see this exact thing in our family. The women (our experience only/family) have the personality that really don't want to put much effort into anything. If we want to them to put effort into it, we have to reason with them why to do it and even assist them in doing it. They need a lot of prodding. The JW religion works great for them, it does everything for you and tells you what to do and when to do it. No critical thinking involved. It's perfect for them.
You know the story about the little engine that said, "I think I can, I think I can." These women say, "I think I can't, I think I can't." Yikes....so frustrating!
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My Bethel Experience Part 6 with new info.
by new boy ini 'm sorry all of this is not in order.
i'm writing as all this comes back to me.. .
my first room assignment was room 33 in the 129 building.
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ToesUp
Sounds like a real priveledge to serve at Bethel.
The morale of the story...""They really didn't give a shit about us."
Enjoying reading these.
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Two JDubs just knocked on my door !
by Phizzy inthe exclamation mark in the title above is because i was surprised, as i know that i am a "do not call", but this was what i presume were now two elders,(i have not been told their present status), so they reckon they are equipped to handle me, lol.
it was a friendly chat, as i knew the guys for decades.. during the course of our chat i was able to lead them towards jwfacts.com, i did this by a circuitous route which i will not bore you with, but right at the end i said that bro russell had said no matter what the source of truth was, it was still truth.. i am hoping they do not fear going to the site, i also pointed out that paul grundy says if anything is wrong on his site, e-mail him and he will correct it.. i did get a couple of digs in, said the gb were now like rock stars, one guy said "i don't think they would like you calling them that", so i said " o.k, tv evangelists then".
he had no reply to that barb !.
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ToesUp
We had two at our door a couple of days ago. What part of "leave us the hell alone" do they not understand. I guess desperate times ($$$$) call for desperate measures. Too bad some of these JW's didn't think of how they were treating people WHILE these ones were still in. They think of them when they need #'s, field serve us time or the almighty dollar.
What goes around comes around.
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January jw-tv broadcast with Lett
by bohm inlett is back with a vengance!.
* the last money-begging effort increased donations by 15% for two months; a letter by a 13 year old who donated is read out loud.
* since last may "so many good things have happened".
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ToesUp
Mr. Mark. - If your intention on this site is to help Ex JW's return to Jehovah. Perhaps you should review the way you as a Christian need to treat people. Please review the Return to Jehovah brochure page 14.
HOW WILL THE CONGREGATION RECEIVE ME? You can be sure that members of the congregation will warmly welcome you. Rather than criticize or judge you, they will confirm their love for you and do whatever they can to encourage you.—Hebrews 10:24, 25. (Here is scripture you can look up too!)
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